Wikipedia:Requested templates/Archive 10

Political disputes
Some articles are likely to be subject of disputes during the time their contents are discussed in the political life. A template should be created to inform that a current policy is to be changed. Much precautions should be taken when editing it until the new policy becomes official. I also fear that the old policy description disappears, while it should be transferred under a historical section.

The idea came to me because of the upcoming French territorial re-administration (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comit%C3%A9_pour_la_r%C3%A9forme_des_collectivit%C3%A9s_locales). During the next few months (until 2014), the following articles are to be deeply modified, although nobody really know precisely how and to which extends (upcoming elections): Administrative divisions of France, Departments of France, Regions of France, Communes_of_France, Overseas regions of France, and so on...

The template should go like: "This article is currently subject to important political discussions that will decide the way it is to be edited. The present content will become obsolete within a period of , and should be moved into a historical section. If you want to update the present content, be very careful to use official and definitive informations linked with their proper sources."

L&#39;œuf (talk) 03:07, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * This can be achieved easily with ambox.  bibliomaniac 1  5  03:55, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Articles in the course of translation
Hi, template-making people! — Please could I have a template similar to that says something like "This article is in the process of being translated from (article link) in the (foreign language) wikipedia.  In order to reduce edit conflicts, please consider not editing it while translation is in progress" ? — The reason I need it is because otherwise I get annoyed by spam from recent changes patrollers if I save it before I get as far as the references or indications of notability. Thanks in advance!— S Marshall  Talk / Cont  16:54, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Incidentally, if a template like this already exists, it's not listed in the WP:TIE pages anywhere.— S Marshall  Talk / Cont  16:56, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * A work in progress: beingtranslated. I'll come back and look at it later. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:02, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Fast and helpful!— S Marshall   Talk / Cont  17:49, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Can you consolidate this with translation WIP? I'm not sure we really need both of these. Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:19, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, you're right, they seem to serve the same purpose. S Marshall, do you like that one or are there any features of the new one which I could incorporate? &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:22, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * On looking at it, I don't think they serve quite the same purpose. It's like the difference between inuse and underconstruction — translation WIP says, "I'm translating this article, please help me", but beingtranslated says, "I'm translating this article right now, please don't touch it til I've finished."
 * If that makes sense, and I hope it does, I think there's a place for both templates.— S Marshall  Talk / Cont  23:46, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Request for a new animal userbox
Hello I have decided to create a new Userbox which is why I came here to seek approval this is what the userbox will look like:

Please tell me what you think. Thanks. L07ChLeo3 (talk) 21:27, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I think you should read the bits about userboxes at the top of the page.
 * I also think you're just a bit scary -  -- Ludwigs 2  22:07, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

So is this a yes or a no? L07ChLeo3 (talk) 11:04, 14 March 2009 (UTC)


 * neither. this page deals with templates; userboxes have their own page (which you'd know if you read the top of this page, like I asked).  And frankly, I'm the only person who will even bother to tell you that, because most everyone else is tired of redirecting people who can't be bothered to read instructions.  yeesh.  -- Ludwigs 2  15:37, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Infobox Euroleague Player
Hi, I don't know if this is the correct place, if it's not, please tell me where can I ask for it. I would like to improve the Template:Infobox Euroleague Player by adding the chance to put the height in meters, and the weight in kg, for the reasons explained at the talk page. I tried it, but I failed when I had to change the height and weight parameters to optional paramameters. I undid the changes in order to do not affect all the articles which use this template, but you can check my attempt in the history page. Could somebody help me with it? Thank you. MinorKan (talk) 14:23, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks to me like you can, see my code example. chandler · 14:58, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


 * OK, thank you, I didn't know this option, but anyway, I think that it would be better if you don't have to use any other template to put the height and weight in these units. Just using something like this:

Is it posible? MinorKan (talk) 15:34, 27 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes. See convinfobox. J IM ptalk·cont 03:46, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

DMOZ Template Leading / Trailing Slash
As shows there are ~ 300 occurrences where the template generates links that are technically working, but not actually valid. When I mentioned the same thing in the german wikipedia (there with the leading slash only) two nice persons modified the template to correct those on the fly.

This is a protected template used in several thousand articles, so apart from me not being able to edit it anyway, I would like somene with more experience than me to do the work.

From the discussion in the german wiki, I know that in some type of solution a problem can occur with encoded pathnames like the following, please check that this still works.

Anyone able to help? -- Windharp (talk) 07:56, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * If the links work anyways, why do we need to change the URL? Calliopejen1 (talk) 16:22, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Because generating invalid links by software is not a good thing. Same like having invalid HTML is bad, even though modern browsers can handle most errors rather well. --Windharp (talk) 07:38, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * first off, thanks for linking to discussion in German. "Könnte man auch über die Vorlagenprogrammierung lösen" right back atcha.


 * I could request the exact same change that they used on the German Wikipedia, of course, but it's kind of a hack. a much better solution would be to request a bot to take care of this (i.e., have a bot go through all the articles that transclude this template and strip any leading or opening slashes in the first positional parameter).  then add something to the documentation to prevent people from adding them in the future.  -- Ludwigs 2  00:55, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I am not sure if using a robot is the best solution. Modifying the template makes it safe for future usages as well. Considering the number of times it is used, I would say the chance of those slashes placed in the future is rather high. Regardless of any note we could place.


 * If you decide to use a bot instead it would be fine with me as well, though. Please make sure both leading and trailing slashes are removed in all articles you touch. The template in the english wikipedia automatically adds a trailing slash, while the german one doesn't. That's why trailing slashes wasn't an issue in the german wikipedia. The search query I posted are only those containing a leading slash, most of them having a trailing one, too. If your bot is easily able to find the ones _only_ containing a trailing one, that could be a possible trget as well. -- Windharp (talk) 07:38, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I brought this up over at the bot place, and the consensus seems to be to let sleeping dogs lie.   I updated the doc page, though, to keep it from happening on any more pages.  -- Ludwigs 2  20:54, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Userbox
I want a Userbox. I'm not sure how to create this. I only want it to state that im a patroller :p ! Coz i'm active on Wikipedia, looking up many articles, improving it. I'm new but i can improve, edit typos and know what is not appropriate. I just learned the rules guidelines etc, after i made my first article and it got closed.

I want to help people, help the community, help Wikipedia and new people.

If i am Not an appropriate Patroller then do you care to elaborate? Give me instructions on how i should be.

Thanks ~Sarathoric (Sarathos was taken! Scumbags! Not you :P)


 * Excellent! if you read the top of this page, you'll find a link that will tell you all you ever wanted to know (and probably a lot you don't) about finding and creating userboxes.  I know there are a few predesigned patroller userboxes over there.  -- Ludwigs 2  21:20, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Gnosticism template help please
Gnosticism, a template I have never edited (and I can not stress this enough), is fundamentally in need of redecorating. My feeble tests have all failed even though I think simply switching a few style bits or something would help exponentially. Would someone please add a border and maybe some contrasting background. I'm also concerned the print is rather small but maybe Gnostics and their supporters all have exceptional vision, so to speak. Any takers? -- Banj e b oi   03:24, 27 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll take a look at it, though I'm not really much of a decorator. can you point to a template you like for comparison?  -- Ludwigs 2  04:44, 27 March 2009 (UTC)


 * EDIT: ok, I converted it to the standard religion format. it's customizable, so if you want to change colors or etc, tell me what you think would work. -- Ludwigs 2  06:06, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm easy, that was everything I was hoping for. I have absolutely no clue on the subject but I think you've opened the door so others can look to changing it up. It was utterly awful before so many thanks! -- Banj e  b oi   11:00, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Japanese TV navigational templates
Some user created navigational templates of the Japanese local television stations, something like TV-hokkaido, TV-kanto, TV-kinki and TV-kyushuoki. However, they are, speaking in evil, looks ugly. And for TV-kanto, it is duplicated with Kanto TV. -- JSH-alive talk • cont • mail 14:09, 27 March 2009 (UTC)


 * well, ok. these have few transclusions, and should probably all be converted to the style of Kanto_TV.  I'd do it myself, but I really have no idea what any of it means - it's just random letters to me.  if you want to try to put it together using Kanto_TV as a model, I'm happy to help with any questions, and with implementing it in the articles.  -- Ludwigs 2  15:23, 27 March 2009 (UTC)


 * If I was an admin, I would like to delete TV-kanto]. But don't know what should I do with other templates. -- [[User:JSH-alive|JSH-alive talk • cont • mail 07:16, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * You don't need to be an admin to nominate a template for deletion. see wp:templates: you just need to find the correct deletion template and add it to the template page.


 * why don't you explain what these templates mean, in a general way (e.g., what is FNN, NHK, MBS, JAITS?) I can figure out what the prefectures are, and BBC is pretty clear, but the rest is a mystery to me.  if you explain it decently, I'll make new (prettier) templates on the lines of Kanto TV and nominate the others for deletion.  -- Ludwigs 2  07:47, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * They're Japanese television stations. Fuji News Network (FNN), NHK (Japan Broadcasting Corporation/Nippon Hōsō Kyōkai), Mainichi Broadcasting System (MBS), Japanese Association of Independent Television Stations (JAITS). 「ダイノ ガイ 千 ？！」(Dinoguy1000) 17:49, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * ok, but look at Kanto_TV: there is a bunch of information there (regional VHF, prefectural UHF, educational, non-profit) that's not in these templates.
 * well, at any rate, it looks like these templates were all created by User:Nishi-Kyo; I'll send him a note and ask him to cope with it (since he's up to speed on this), but it looks like Japanese is his primary language. does anyone here speak enough Japanese to follow up with him if I can't get the idea across?  -- Ludwigs 2  18:14, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I can point you to a few users, if it comes to that. 「ダイノ ガイ 千 ？！」(Dinoguy1000) 18:25, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * ok. plus, I suppose I could just change the templates myself, and leave it to him and others to correct what I muck up.    -- Ludwigs 2  18:31, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Numbering tables
See Requested templates/Numbering tables - moved to subpage because it was making this page take ages to load. Calliopejen1 (talk) 02:44, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Journals infobox updating
Hello, I gathered from a comment that this is a good place to bring up issues of existing templates. Some Infobox Journal params don't seem to work, which I brought up on that template talkpage, here. I think that's a pretty low-traffic page though, so I'm linking it here. If anybody is able to fix the issues that'd be great, as I'm not (technically) able to myself! –Whitehorse1 19:09, 27 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I can look into it. however, it seems to me that in standard citation format, publisher and country usually go on the same line; the only reason it line-breaks in the demo version is because of the length of the names of the parameters.  the jstor issue might be more relevant, but I have a hard time believing that jstor changed their system of reference completely; that would have the potential to muck up all sorts of academic references, which would be a quick and easy way of shooting themselves in the foot.  -- Ludwigs 2  20:26, 27 March 2009 (UTC)


 * ok, I've responded over at the talk page. -- Ludwigs 2  20:51, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Awesome, thank you. I'll reply there. –Whitehorse1 20:56, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Software Discontinued
There should be a template that says the software has been or will be discontinued. Ideally, it would say something like "This article documents software that was discontinued in March 2009." or "This article documents software that is to be discontinued in October 2009." I would like this template for certain microsoft software...most notably Encarta.Smallman12q (talk) 19:56, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


 * do you want a separate template, or an extra parameter added to Infobox Software? -- Ludwigs 2  20:06, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I whipped up an ambox. Not sure if this is what you meant but check it out:


 * First is no parameter, second is with the first parameter, third is with the "to_be" parameter. -- Y ar na lg o talk to me 21:03, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Perfect. Could you move it to main template space? Smallman12q (talk) 23:41, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Sure. Got a name picked out? -- Y ar na lg o talk to me 23:53, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Whoa, guys. I still think it might be better to add this as a parameter to Infobox Software, for the following reasons:
 * it would take up less space, and be less prominent (this is not information that we need to blast at the reader).
 * it would keep template sprawl down - no need for a second template here when we can modify the first.
 * it would be easier for users, who would see the parameter when they add the infobox template, and not have to go hunting for another.
 * at any rate, I'll request the changes to infobox template: we can compare the two versions. -- Ludwigs 2  00:27, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * My only suggestion is that the template automatically calculate if it is to be or has been discontinued based on the date provided(I'm quite sure the function exists to compare dates). Well, if you could add it Ludwigs, I'd appreciate it. My only other concern would be that it may affect current templates then.Smallman12q (talk) 00:50, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * here's a mockup of what it would look like with a 'discontinued' parameter. I can add some CSS to give it a red border or background, if you think it needs more attention.  it's a very simple change - just turns the words 'Latest release' into the word 'Discontinued' - so it shouldn't create any issues on other pages.  -- Ludwigs 2  01:01, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Adding it to the infobox is good, but I would still like a template to slap onto the articles. It would make it more "obvious" so to speak.Smallman12q (talk) 20:24, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * But why does it need to be obvious? I think I would nominate this template for deletion in a heartbeat. Calliopejen1 (talk) 01:49, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * maybe I should write a template that slaps a big red circle-with-bar across the entire article? or better, a bloody dagger sticking out of the infobox, and dripping down the right border of the page...   -- Ludwigs 2  04:56, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I went ahead and made an edit request for this change. -- Ludwigs 2  15:52, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * While I see you that you may have a condescending POV, there is currently a template for beta software beta. Isn't a software that is going to be discontinued also deserving of a template?Smallman12q (talk) 19:45, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * please don't confuse humor for condescension - I'd love a wikipedia that would allow a bloody dagger template like that. make the place a little less stuffy.    that being said, though, if you examine beta you'll see that it adds a table row to a bigger table - it is not a stand-alone ambox like the one above.  I can not think of a case on wikipedia where a content item was deemed sufficiently important to have it's own ambox that way (except for infoboxes themselves, but those are always rather subdued in appearance). it's a style issue, more than anything else; wikipedia goes for a conservative, understated look.

Indonesianmusic help please
Another can you pretty it up request. Indonesianmusic seems in need of a solid border of some sort but any change is likely a good one. Any help appreciated. -- Banj e b oi   10:31, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * this will take a bit more work. really what's needed here is a 'music of...' infobox, which doesn't exist, so I'll probably make one.  give me a day or so.  -- Ludwigs 2  14:03, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I've started work on it here - Infobox music of - if anyone wants to play with it. some things (like the Timeline and Samples sections) need to have link options added, and any styling input would be useful.  -- Ludwigs 2  17:47, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * ok, there's a mockup on the template page above - still not ready for distribution, but I could use comments on style issues, things that are missing, things that need to be restructured, etc.


 * The "Music of" should be a part of the box and it would be nice if it has a background color and small but contrasting colour border. -- Banj e  b oi   16:07, 23 April 2009 (UTC)


 * well, ok. the first is done, and the second is done to the best of my abilities (I have a great ear for music, but a lousy eye for color, at least from scratch).  if you can be more specific (even to the point of using online resources to give me hex values for colors), it's very easy to change.  and really, the CSS on the infobox template is versatile - if you can imagine it (and communicate it) I can probably make it happen.  -- Ludwigs 2  17:20, 23 April 2009 (UTC)


 * OMG! That's already so much better! I tweaked the color. -- Banj e  b oi   02:48, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment. Category:Music by region templates, about 40 as of yet. -- Banj e  b oi   02:52, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * yeah, I noticed. I actually made a template - convert template - that you can put on the template page to notify people that a template needs to be converted to this (or some other) standardized format.  I need to make a category for it (which I'll do now), but go ahead and add that template to any 'music of' template that needs to be switched over, and we'll fix them as we have the chance.  -- Ludwigs 2  04:07, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * also Category:Music_by_country_templates -- Ludwigs 2  04:09, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


 * LOL! Music of Mars, genius! -- Banj e  b oi   02:15, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

This page currently wonky
It's likely tied to some of the coding and template bits in the sections above ... but everytime I try to load this page I encounter a pronounced bumpy ride. This doesn't bother me too much but for those of you who have more powerful systems may be immune to such hiccups. Just an observation that something is going on. -- Banj e <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   02:19, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I've been having the same problem. I moved the first section to a subpage because I think it was causing the problems. Calliopejen1 (talk) 02:46, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I've had the same problem. That discussion is done so can't it just be archived? Also this belongs on the talk page. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 02:56, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Notaforum namespace switch
Could someone that has more experience with parser functions please help me. The last words (...of this article) should switch based on what namespace it is in. For example, "...of this file", "...of this template", "...of this category", etc. Thanks -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 23:25, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅, figured it out myself . -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 23:42, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Add Maltese Language Userbox
Hi, i support the Maltese Language Wikipedia and i look at your foreign language userboxes and you left it out, can you add it —Preceding unsigned comment added by RandomGuy666 (talk • contribs) 13:02, May 15, 2009

See the note at the top of the page: For information on User boxes, see Template:Userbox and Userboxes. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 23:30, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Something like Template:Location map, with a different projection.
Template:Location map helps make easy-to-generate locator maps for infoboxes. See, e.g. Phnom Penh. However, it uses only an equirectangular projection, which is pretty crappy for locations near the poles. I've noticed that the Alaska map is pretty atrocious. See the shape of Alaska in the Nome, Alaska infobox and compare it to the (more accurate) shape of Alaska in the Fairbanks infobox. Is there someone clever with math who can make an equation for a non-equirectangular projection (I know basically nothing about this topic so I can't suggest a better one) to create some alternative, non-horribly-skewed map for infoboxes of places like Alaska? Thanks! Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:22, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

ifparadef testing
In the wee hours of the morning, I created the template ifparadef, which can detect if a parameter has been defined, and if it's empty (or contains only whitespace) or not. However, even after a couple hours of sleep, I still can't quite wrap my head around all the transclusion logic necessary to fully understand its actual behaviour, so I'm still not quite sure if it will behave as it should (as described in the documentation). Happy-melon seems to have reviewed it already, which puts me somewhat more at ease, but I'd still appreciate more second opinions from other template mastaz (preferably those with a full night's sleep under their belt =D ). Anyone up to testing the crap out of it? ···「ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? Talk to Dinoguy1000 19:55, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * All right, after a full night of sleep, I spent some time properly testing and debugging the template, and its behavior is now satisfactory and it has been successfully deployed on Infobox animanga character, to test for bad parameter names and add a maintenance category if they are used. Some notes: it is not intended to be used directly on articles and other "top-level" content, and will probably not work correctly if it is used in that manner; it has not been tested with two or more levels between itself and the top-level content (e.g. ifparadef transcluded into yourtemplatehere, which is transcluded into anotherrandomtemplate, which is transcluded into Some random article); and it has not been tested with unnamed (numbered) parameters. Once again, anyone willing to take a look and/or suggest places where it can be used (or just implement it in such places)? -- as 66.116.12.126 (talk) 04:59, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Rescue help please
This template is focussed on AfD'd articles and we use the coding from find to encourage editors to search for sources. I'd like to add a "find=" paramater so we can specify a more accurate search string when the article title is less than helpful. For instance article John Foo could be modified witha search parameter "find=John Foo physicist" to weed out less helpful results, etc. Any help appreciated. -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   22:55, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I think the template had such a feature until the 3 April when it was removed . &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 06:53, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I disagree with that. Both versions, as far as I can tell though are just find template with neither offering the route of specifying a "find" parameter. Any way we can make that happen is fine with me. -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   16:40, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, I tried reverting back to the old version and that didn't do anything. Any ideas? -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj e  <u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b oi   13:23, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Request for new case law drop down box
Hi everyone. I don't know how to do it myself, and so I'm asking here. I'd be super grateful if someone could help. I'm after a simple template, something like this:

I want it to be on the right hand side. Closed at first, but when you click "show" to reveal a list of legal cases, which would be one below the other. So you click it, it would show for instance,


 * Adams v Lindsell
 * Addis v Gramophone Co Ltd
 * Allcard v Skinner
 * Attorney General v Blake

Preferably the standard light blue colour would be best. The heading of the box could be things like "Leading cases on consideration" or "estoppel" or something. If anybody could do this (I'm sure the experts can whip this up in a flash!) then it'd be superb. Please let me know.  Wik idea  00:15, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Just to add one thing, I expect that if I want templates with different lists, that's a new template. But if some cool individual would just make one for me, then I can easily replicate more myself. Just don't know the codey stuff.  Wik idea  00:19, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I made a rough first draft. Tell me what you think and any improvements I can make. When its done I'll turn it into a generic template so that you can use it for different instances.-- Yarnalgo  talk to me 03:08, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Yarnalgo, you're a champion; but can I ask another thing: can it be on the right hand side of the page? In fact, is there a field you can add so that an editor chooses which side it goes?  Wik idea  08:55, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Another thing, when I type out the title as you see it now, it seems there is a lot of space, but the title still goes to two lines. Is that unavoidable?  Wik idea  08:57, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Btw, it's great how each line has alternative colours! (or shades of grey)  Wik idea  08:58, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Isn't it already on the right side of the page? I'll add a parameter so that it can be chosen. About the two lines of text, it goes to two lines because it is being formatted to be centered. At right is what it would look like if it was forced to be on one line and as you can see it is off-center. Which way would you like it? -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 21:44, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmmmm, both those boxes here show up for me in the centre. I've got an Apple, so I don't know if that's my fault. But the military one I gave as an example does appear on the right. Otherwise it's fine, but it can't be in the centre.  Wik idea  23:14, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * That is weird. It might have to do with your browser if you are using an old browser (it would have nothing to do with you having a mac), but I can assure you that it is configured to show up on the side and should for everyone (again, not sure why it's not for you). Also, any comment on the title being in one line or two? -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 01:50, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * PS Do you have a preferred name for the template? I'll make it a real template so you can start using it. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 01:53, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

<div class="infobox NavFrame" style="float: ;">

So I made a version that I'm 98% sure will be on the right for you. The only problem is that the title is even more messed up. You can trust me that it is showing up on the right or we can use something like this. Tell me what you think. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 08:03, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * That's working properly now for me so far as alignment goes. Could you make the font in the box smaller again? The title is actually not so much of a problem (I'll just have shorter titles). Could you call the first one "Template:Casebox"....


 * ... you know what, I just thought "how about "Template:Caselist" instead, and I find that something's already there. Some good person fixed up one I attempted to make before. But trouble is that it doesn't seem to allow multiple cases, or many lines. I'm sorry if I'm putting you to all this fuss, I just should've referred to that one to start! Oh, I've just been tampering and I think I've figured it out. Here's an example.


 * But it will still be very good to have one on its own template page (so that I don't have to take up space on every page each time). Could you put one up with the "Template:Casebox" name? Thanks for your patience with me!  Wik idea  08:40, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

That's great that you found that. Makes our job a lot easier. But why do you want a separate template? What's wrong with that one and how would a separate one be different? -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 22:34, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I mean so that I can just paste a template link like " " into multiple articles, and not clutter up the page with the list of cases each time (I'm going to have some drop downs with a considerable number of cases!).  Wik  idea  22:41, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Is it possible to put the code of the one above into a template page of its own, and then replicate those?  Wik idea  22:49, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Not sure what your asking with the second question but to create a specific template you would just put the caselist code into a new template as you said. I could do it for you but it's very easy. (Also, I figured out why it wasn't showing up on the side for you). -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 22:58, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Please do! All I mean (and you could use the above listed cases as an example) is that when you paste the template into an article, it automatically comes with those cases. So to change the cases the template shows, you'd need to change the template itself, rather than to change the cases listed in the article. If you do that I think we're done!  Wik idea  23:54, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


 * And don't know what you figured out, but at the computers at work (PCs) all the caseboxes on this page show up on the right. But now back at home (with a mac) the second and third ones (that you created) show up in the middle (the first military one and the fourth and fifth are on the right). So maybe just work with that last one to save problems?  Wik idea  23:56, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't know what specific cases you want or what you want for the names of the templates so I'll let you create them. All you have to do is go to the template page (like Template:Casebox consideration) and paste the caselist code (exactly what you wrote for the last one on this page). Then to put it in an article, you would put in  just like normal. If you want to give me a list of titles/cases I can make them for you but you should learn so you can do it in the future on your own. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 00:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I request a new userbox template for members of the anarchism portal
I think anarchists deserves one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alocaluser (talk • contribs) 04:36, May 31, 2009


 * See the note at the top of the page: For information on User boxes, see Template:Userbox and Userboxes. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 18:09, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

New templates or inlines.
I wanted to suggest to the management of Wikipedia to add one message template and one inline tag.

--Nebula2357 (talk) 00:42, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Firstly, I have encountered many articles with the forms of "you" (e.g. your, yours, etc.), as though these pages are addressing the reader directly. I find this unacceptable, because these forms would also write the article like a set of instructions, while Wikipedia is understandably an online encyclopedia with neutral perspectives. Therefore, I wanted to request such message template urging users to remove the forms of "you".
 * 2) I fathom how weasel words can compromise an article's accuracy and neutrality. So, while I tagged a section for this issue, I stumble upon an idea of adding the inline template labeled where?, to question the article's sense of location, direction, etc.


 * Templates already exist for both of your needs. For the first one you can use (or leave the second parameter blank if you do not want to be specific. This produces:


 * And for the second, there is where which produces . -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 04:41, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Request for a Coastal settlements navigation template
Now that the WP:Categories of the form 'Coastal settlements in ... ' are being used regularly then this suggests that a 'Coastal settlement' navbox would prove useful. Does such a template already exist for this need? If it does not exist then read on.

Proposed structure:


 * coast: Wiki link to "List of coastal settlements in ... " or "Category:Coastal settlements in ... " article if it exists.
 * place: county or suitably large administrative body containing the settlement, and that matches 'structure' above
 * settlement: Name of settlement
 * anticlockwise: Name of the next settlement anticlockwise round the coast
 * clockwise: Name of the next settlement clockwise round the coast

example:

At some point the linked pages might be in the next county or event country, but that would not be a problem. This template would apply equally well to a lake or inland sea. These navboxes when complete would form circular lists. Stuffed cat (talk) 17:32, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Well I got this far - now wahat?

es:Plantilla:Coastal settlements navbox ja:Template:Navibox 横断施設等

Stuffed cat (talk) 18:44, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Seem to have got it working now. Stuffed cat (talk) 19:04, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Can you explain the different parameters in the template doc please? -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 22:44, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Request for a maintenance template for hard-to-expand articles
I try at times to contribute to less edited corners of Wikipedia. Articles tagged with are one source of such articles. Every once in a while I run into an article that has already briefly established the subject's notability but is nevertheless hard to expand, at least hard to do so using Google and other search engines. To save a future editor the trouble of going through what I did, I'd like a maintenance template that basically says something like the following: {{ambox As far as I know, no such template exists. Thanks. 66.167.48.132 (talk) 20:04, 29 June 2009 (UTC).
 * type = notice | image= Wiki letter w.svg
 * text = The following article is about a notable subject which appears difficult to expand using web search engines and other online reference material. Please consult alternative reference works to add to this article.  Further information might be found on this article's talk page. {June 2009) }}

Baroque music
There should be a template about the baroque period, with Vivaldi and Bach and Handel, plus the figured bass, etc.  Kayau  David Copperfield  MOBY DICK   the great gatsby  02:18, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * What do you mean exactly? Do you want a navbox? If so, it would be better if you made it yourself as you know what should be in it and it's really simple. See navbox for help with navboxes. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 19:53, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Birth year and age based on age as of a specified date
I request a new date math template. Consider the common case when the only thing you know is that someone was a certain age as of a certain date, e.g. from http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/20/arts/television/20pbs.html?pagewanted=print
 * Dateline: August 20, 2008
 * Excerpt: Mr. Savidge, 50, was born to British parents ...

We need a template that producing results just like. The arguments for the example would be:

Based on that information, we know that Mr. Savidge was born in either 1957 or 1958. We also know that (in 2008) his age is 49/50 (between January 1 and August 19), and 50/51 (between August 20 and December 31).

As far as I know, we don't have a template for this (correct me if I'm wrong). Thanks. 67.100.126.76 (talk) 22:47, 6 August 2009 (UTC) P.S. Feel free to give it a simpler name if you can thing of one.


 * I'm pretty sure I've got it working in my sandbox (but I don't think it's the most efficient way to do it). Check it out and then I can probably move it to the template namespace.


 * Produces :

1958 (age 50)

1958 (age 50)

1958 (age 50)

1958 (age 50)

1958 (age 50)


 * The middle one shows up as one age because it is the current date. Tell me what you think. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 19:41, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Alternatively (coming from soneone with *no* experience in this stuff), you could simply use one of the other date formatting templates to give an approximate date, then provide a parenthetical with the exact age as-of date, with a source (e.g. <tt>45 (43 as of January 1, 2007[ref])</tt>). 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 22:18, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I tried about a dozen dates, changing the year, month, day parameters, with month and day being before current month/day, after current month day, and on current month day. With reasonable arguments it seems to work, including some experiments with leap years.  It could be improved by some sanity checking, e.g. you could detect obvious cases of getting the month and day in the wrong order (i.e. month must be 1-12, day must be 1-31)&mdash;perhaps there's something you can reuse that does that already within the template world.  It allows for future dates, and I guess some future dates might be reasonable, e.g. a website releases an article on the web before they publish it in print, so I don't know what to suggest about that.  I didn't test dual dating, so I'd suggest checking with other date/time template programmers as to what to do with dates where that is an issue.  IMHO just document any limitations you want in this regard.  Thanks. 67.100.125.152 (talk) 06:38, 8 August 2009 (UTC) (previously editing as 67.100.126.76)

For the "sanity check", none of the other birth/death date templates have a check like this and we shouldn't really assume they'll be mixed up. (See the note on Age: "Note: This template does not check for incorrect input"). I'm adding support for the month to be named, either abbreviated or in full, so that "august" and "aug" will also work. It might me easier to just use the month abbreviations in the documentation so that there is less of a chance they'll be mixed up. As far as dual dating, I can't find any support for it in the other birth/death date templates so I'm not sure what to do about it. I'm not sure how big an issue it is and if it is necessary to add support or not.-- Yarnalgo  talk to me 23:12, 8 August 2009 (UTC)


 * PS Just an example,  produces "1958 (age 50)" -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 23:17, 8 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Sounds good. As far as I'm concerned it's ready for use.  The name I suggest is .   I'll change Martin Savidge to use it and help with the doc page once the template is in place.  Thanks again. 67.100.127.135 (talk) 06:09, 10 August 2009 (UTC).


 * ✅ with a basic doc that can be improved. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 20:55, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

"Article is a part of discussion about interlanguage link conflicts" template
It's needed to create template (supposed name "iwiki-conflict") which renders to message box with message that article's interwikies produces conflicts. Additional parameter required - name with subpage of Interwiki synchronization page for producing corresponding link to it in template output. This template will be used on articles that produces conflicts. Also it can be useful if template add article to category with name, for example, "Articles with interwiki conflicts". Please, ask me for further details if needed. Thanks in advance. DixonD (talk) 11:51, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅, the template is Template:iwiki-conflict and the category is Category:Articles with interwiki conflicts. Svick (talk) 14:18, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think an interwiki conflict is important enough to warrant such a high profile message box on the article. Perhaps a message for the talk page would be more appropriate? &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:47, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it have same importance as, for example, "This article is an orphan", "This article may need to be wikified" and other. Interwiki synchronization have very little attention from wikipedians because most of them not even know about it existence. If we set template on article, problem can be solved very quickly, but not if in talk page. DixonD (talk) 11:25, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Cite Video Game template
The template needs some new fields added to it. It is currently lacking a lot core ones. here is the basic discussion. More info of what's needed can be found at template talk:cite video game, but not everything there is needed (offhand i know issue and volume aren't needed). Also we need something like print=preoder/1st or 1stprint=yes - for print run editions as 1st print runs/preorders in a number of cases for video games contain special/exclusive content. This is not the same as version which tells the software's version. We may also want chapter as several games are formated/released as such. This would be in addition to level. Finally isolang should be removed as it is redundant with language. 陣 内 Jinnai 22:06, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Asperger Syndrome box
I would like a box representing that I'm female. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NightMoonXD (talk • contribs) 11:33, August 12, 2009


 * Can you be more specific? What kind of "box" do you want? -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 19:48, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm talking about a navbox. I don't know how to make one-talk to me —Preceding unsigned comment added by NightMoonXD (talk • contribs) 15:27, August 20, 2009


 * Start looking here how to accomplish it. --Kslotte (talk) 13:03, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Also see navbox which will tell you how to create one. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 17:42, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

$ per square foot conversion
Is there a conversion template for converting $/square foot to $/square meter or can convert be used for such a purpose? I need such a template at Trump International Hotel and Tower (Chicago) and I doubt this is the only place it could be useful on wikipedia.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:03, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm not seeing anything like that in the list of supported units for convert. I would ask at its talk page because the code for the template is SO EXTREMELY COMPLICATED and only the people working on it will know how to implement new units. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 18:48, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I will ask there.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:03, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Navbox with collapsible groups, collapsing logic
I need help on a navbox template. Anyone has any clue what is wrong with the template? --Kslotte (talk) 13:00, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I commented there. Seems to work for me. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 17:56, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

--Kslotte (talk) 01:59, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Company logos
Shouldn't there be an infobox about company logos?!

Suggestions:

CPB • CTW • Sesame Workshop

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.183.52.11 (talk) 21:25, 26 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what added functionality or convenience a template would add over just a gallery. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 00:16, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Template for translated material
I would like a template that I could put on the talk page for articles that use some material from a non-English wikipedia article, but where the original article is in English. The existing template implies that the original article is the non-English article. For instance, I would like to acknowledge that some of the material in the article Diamond Rock came from the French article Rocher de Diamant. Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 15:17, 1 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Why would there be an English article on a non-English Wikipedia? The French Wikipedia article fr:Rocher du Diamant is in French. Am I missing something? -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 01:57, 2 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the lack of clarity. I am editing the Diamond Rock article on the English wikipedia. In the English article I am using material that I have translated from the French article fr:Rocher du Diamant. What I need is a template for the talk page on the English article that says that some of the material in the English article came from the French article. The template should not, however, say that the original article was the French article because it wasn't. The original article was the English article. Hope that that clarifies the issue. Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 02:22, 2 September 2009 (UTC)


 * You mean you need a template that says the English article was expanded with content from the French article, but without implying that the French article was the original or anything, right? 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 19:03, 2 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Exactly. You put it most pithily. Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 19:26, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

(undent) You can use Frenchtrans which gives the output:
 * This article incorporates information from the revision of the equivalent article on the French Wikipedia. 

This is meant to be used in the external links or reference section in the article (not on the talk page). Also see the template page because there are more options (specific revision, article name). -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 05:57, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * That worked nicely. Thanks. TTFN. Acad Ronin (talk) 16:21, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Is there an equivalent template for German? I tried Germantrans but that didn't work. regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 19:22, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * That template is confusingly titled De.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 19:51, September 22, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks. You wouldn't happen to know if there is an equivalent template for Danish? Acad Ronin (talk) 23:55, 22 September 2009 (UTC)


 * The lack of response suggests there is none. Could someone create a Danishtrans template with the output: "This article incorporates material from the Danish Wikipedia." Acad Ronin (talk) 21:04, 22 October 2009 (UTC)


 * You can use the generic, e.g. that produces  Svick (talk) 22:57, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

possibility of hiding sidebar
Is it possible to let users hide sidebar while browsing and reading article so they can read articles in full width of page. The "view printable version" link is good but the result don't have any link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.74.153.22 (talk) 17:50, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * If you registered an account, you could do this by creating a user CSS with the following code:


 * Also note that pritable version DOES have links, but they are indistinguishable on first sight from other text. Svick (talk) 19:07, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Alternatively (but still requiring an account), it should be almost-trivial for someone to write a script allowing you to collapse the sidebar with one click (or to have it collapsed by default). This would allow you to view the sidebar without having to edit your stylesheet every time. 「 ダイノ ガイ 千？！ 」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 19:42, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Please Explain Acronym
Needed is a template that requests the explanation of an acronym. Please help. I couldn't find such a template in the article Manual of Style (abbreviations) The template should be one that could be place directly after an unexplained acronym, such as this "citation needed" template:  If such a template already exists, please let me know on my talk page. Then I will put a link to it in the article Manual of Style (abbreviations). Thanks.Boyd Reimer (talk) 13:19, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I think could be appropriate: Svick (talk) 14:09, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Sleepy
I'd like to request a userbox, using the file File:Smiley green alien sleepy.svg, with the text "This user likes to sleep.", possible "loves to sleep", and it should be called: Template:User sleep. Debresser (talk) 02:09, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

BTW, I can make a userbox, I have done so in the past, but I frankly lack the creativity and artistry required to make a nice userbox. Debresser (talk) 02:13, 15 October 2009 (UTC)


 * See the note at the top of the page: For information on User boxes, see Template:Userbox and Userboxes. You can make the request at Wikipedia talk:Userboxes/Ideas. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 03:06, 15 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I read that note before I posted this, but didn't see there what you said just now. I saw "For userboxes, try using Userbox first. A general description and guideline for userboxes can be found at Userboxes."
 * So I'll make an edit to this page, clarifying where to go with requests for userboxes, and take my request there. Thank you. Debresser (talk) 04:07, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Aged?
I think that the template Death date and age should be modified. This: February 24, 1993 Will return: February 24, 1993 I don't think it should say aged. It should say age. Bugefun (talk) 13:29, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Please continue your discussion on Template talk:Death date and age and if/when you have an agreement you can place an editprotected request and an administrator can make the change. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:44, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

InterTransWiki templates
There's no template to request an article be transwikied to a Wikipedia in a different language. Many non-English articles seem to be created on English Wikipedia, when they should be created in some other language. But for GFDL reasons, a simple copy and paste is inappropriate, so there should be a way to request a transwiki to another language, like we already have for other Wikimedia Foundation projects (ie. Copy to wiktionary, Copy to wikibooks , etc - For English)

It also would be useful to adapt the transwiki templates for other Wikimedia Foundation projects to support selecting a target language. (for non-English articles that should be on say... German Wiktionary)

76.66.197.2 (talk) 12:01, 18 November 2009 (UTC)


 * If an article on the English Wikipedia is written in a language other than English you should tag it with Not English. This template supports the specification of what language the article is written in; see WP:PNT for more info. If there is an article on the English Wikipedia that you would like translated into a different language the procedure is to go to that language's page for translation (for example, on the German Wikipedia it is Wikipedia:Übersetzungen). -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 03:45, 20 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Neither of those is what I was talking about. notenglish raison d'etre is to translate a non-English article into English, not to copy the article to a non-English Wikipedia. I'm not talking about translation at all. If article X is written in language Y on the English Wikipedia, language Y not being English, a template to request that article be transwikied to Y's Wikipedia would be useful, since transwiki will preserve the edit history of the article, which would be lost if a copy-and-paste-move were done to transfer the page to the non-English version of Wikipedia. A copy-and-paste-move would violate GFDL, were the version on English Wikipedia be deleted, since it would in effect be a cut-and-paste-move with no attribution history, and many non-English articles on English Wikipedia get deleted for want of translators.


 * If a dictionary defintion is written in English on English Wikipedia, I'd put a copy to wiktionary onto it, but what if the dictionary definition is written in Spanish, but is on English Wikipedia? This transwiki template does NOT take a language parameter.


 * 76.66.197.2 (talk) 08:37, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I think I understand what you mean. How is this:

German
 * You can change the parameter to whatever language you need. I'm not familiar with the policy for this sort of transwiki so it might be missing some things.  J kasd  08:06, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, that's what I was referring to. 76.66.197.2 (talk) 13:33, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Requested name modification to navigation template
The name of the navigational template below should be modified to Cape Canaveral and Merritt Island launch sites, as most of the sites listed are on Cape Canaveral, not Merritt Island. Only Launch Complex 39 is on Merritt Island. Thanks. RadioBroadcast (talk) 05:02, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Done. Would you like the template to be moved to a different title as well?  J kasd  07:52, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Misuse of WQA Template needed
I have been ptrolling WP:WQA for quite a while now and we regularly receive filings that have no business at WQA, such as forum shopping or often merely frivolous or unfounded allegations (which are themselves a violation of WP:CIVIL). We need a "Misuse of of WQA" template, preferably with a strongly angry-looking graphic since it represents a serious breach of civility. Existing templates are at Wikiquette alerts/Volunteer instructions. Comments and help welcome! Thanks, Eusebeus (talk) 14:18, 8 December 2009 (UTC)


 * that would be easy enough to make, but I'm not sure it would be wise. it would amount to a punitive template.  I think it would be better to use the NWQA template with a parameter, e.g.  »»»
 * -- Ludwigs 2 03:06, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Random article in category
I'd like to see a template that generates a link to a "Random article in this category". It might include a small pair-of-dice icon. There is a Wikimedia tool http://toolserver.org/%7Eerwin85/randomarticle.php that would do most of the work, but I'd like an easier to use template that could be simply inserted on housekeeping category pages. I set up one link using the tool at Category:Unreferenced BLPs, but I think other backlog categories and stub categories need such links and could benefit from such a template. The level of depth should be a parameter, defaulting to one. Making it easier and more fun to do mainenance is in Wikipedia's best interest.--agr (talk) 21:14, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅. I created and replaced your link on Category:Unreferenced BLPs with it. Svick (talk) 22:39, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the fast response. I've added it to a few more WP:Backlog categories to see how it goes. One nit, you might mention the default and maximum (<10) for the level parameter in the template documentation.--agr (talk) 01:37, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I added the mention of the maximum depth (it seems it is at most 10, not less than 10). The default was already there – it's only the specified category. Also, the documentation isn't mine, so you can (and possibly should) edit it yourself, if you know how to make it better. Svick (talk) 02:21, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * "Anyone can edit" applies here too--who knew? :) Anyway, thanks again for your help.--agr (talk) 03:02, 10 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I added a check so that if no category is specified and it is not on a category page it will cause an error message. For example, if I place it on this page with no parameters it produces:


 * You can change the message if you want to word it a different way. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 20:34, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Is it possible to link to a particular section of the random page? Assume the section anchor is known. <font style="font-family: Vivaldi"> Intelligent  sium  20:39, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I tried to add an anchor to the link and it worked. Should I add this option to the template? Svick (talk) 21:14, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think it did. Following the link only leads to the top of the article for me. <font style="font-family: Vivaldi"> Intelligent  sium  21:26, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Hm, I thought that different browsers might handle the redirect differently, but it works for me in both Firefox and IE 8. What browser do you use? Did the article you were send to have section called “References” (that's what I used in the example above)? Svick (talk) 21:32, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I was using Safari, which doesn't take me to the section. However, looking on in IE8 returns the expected result. <font style="font-family: Vivaldi"> Intelligent  sium  21:51, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The toolserver also seems to be experiencing technical difficulties at the moment. <font style="font-family: Vivaldi"> Intelligent  sium  21:55, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Navbox for airlines of the United States
I thought this up when I saw the navbox for "Airlines of Belgium" and thought it'd be a nice addition for the airlines listed in the navbox. Also, if possible, could anyone make sure that this navbox (if this request is accepted) gets on the pages for the respective airlines listed? If any airlines are missing, please add them. Thanks in advance.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Impededed (talk • contribs) 23:53, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Such navbox already exists: Template:Airlines of the United States. Also, this page is meant to request that someone creates a template for you, if you don't know how (you apparently do). If similar template didn't already exist, you could've created the template yourself, you don't have to ask permission for that. Svick (talk) 00:12, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Infobox UK University Rankings
Currently UK university pages have huge, unwieldy and usually incomplete rankings wikitables on them ( for example see University of Bristol) - In contrast american Universities have the nice and simple Template:Infobox_US_university_ranking could a similar template be produced for UK universities using the rankings used in the wikitables on any UK university article? - Thanks Ajbpearce (talk) 18:44, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


 * The short answer is yes.   I can whip up a template for that, but I have the following questions:
 * do you want it to retain the current table format that we see, or do you want it to mimic the sidebar structure that the American university template has?
 * if the latter, would there be any objection to building one rankings template for universities in general? I could just adapt the American template to include British rankers (yes, that's an 'r', not a 'w') as well.  -- Ludwigs 2  20:28, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I think the american sidebar format looks much nicer and just because the data exists, it does not really add anything to the articles to include the past 10 years of university rankings for each university - as to whether we just build one template or two separate ones, my only thought is that the syntax is already quite long for the US template and there are really only the few international rankings that overlap so it might be less confusing if they were separate, though its no big deal either way Ajbpearce (talk) 10:13, 4 January 2010 (UTC)


 * let me take a look at it. I think I can create a version that incorporates an option for historical ranks as well without to much trouble, so we may be able to have our cake and eat it too.  -- Ludwigs 2  18:28, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi ludwig I wondered whether you had had a chance to look at this yet? If not then no worries but thought i wold see how things are going :) Ajbpearce (talk) 21:44, 16 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I've been waiting for a response on the talk page (which hasn't yet occurred) - if there's nothing soon I'll just do it and wait for people to complain.   -- Ludwigs 2  23:05, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
 * aha ok, thanks for the update ;) Ajbpearce (talk) 00:20, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Table article ignore
Is there a simple coding, added at the start of a table as special property text, used to make it ignore articles {the, an, a) in alphabetizing? If not, make one. If one exists, tell me.  2J Bäkkvire Maestro  Test UR Skill! What I've Done 23:06, 18 February 2010 (UTC)


 * There is not. The only way to work around this is to use a sortkey. The template SortKey makes this fairly easy. For example in the table cell you would write . It would display as "The Free Encyclopedia" but sort as "Free Encyclopedia". -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 06:14, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

"Almost Finished" Template
How about a template that is placed on Maintenance categories that are almost empty (like categories sorted by date), and alerts users that that category is almost done, and just needs one more person to fix up the rest of the articles in that section and it can be removed?--98.114.243.75 (talk) 00:02, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * If it "just needs one more person to fix up the rest of the articles in that section and [then] can be removed", why doesn't the editor just fix up the rest of the articles rather than tagging the page? <font style="font-family: Vivaldi"> Intelligent  sium  00:09, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Template Gillespie County Municipalities and Communities
Can anyone please update the template to include the unincorporated community of Cherry Spring, Texas? Maile66 (talk) 23:54, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅. <font style="font-family: Vivaldi"> Intelligent  sium  00:08, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Generic Master's degree template
The existing Master's templates are too specific. May I request something like the below. Thanks Fintor (talk) 07:47, 13 April 2010 (UTC)


 * It seems you have no trouble modifying the code, so why don't you create the template yourself? Svick (talk) 12:48, 13 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Have created: Template:User degree/Masters. Fintor Fintor (talk) 11:15, 23 April 2010 (UTC)


 * -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 20:26, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Municipalties and Communities of Mason County, Texas
Can we please update the template to include unincorporated community of Loyal Valley, Texas? Maile66 (talk) 21:42, 24 April 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 18:33, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Infobox WWW Conference
I'm looking to create a set of articles for the annual WWW Conferences. There have been 18 so far. I need an infobox that would support conference name, conference abbreviation, logo (w/ caption), Year held, date held, venue, host, theme, program chairs, conference chairs, and website. A chart can be found at User:Smallman12q/WWW Conferences. Any help would be appreciated!Smallman12q (talk) 22:26, 1 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Can a more generic infobox not be used (or created); perhaps Infobox academic conference
 * The correct capitalisation would be
 * If this infobox is created, it should emit an hCalendar microformat. I can help with that if/ when the time comes.
 * Please provide links to a couple of articles which might use this infobox.
 * Andy Mabbett (User: Pigsonthewing ); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 23:47, 1 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Are you writing articles for each of the conferences? Because it only makes sense to make the infobox if you are. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 02:31, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I made the infobox in my sandbox. Blank syntax and examples here. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 04:03, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'll make the articles this week/next week when I get a chance. (Sorry for not replying sooner).Smallman12q (talk) 01:16, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Any update on the creation of the articles? -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 20:30, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm still busy atm...though I'm going to make the articles when I get some time.Smallman12q (talk) 11:02, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * How bout know? I'm actually just adding another timestamp to make sure this conversation doesn't get automatically archived. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 18:58, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Municipalties and Communities of Kendall County, Texas
Can we please update the template to include unincorporated community of Sisterdale, Texas? Maile66 (talk) 17:52, 25 April 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 18:33, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Template Gillespie County Municipalities and Communities
Caught a couple of more unincorporated communities that are not on this template. Could we please add Crabapple, Texas and Willow City, Texas            Maile66 (talk) 23:13, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅--Smallman12q (talk) 23:47, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

New template: infobox Government service
I want to request in creating an infobox template for Government services such as, Indian Police Service, Indian Administrative Service, etc. and other services which are distinct from 'Government agencies'. It will surely apply to many government services throughout the World. Cheers! *Truth* (talk) 12:30, 27 May 2010 (UTC)


 * What differences would this new infobox have from Infobox Government agency and can we just add missing parameters to that template? -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 22:56, 27 May 2010 (UTC)


 * These services which I am talking about are not actually agencies in their own right rather they are bodies to which all officers belong regardless of the agency for whom they work. Therefore, obviously there won't be a chief or an executive for the respective service but would have the senior most officer from that service to a agency as in the case of Director of IB and Chief Secretary of India who are the senior most officers from Indian Police Service and Indian Administrative Service respectively and are appointed in two different agencies. Moreover, these services also have their own separate long history. Similarly there are many other differences between Infobox Government agency and the proposed infobox. I would request that a basic model of this infobox is created, rest I can add, modify and develop accordingly. I am actually familiar with the government services in India but I am positive this infobox would also apply to many other services throughout the world. Regards*Truth* (talk) 06:28, 28 May 2010 (UTC)


 * What I'm saying is can we just modify Infobox Government agency to work for services also instead of creating a whole new infobox? All parameters in that template are optional so if there is something that applies to agencies but not services you could just not include it. We could also add a <tt>service</tt> parameter so that if <tt>service=yes</tt> it will replace "agency" with "service" whenever it appears. We would then also add any fields that you want that it doesn't currently have. If you still want to make a basic model, why don't you create a sandbox in your userspace (i.e. at User:JK-RULZ/sandbox) and work on it there. See Infobox for how to make an infobox. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 22:01, 28 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I personally feel, it would not be appropriate to modify Infobox Government agency as even though 'government service' and 'government agency' are both related, they happen to be 2 distinct models of the government. I am inefficient in contributing a new infobox or for that reason make a major change in an already created infobox, that is the only reason why I had opted to request a new infobox. Nevermind, I'll have to try it again. Thanks anyway. Cheers! *Truth* (talk) 07:31, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

(<-) I'm sorry you feel that way I was honestly trying to help. I've included an example of what Infobox Government agency would look like modified to be used for a service. I can make any changes you want, but if you still think we can't use this I will help you create the new infobox (I see you've created a sandbox at User:JK-RULZ/Sandbox). -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 22:12, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Year parameter to US$
Could we get a year parameter added to currency templates such as US$? There is notable inflation within all major currencies, and this should be accounted for in articles. $10 in 1990 is ~$15 today.Smallman12q (talk) 22:14, 19 April 2010 (UTC)


 * This would be hard because it would require constant updating to account for new inflation. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 23:00, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It wouldn't be that constant...how do you suppose we maintain articles with $ in them? There are plenty of articles in which the cost of something was added years ago...or adding an amount today doesn't adjust for inflation.Smallman12q (talk) 21:25, 23 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm working on it and then will make the request on the template's talk page. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 20:27, 24 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I got it working calculating the inflation to the nearest cent but then I realized it probably makes more sense to round to the nearest dollar and say about. What do you think? (it is in my sandbox with examples here) -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 22:04, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
 * That's pretty good. I was also thinking to have one in which it doesn't say "about $340 in 2010" but rather just shows the corrected amount...(though the about one is useful)...for example US$amount original year so US$20 1917 would simple show $340. Thanks for making this btw...it's going to be very very very usefulSmallman12q (talk) 11:01, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what source you're using but some relevant ones are Consumer Price Index, Inflation Conversion Factors for Dollars 1665 to Estimated 2013 (Oregon State), The Annual Consumer Price Index for the United States, 1774 to Present.Smallman12q (talk) 19:07, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

(undent) I was using the BLS inflation calculator. I think I have it done. See the example in my sandbox with the optional parameter <tt>about=yes</tt>. I'll submit the edit request as soon as I finish making it more accurate. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 00:59, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I posted the code to the template's talk page late last night. It's ready to go. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 22:40, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks good. Could you ask an admin to update US$ with it?Smallman12q (talk) 17:32, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I've made the request. I'm just waiting for someone to respond. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 18:55, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ The template has been updated with the inflation calculator. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 22:01, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Could you a "round" feature such as round=no with the default being round=yes for anything less than $100? It's pointless to have the cents when figure is in the hundreds of thousands.Smallman12q (talk) 13:56, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * In big numbers that aren't accounted for to, at least, the 100s place, a feature like this adds significant false precision, something that is VERY deceptive. Just something to note.Riffraffselbow (talk) 13:09, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Modified nihongo template
Hello! I am looking for a template which works like Template:Nihongo, but puts everything except for the English name (i.e. "Kanji, Rōmaji, extra, extra2) in a footnote instead of displaying it inline. It should be possible to specify the footnote's group parameter as an option in the requested template. This new template would help to un-clutter articles which use many instances of the nihongo-template. (This request goes back to a suggestion in this FLC.) bamse (talk) 20:46, 30 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I think I have it done.. Tell me what you think. I made it require the 1st (English) parameter but I could also make it function like the original template when there is no English parameter. By default there is no reference group so the footnotes are called by the basic  tag but the <tt>group</tt> parameter defines a group so that they can be called separate from the rest of the references using  . See the example below (more in my sandbox). -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 00:41, 31 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Perfect! For consistency it might be nice to make it function like the original template (i.e. not to require the English parameter). However the present version is all I need. Can you move it from user-space to article/template-space? bamse (talk) 13:56, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

(<-)✅ at Nihongo foot. You can fix up the doc as you see fit. -- Yarnalgo  talk to me 18:29, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Issues with WikiProject Banner
Would appreciate input from somebody good with template at this discussion. Thanks! - EdoDodo  talk 06:23, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ Problem solved by Ludwigs2‎, thanks! - EdoDodo  talk 15:03, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Hiding excess wikicode during substitution
I have created as a potential replacement for the four existing Categories for discussion nomination templates:, ,  and. (FYI: The idea to have a single, consolidated CfD nomination template arose from this discussion.) However, substituting the template would leave behind quite a bit of excess wikicode (see the examples at User:Black Falcon/Sandbox). Is it possible to fix this issue? Thank you, -- Black Falcon (talk) 22:08, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The  is the main concern, which I've fixed by forcing it to substitute as well when the template is substituted. It may be better to  . <font style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> Intelligent  sium  22:20, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * was indeed the correct way to go. <font style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> Intelligent  sium  22:26, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Face-grin.svg It looks much better. -- Black Falcon (talk) 22:36, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * You could further trim the substituted code by hardcoding " " in place of, unless you're concerned about editors not reading the documentation and passing  through the  parameter. <font style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> Intelligent  sium  23:00, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Images Breaking Formatting
I would appreciate it if somebody could take a look at Portal:Internet Relay Chat and fix the code so that the frames enlarge to the size of the images, instead of the images going out of the frame and breaking the formatting. I suspect that my mistake is somewhere in Portal:Internet Relay Chat/box-header. Thanks! - EdoDodo  talk 14:54, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ - It seems that adding did the job. Hope this helps.   Set Sail   For The   Seven Seas   253° 20' 15" NET   16:53, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Awesome, thanks! - EdoDodo  talk 16:56, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

2 new related templates for a visual novel listing page.
I would like to make a sortable wikitable that has column spanning captabilities. A similar template was already setup in 2 parts by Furry-con-list-start and Furry-con-list-entry GreenReaper, however he is unable to help because of RL circumstances. Due to some of the compliexities of this template listing multiple Japanese titles translated into English for various platforms and operating systems that sometimes changed them when translated and the multiple relevant ways one can sort this (Alphanumeric, original japanese release date, original english release date to name the 3 most likely ones) a sortable template with columnspanning is necessary.

I have setup a basic format (minus the sorting mechanism) how I'd like the end result to be at User:Jinnai/VN. The problem I am running into particulary is making the second row header sortable and also sub-divided under the first larger one. Using a basic "wikitable sortable" makes the top header sortable, but not those underneath. In addition, I need the notes section, as mentioned above, to span the entire length. Finally, the "link" header, should also not be sortable. 陣 内 Jinnai 22:11, 20 June 2010 (UTC)


 * if you read Help:Table they explicitly discourage using multiple-line header rows, since that breaks sorting. read that section, and if you can't figure out how to set it up post back and I'll help.  -- Ludwigs 2  01:21, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Making the headers column spanning is something I'd like, but if its impossible to do, I can live without it. The part of having a notes section that spans the entire wdith is a different matter. It is both possible and a nessesity for this kind of list and I would need help creating what is likely to be a dual-template table structure (based on other tables I've seen). 陣 内 Jinnai 03:43, 21 June 2010 (UTC)


 * The trick to adding a table-wide notes section is to use hidden sorting-key column, and setting its value to the same value as the preceding row. in effect, the notes row does not span all of the columns, but only the visible columns, and the hidden columns with the same value for the related rows will always sort them together.  if you fix up the header column, I'll show you how to do a notes-type row.  -- Ludwigs 2  05:44, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Headers are now redone. 陣 内 Jinnai 19:49, 21 June 2010 (UTC)


 * ok, I've added in the code for a sortable template that respects a notes row. I used a row template that you can find at User:Jinnai/VN/row.  it's not perfect (for instance, I doubt that the notes row will work consistently across a broad range of window sizes, and you'll probably want to monkey with some of the css), but it gets the idea across.  -- Ludwigs 2  20:58, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. EDIT: Is there a way to hide/collapse the notes row if its blank? If not that's fine. 陣 内 Jinnai 01:22, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * well, you could turn the entire second row of the row template into a conditional row. I can't work on it right now, but maybe over the weekend, unless you figure it out on your own.  -- Ludwigs 2  01:46, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Not sure how that would work with the current setup. I can understnad with a normal table how it works, but don't know about more advanced one like this. 陣 内 Jinnai 00:47, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * implemented it, and (oddly) is seems to work. go figure.  -- Ludwigs 2  17:58, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Did some testing and I was trying to get the text to wrap like it does in the template I listed above. Unfortunatly my attempts failed. Looking at that example I cannot see how they got it to wrap. Nor could I figure out if there was a way to use   that would work if it went beyond the last row (although wrapping would still be preferable). Thanks for helping with such a difficult template. 陣 内 Jinnai 18:44, 27 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't understand the problem - see the long line I added to the template at User:Jinnai/VN.
 * NM. I had the text zoomed for reading ability. Unfortunatly I know that it won't scroll to the end of the box for browsers life firefox which can zoom in/out. 陣 内 Jinnai 19:51, 27 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I've moved them to English-translated visual novel table and English-translated visual novel item and am having some issues trying to get them to work together. I moved both because the table will need to be used multiple times in the list. 陣 内 Jinnai 21:13, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean by 'the table will need to be used multiple times in the list'. in order to get these to work together, you either need to pass the row template as an argument to the table template, or you need to structure the table template as two templates (top and bottom table elements).  give me an idea how this is going to be used, and I can structure it either way.
 * Also, you want to use better naming conventions than this - do you mind if I move them to more effective names? -- Ludwigs 2  22:27, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * As long as its clear its for English-translated visual novels and not all english visual novels. I don;t want someone mucking the template(s) up for another page because it wasn't clear what it was for. 陣 内 Jinnai 22:36, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed, and placed at Visual novel (Eng-t) top. it's a three part template now, with a top, row, and bottom component.  I've filled out the docs on it as well.  -- Ludwigs 2  23:52, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for going through all the trouble with this template. 陣 内 Jinnai 03:01, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Rtd and Rb
The Rtd and Rb templates are used on talk pages to archive discussions where files tagged with di-replaceable fair use were deleted after being tagged with replaceable fair use disputed.

Currently, these templates are not substituted, they don't allow the signature of the closing admin to display properly and, despite the claim at Rtd, does not categorize these talk pages in. I've created a subpage here of three example inputs and their outcome, all problematic, as well as a desired outcome. Basically, the end result should substitute both templates, include the admin's signature on the Rtd template and the Rb template should add the aforementioned category to the file talk page.

Hopefully this isn't too complicated of a request. — ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  22:51, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * There should be no problem with substituting the templates, so nothing was changed in that respect. I (whilst accidentally logged in to my main account) have changed the template to allow closing admin comments (via an unnamed first parameter) which should resolve the signature issue, and to add the page to the appropriate category ( will never output "Image talk"; "Image" is an alias of the "File" namespace). Let me know if there are any other problems. <font style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> Intelligent  sock  23:27, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Worked out pretty well, thanks! — ξ <sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit  02:30, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Template for unwrapped source code
I am adding sample code to an article. in a language for which white space is significant. I can't use <code ></code> tags because they wrap and justify. I considered using <pre ></pre> tags, but they turn off Wiki and HTML highlighting. I can't use <source ></source> because it's an unsupported language. I am looking for a template that will
 * accept a multiline parameter
 * permit bold and italic highlighting within the parameter
 * render the parameter in unwrapped, unjustified monopitch.

Example: I would want

&#123;&#123;codeblock| foo     LA    R1,BAR BAL  R14,BAZ &#125;&#125;

to render as

foo     LA    R1,BAR BAL  R14,BAZ Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 12:08, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * There is one more way to format code on Wikipedia: add a leading space to each line. This preservers whitespace and allows wiki markup:

foo     LA    R1,BAR R14,BAZ
 * renders as

foo     LA    R1,BAR R14,BAZ
 * Svick (talk) 13:10, 29 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 14:58, 29 July 2010 (UTC)