Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Science/2019 November 7

= November 7 =

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(Moved to Misc Ref Desk: Reference_desk/Miscellaneous. - SinisterLefty (talk) 04:44, 7 November 2019 (UTC) )


 * This is a conflict of ideology. Followers of capitalism will argue that its the "nature" of the system/humans to compete sometimes or even notorious beyond rules and regulations and that this ("free market") is in the end more helpful for society than Planned economy or more commonly called Socialism.


 * Strangely something called Third Way, a combination of both, seems to have won the competition historically. Unfortunately this includes benefits and flaws of both systems, including some companies that seem to exploit society and some that lake to much innovation to help society. Btw. there are 100001 books, studies and research papers about this out there. Go reading but you could aswell become a politician and waste your time that way. --Kharon (talk) 04:52, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes (this is a conflict of ideology) and no:
 * competition is always here, multi-axis, no matter what. Axis being the people you try to make happy so that you get paid and be happy yourself : customers; workers; shareholders; nuisance such like the mob, the press, etc. ; rules and rulers. The political system will dictate how much return you will get from your effort to bend the rules/rulers/nuisance to your side, against your competitors, and also how much is at stake in case of failure (could be goulag or even death...). The idea that planned economy, socialism, state regulation, or whatever erase competition is just false. It just change battle ground. Competition inside socialist states is even fiercer, as bribing (or flattering, or whatever) the ruling party bureaucrat to have competitors goulaged or even executed, is fair game, since this is also what is at stake for yourself. This will not benefit customers, workers, or shareholders ("the people" in case of full fledged socialism).
 * And yes, Mussolini obviously won, the whole world follows his ideas nowadays. And Orwell's. Gem fr (talk) 22:49, 8 November 2019 (UTC)