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= May 8 =

Singolar Request, thanks!
Hello. It is customary nowadays that in European football (soccer) championships, the winning team is presented with the Cup with ribbons in the social colours of the team itself, or flag of the country the national team represents. If at the 1996 English Europeans, the Czech Republic had won against Germany, having three colours on their flag, would the ribbons have been tricolour or simply two, given the fact that the Czechs' uniform that year was red for the jersey and white for the shorts? I say this, because when the Queen handed the cup to Jürgen Klinsmann, the ribbons were black and white and not the colours of the German flag, which was also three-coloured. So even if the Czech team had won, it would not have been 'inspired' by the flag but by the uniforms? Because today it is different; the ribbons are in the colours of the flags of the countries, as it should be. Thank you. 93.41.96.86 (talk) 17:01, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * We don't know. Nanonic (talk) 18:09, 8 May 2023 (UTC)


 * [Edit Conflict] The only people who could answer your question with certainty would be officials who were involved in the preparations at the game itself, and it's not likely any of them are reading here, or recorded such a minor detail in writing, or are now identifiable and contactable 27 years later.
 * That said, since both countries involved had tricolour flags, and since the ribbons used were only two colours and based on the winning team's uniform, I cannot see any reason why the ribbons used for the Czech team, had they won, would not have also been two colours, i.e. red and white. This is so obvious that I doubt if anyone will be prepared to try to find almost-certainly nonexistent evidence to the contrary.
 * Incidentally, since both team strips used white, this would have meant that the white ribbon could be tied on in advance, and only the black (or, potentially, red) ribbon would have had to await the result, saving a little time in the preparations for the presentation.
 * A related question that might be answerable is when the ribbons were changed from being strip-based to national flag based. There's certainly no mention in our article UEFA European Championship, but you could try looking at all the photos on the website https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/history/seasons/ (there seems to be an article on each final, each with multiple photos) and see if you can work it out. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.213.18.208 (talk) 18:32, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

The photos of the trophy ceremony from Euro 2000 (the next such tournament) suggests that organisers can handle three colours of ribbon. --Dweller (talk) Old fashioned is the new thing! 08:08, 9 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Since the 1996 trophy was decorated with a bicolour ribbon (black and white), not being the German tricolour (black–red–yellow), 2000 is apparently the first year in which the switch took effect. --Lambiam 10:23, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * But there might not have been a single switch: the practice might have had a more complex pattern of changes back and forth. The OP might wish to peruse the entire photographic record. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.199.210.77 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 09:41, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Time-Date-City wristwatch
Has there ever been wristwatches that tell the time, as well as the date in cities worldwide? 86.130.77.121 (talk) 22:07, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * They're called World Time wristwatches, invented by Louis Cottier in 1931 for the time. A Frédérique Constant timepiece also shows the day of the month (though apparently just in your time zone), but not the month itself. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:34, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Just as a side note, a number of Patek Philippe watches of this type are on the List of most expensive watches sold at auction. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:39, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * In the Chucklevision episode Market Forces, Paul got a wristwatch that tells the time & date in 12 cities at the same time. And when Barry asked when did he get it, he said "A week next Thursday". Funny, strange or silly, whenever Barry asked what time it was and what day it was, Paul would say the month rather than the number or day (e.g. Hour: 20-past June. Day: January), and Barry does not say "What do you mean, 20-past June?" nor "I said day, not month." When today was actually Saturday, Paul's watch said Friday, which is one of the days the markets open, only the markets were empty today. So maybe it was only Friday in Tokoyo. See the episode on Youtube. 86.130.77.121 (talk) 20:29, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Many smartwatches have that functionality (and many more as well). -- Jayron 32 11:17, 9 May 2023 (UTC)