Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/A Man In Black


 * The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a successful request for adminship. Please do not modify it .

A Man In Black
Final (29/0/1) ending 09:43 [1 October 2005] (UTC)

– Having worked with A Man In Black extensively in the Pokémon Adoption Center and Pokémon Collaborative Project, I have seen him to be a highly motivated and dedicated wikipedian. He has been here since the 30th of March 2005 and editted many articles other than those to do with Pokémon. He is attached to policy (especially WP:FICT) and is seen quite often on WP:AfD. I think that he would make a very good admin and use his powers well. --Celestianpower hab 09:43, 24 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:
 * I accept. (Beats the heck out of being listed on WP:RFAr!) - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 10:16, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Support
 * 1) Support - I've always trusted Celestianpower's judgement. --Celestianpower hab 09:44, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Support absolutely!!! Ryan Norton T 09:49, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Support certainly - trustworthy and dedicated. Schissel : bowl listen 12:18, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Support – I've seen him around the traps, always seems level-headed and trustworthy. --fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 13:58, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * --Boothy443 | comhrá 14:20, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * If it didn't violate WP:BEANS, I would say your promotion to be almost guaranteed now... --Celestianpower hab 14:24, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Vote from imposter account Boothy 443. Dragons flight 23:12, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Support, good guy. Christopher Parham (talk) 14:57, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Support Agree with above comments. Amren (talk) 15:05, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Support Lots of edits, so I'll support. Private Butcher 15:10, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Support. Kirill Lokshin 15:16, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 5) Oh yes, support. I see him all the time on AfD. Jaxl | talk 16:27, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 6) Extreme conspirational support! Very active on AfD. &mdash; J I P | Talk 18:02, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 7)   Journalist C./ Holla @ me! 
 * 8) Support! Aren't you the guy I yelled at for VfDing gym leaders? :) Looks like things have changed and now you are one of PAC's most active contributors. You're also got a ton of Wikipedia namespace edits, a staple for aspiring admins. Acetic  ' Acid  20:03, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, he is - and I was equally agry at that but a lot has gone on since then and the articles on the gym leaders are much better than they were. --Celestianpower hab 20:18, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Support, as the admin that unbanned him after Fred Bauder thought he was Plautus Satire =) Since then, he has shong a lot of great work.  Sasquatch  t|c 21:23, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Support. He may do a lot of pokemon work, but I see him everywhere else too. Plus I trust celestianpower. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 00:29, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Support Should make good admin. Alf melmac 00:48, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Support. --Alan Au 04:35, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 5) Support CambridgeBayWeather 09:39, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 6) &#8212;Charles P. (Mirv) 16:52, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 7) Support Very good User. Active and good to work with in VFD --JAranda'' | yeah 21:26, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 8) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|15px]] Extreme lesbian support! - I like his attitude about hopeless battles on AFD. However, I would like to see an avoidance of acronyms around newbies, like "nn". It doesn't take that much more effort, and why confuse the newbies when we don't need to? ...Most deletable articles are made by newbies. However, I fully support acronyms in edit summaries, since the space is limited there. -- Phroziac (talk) 03:55, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Huh, I never thought about it that way. That's some good advice, actually, and I will be taking it. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 04:13, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 * That's an admin attitude for sure. I have no idea why anyone would want to keep you from being an admin. :) --Phroziac(talk)[[Image:Flag_of_Phyzech_Republic.svg|25px]] 03:01, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Support. Very good contributor, I have disagreed with several of his votes on AFD but the civility is impressive. Sjakkalle (Check!)  08:59, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|15px]] Extreme Phroziac support! -- ( &#x263A; drini &#x266B; | &#x260E; ) 17:13, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Strong support--Exir KamalabadiEsperanza  02:50, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Support El_C 11:51, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 5) Support A very good contributor. If you do improve firearms articles, I'm sure they'll benefit as much as the Pokémon ones have. Sonic Mew | talk to me 14:11, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 6) Support- from inital oppose. Astrotrain 17:28, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 7) Sport - sometimes talks to me which makes me feel existent <3. Also a diligent WP:PAC worker. --WindFish 07:35, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 8) Support. Good stuff, this one. -Splash talk 20:38, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 * 9) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|15px]] Extreme Mexican Support! (Sorry, I just wanted to say that). Just go outside the pokéworld every once in a while, ok? Tito xd 22:52, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Too much focus on one topic (Pokemon), which I wouldn't even consider encyclopedic in the first place. Astrotrain 18:54, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Since when isn't Pokémon encyclopedic? Wikipedia should certainly include Pokémon, as it has been a notable phenomenon for almost a decade. Individual articles for each Pokémon creature or attack aren't necessarily needed, however. What I find utterly surprising is the sheer amount of work people have put into Gundam articles. Every single aspect of these "mobile suits" has been described. I am reasonably sure there are real military weapons that are described in less detail. &mdash; J I P | Talk 22:40, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Please also see the PACFAQ --Celestianpower hab 22:58, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Speaking of real military weapons, one of these days I need to see what I can contribute to the firearms articles on WP. I'm not an expert, but I know enough to fill some stubs sometime. More if I ring my dad and wrack his brain and his library. Is there a Wikiproject Firearms or something? - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 10:39, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I'd really rather not argue about the encyclopedic nature of Pokémon; it's mostly a hopeless quagmire. There are those who consider fiction encyclopedic, and those who don't. That said, I have spent a fair amount of time patrolling RC, and, before I got tangled up in the Pokémon Wikiproject, I contributed to (nonfiction) articles about portable game systems (including the Game.com, Nintendo DS, and PlayStation Portable articles) and memory cards (including Memory Stick, Secure Digital card, and SmartMedia). I've been so distracted by the Pokémon articles, though, because many of them badly needed a dose of WP:FICT, and as such I've been spending a lot of time merging articles and rewriting them for encyclopedic tone. Generally, both here and on Everything2, the site I contributed to before WP, I focus on one topic until I get bored with it, then move on to the next. If focusing on one topic is a problem for you, though, well, I don't know what I can say. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 08:42, 25 September 2005 (UTC)


 * My point was that I believe admins should have a wider interest in the Wiki, rather than one rather narrow topic. I will change to support given your involvement in RC etc. Astrotrain 17:28, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree that admins should have a wide interest in the Wiki. That's why I said to User:GordonWatts that he should not concentrate himself on Terri Schiavo -related articles if he wants to be an admin. However, my point here was only the encyclopedity of Pokémon. &mdash; J I P | Talk 15:55, 29 September 2005 (UTC)


 * 1) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|15px]] Extreme Phroziac support! -- ( &#x263A; drini &#x266B; | &#x260E; ) 06:43, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Uh. If you're supporting me, I think you put your vote in the wrong place. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 07:14, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh I indeed made a mistake, I'm fixing it (it was very late yesterday ;) -- ( &#x263A; drini &#x266B; | &#x260E; ) 17:15, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Neutral
 * 1) I have never heard of this user. Type O Spud 19:48, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * MY/OUR COMMENTS: Dear sir (or are you a mam?), with hardly 50 edits and rarely moving out of the pages for admin nomination, you will never hear about many users. Please get involved more in the basic task for which we all are here, that is, building the wikipedia. In my most humble opinion that would be the best way to hear about the users, instead of frequenting RfA page and your pathetic and poor sounding acceptance that “I have not heard about this user”. Be bold, and go and edit, you will learn about users and shall not feel like a timid boy or girl and crying repeatedly for days: I have not heard, I have not heard. In case, you feel inhibited to write, come on, select a topic – we shall create a nice article together. That is my promise. --MissingLinks 08:01, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Comments
 * edit count for A Man In Black. ~2700 total, ~1300 to article and ~650 combined Wikipedia and Wikipedia talk. --Celestianpower hab 09:47, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate

A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:
 * 1. What sysop chores, if any, would you anticipate helping with? (Please read the page about administrators and the administrators' reading list.)
 * A. Initially, I intend to go back to doing RC patrol, as well as using the administrators' tools (protection, blocks, etc.) to help stem some of the recent vandalism of the Pokémon pages, which have been getting hit what with school back in session. I also intend to learn how to do history merges.
 * In the long term, I plan on learning to close AFDs (or whatever bloody thing they're called this week) and learn how to Transwiki articles. The former I already know how to do mechanically, but I'm going to spend some time getting a feel for choosing AFDs I have no emotional attachment to.
 * 2. Of your articles or contributions to Wikipedia, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?
 * A. I'm rather pleased with the infobox I made for List of Johto Gym Leaders, and I plan on turning it into a template and using it on all of the related articles Real Soon Now. I'm also proud of how Template:pokeinfobox has turned out (Here's an example of it in use), but that's as much User:celestianpower's work as my own. Another thing I'm proud of that is as much Celestianpower's work as my own is the Pokémon species style guide.

Stretching back a ways, I'm rather proud of my contributions to Secure Digital card, although I am a bit unhappy that I don't know enough to do anything with the "technical specifications" header someone added.
 * 3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
 * A. I've had to deal with a handful of otherwise sane and reasonable users who I feel have gone "on tilt," acting irrationally. (I won't name names, because I respect them anyway and there's no sense embarassing them.) Usually, I patiently explain my position, then defer to someone else if I feel that the person in question isn't willing to talk to me. (On different occasions, this "someone else" has been someone User:Apostrophe or User:celestianpower, or just someone from #wikipedia.) I would hope that if I went on tilt, someone would do the same thing for me.
 * As for conflicts over editing, well, I entered the Pokémon Wikiproject by way of inspiring their furious wrath on VFD. Jokes aside, I've been rather outspoken there as a mergist/exclusionist voice, but it's been a good lesson on when to be bold, when to compromise, and when to concede.
 * I've always found, when I'm stressed or in a contentious debate, that it's a good idea to space out each controversial edit with a non-controversial, contributory edit elsewhere on Wikipedia. (This was somebody's pledge I saw somewhere; I wish I could attribute it.) I don't adhere to it always, but I try to, and it's a good way to dissipate Wikistress. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 10:51, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
 * The above adminship discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the talk page of either this nomination or the nominated user). No further edits should be made to this page.