Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Caribbean H.Q.


 * The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a successful request for adminship. Please do not modify it .

Caribbean H.Q.
'''Final (51/0/1); Originally scheduled to end 22:23, 11 September 2007 (UTC). Nomination successful. --Deskana (talky) 23:12, 11 September 2007 (UTC)'''

- Hello, fellow Wikipedians. I would like to nominate a very close friend, Caribbean H.Q. (CHQ from hereon), for adminship. Since 12 December, 2006, CHQ, formerly known as User:Dark Dragon Flame, has been an incredible contributor to the Puerto Rico WikiProject, as well as other projects. He has also amassed over 10,600 edits, but, it's not just the amount of edits he has made that amaze me, it's the incredible quality of every single edit. He has contributed to several article of both Good and Featured quality, such as Héctor Lavoe,  Ramón Emeterio Betances,  Boricua Popular Army, and  Miguel Cotto. He is also in the process of getting several other articles to GA status, such as Carly Colón and Fuerzas Armadas de Liberación Nacional (Puerto Rico). In admin areas, he is a regular at AfD, where he actively participates in discussions. He also founded the Devil May Cry Task force. He had a previous RfA which failed, but I believe he has addressed all concerns and is ready to take on the mop. --Boricu æ ddie  21:25, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:

I humbly accept --  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  22:00, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate
Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. You may wish to answer the following optional questions to provide guidance for participants:
 * 1. What admin work do you intend to take part in?
 * A: I still believe the backlogs on WP:AIV is often critical, sometimes with reports going unattended for thirty or more minutes. I think that I can deal with the backlog without any problem since I have a tendency to do monotone jobs if not busy, such as attending the backlog of unassessed pages in WP:PUR and adding the project template to untagged articles. As a frecuent contributor to WP:AFD, I can also help with the closing procedure in those discussions that involve a proven hoax, a obvious case of nonsense or a clear case of consensus per WP:SNOW.
 * 2. What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?
 * A: I am the kind of editor that likes to improve those pages that are of my interest, when I like a certain article I tend to give it a try for Good Article after adding references and doing my best to clean the text of any Original Research and/or POV. My best contributions have to be those that I have done for WikiProject Puerto Rico, I am particulary proud of working with Hector Lavoe and bring it to Featured Article along Borincano75, working along Eddie and Marcos with Ramon Emeterio Betances was a great experience also.
 * 3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
 * A: The last particularly stressful event I was involved in was a long discussion over the writting style to be used in Carly Colón's page, the debate ultimately end with consensus reached between me and the members of WikiProject wrestling following a long discussion that can be seen in Talk:Carly Colón.

Optional question from Xiner
 * 4. One AfD doesn't a candidate make or unmake, not usually anyway. I did take a look at Puerto Ricans in NASA, though, and two thought experiments came to mind. I hope you'll indulge me. a) Can you name an alternative to the list-article, and b) How will you respond, with relevant policies in mind, if someone questions the userfication of that article prior to its deletion?
 * A: I think there where two problems with how the article was, the first one being that while it was supposed to be a list-article it wasn't, it was more of a compendium of bios wich were considered reduntdant and led to its deletion, the second one is the scope of it, the article focused on NASA a goverment agency that isn't supposed to take things such as nationality under consideration and that was the main argument for deletion. I would have used a wider scope in wich to create the list such as List of Puerto Ricans in space programs and would have used a more traditional list format, listing the name of the subject and his/her occupation as well as adding a wikilink to a main bio page. I am personally aganist userfication, since it may not only be used to create new articles but it can be used to recreated deleted material, naturally this material can be speedied but if recreation persists it may end up salted wich would instantly create a bad image towards any article created that is based on the information there. I believe that the user dealing with the userification should consider the status of the editor to wich he is giving the material to, for instance in this case the author was Tony who is an admin, this means he can check the article's history to look for the information needed while avoiding possible recreation. -   Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  01:01, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Optional question(s) from Maxim


 * 5. You're closing an AfD where 7 (including the nom) of the 11 people want to delete, most delete people cite that the article does not meet WP:BIO or WP:N. The people wanting to keep dispute this, and cite some evidence. How do you close the AfD?
 * A: Seven out of eleven isn't really a strong consensus so I would wait longer before closing, but there are two obvious outcomes here, one if the evidence provided shows that the subject of the article meets WP:N or WP:BIO convincingly it should be closed at keep, two if the evidence presented doesn't appear to assessert that the subject meets the criteria or if there aren't any WP:RS to prove this and the debate doesn't offer any strong reason to keep then it should be closed as delete. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  20:27, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 6. In a particular AFD started just an hour ago, 10 users have already called for the article to be deleted. The article doesn't seem to meet any WP:CSD. After viewing it, you close the AFD early as "speedy delete". Why?
 * A: If none of the criteria is met then it must be a snowball close, though I wouldn't close it since one hour isn't enough time to stablish a strong concensus in a case that can prove as complicated as this one and I wouldn't close a case under speedy deletion if none of the criteria for it is present. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  20:27, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 7. Puerto Rico is nominated for deletion. What do you do?
 * A: I wouldn't touch it to avoid a conflic of interest, though such a debate would probably end as "speedy keep" before I even get there since the content of the page is clearly encyclopedic in nature. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  20:27, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 8 What happens if an admin closes an AfD as "no consensus"?
 * A: From my experience those AFDs that have ended in a "no consensus" have been kept by default, usually the nominators wait some time before nominating again seeking for a consensus. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  21:18, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Please explain this a little further: do you thing such a close useless or redundant? Would you never use it? DGG (talk) 01:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * No I don't believe its useless or redundant, this kind of close is unavoidable at ocassions, there are debates that need further discussion on the article's talk page or between users before a consensus can be reached. I am a man of concensus, this means that if no concensus can't be reached within a large time frame I would do it to let the users discuss it further in pursuit of the desired consensus. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  01:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Optional question from O (talk):
 * 9. How much time would you spend on improving the encyclopedia versus performing admin actions?
 * A: I have always been a streak editor so I would say about 60% of my time working on improving the encyclopedia (referencing, writting new material, working with GACs/FAs, discussing improvements to articles) and 40% of my general time doing sysop chores, that is close to my current work time average, I would attend a sittuation inmediately if presented though. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  01:33, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

General comments

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Discussion


Support
 * 1) Support - before anyone beats me :-) --Boricu æ ddie  22:25, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Support No reason to oppose.  Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake)  22:29, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Support. I couldn't find a single reason to oppose.  Useight 22:37, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Support just as in the last RfA. The opposition made no sense to me before, and since then this user has only further demonstrated a sound understanding of policy and the like. ɑʀкʏɑɴ 22:46, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Support Good editor!  Pat Politics rule!  22:59, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Support I opposed in the previous RfA for lack of experience. I think that has been solved and now I support. Captain panda  23:41, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Support - No concerns. --Hirohisat Kiwi 01:06, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) Support - based on my experience and collaborations with the user. - Mtmelendez (Talk 01:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) Support I see no reason not to trust this user! --SQL(Query Me!) 01:26, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) Support seems like a good user here. Acalamari 02:01, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) Support I checked his edits which were sound, and he did do work on those featured articles. Ton of work doing assessment - good for whatever wikiproject you're working for. (Wikimachine 02:46, 5 September 2007 (UTC))
 * That's WikiProject Puerto Rico :-) And yes, we're lucky to have him. --<font color="Green">Boricu æ <font color="Green">ddie  02:55, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Support Good, reasoned responses at AfD and all-around good contributions. Perhaps a bit on the anal side here, but it doesn't seem to be a regular occurrence, and wasn't controversial anyway. Good luck. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold  (t/a/c) 03:28, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, no offense to the closing admin, but, if he had truly read the article, he should have at least known how to spell the name of our country, don't you think? Of course, we all make mistakes, and I'm quite sure he has a belly-button, so, whatever :-) --<font color="Green">Boricu æ <font color="Green">ddie  03:36, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It was more of a speculation, perhaps a bit ranty but not meant to be a offesive comment, it just seemed unusual. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  03:48, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Support based on my experience of this editor, SqueakBox 04:11, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Strong Support He will make a great admin. Tony the Marine 05:28, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Support I've known this user since he came to Wikipedia, and I would trust him with my life. He's a great editor, and I believe that he will make a great admin. <font color="Steel blue">The <font color="Maroon">Hyb <font color="Green">rid  05:45, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Support, I have seen him around. He is a herd worker and as an admin. would be an asset to the Pedia. Antonio Martin 06:12, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Support A great editor. It is time to give him the mop. -- S iva1979 <sup style="background:yellow;">Talk to me 06:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Support No issues here. I've seen CHQ's comments all over the place and they always seem helpful and NPOV. A look though the edits this morning confirms my initial reaction on seeing this RfA - a great candidate who can only help the project further with the buttons. Very Best. Pedro | Chat  07:01, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Support - a fine user who will use the tools well. I am unconvinced with Maxim's neutral below that it will effect him as an admin.  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  07:11, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 8) I'm not concerned by the opposes and the neutrals at this time.  Daniel  07:21, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 9) Support Meets my standards with a Feature Article, despite the concerns raised by the debacle at Articles for deletion/Puerto Ricans in NASA. Answer to question 4 helps. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim  12:35, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 10) Support Seems trustworthy, good edit count (much mainspace edits); no serious concerns, so I support. ♠ <font face="Old English Text MT"> TomasBat  13:04, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 11) Support - A dedicated contributor. I trust this user. -- FayssalF  -  Wiki me up®  15:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) Support - I have yet to see one of his interventions in which he doesn't appear to be fair. Fairness is an important quality in an admin. and the basis for trustworthiness.Pr4ever 15:42, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 13) Support - What more can I say. Davnel03 17:24, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 14) Support -- I appreciate his work on some spam and sock-puppetry I encountered. I've read the oppose comment about his reasoning in the Puerto Ricans in NASA AfD and I think he had a reasonable point of view (even if I disagree with it). I think he'll make a good admin. -- A. B. (talk) 18:54, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 15) Support a good track record and clearly show a neutral point of view.Harlowraman 21:18, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 16) Support Judging by the questions, I'm feel CHQ has a solid understanding of AfDs, and I trust him to close them. However, the "correct" answer to Q5, in my opinion though, is simply no consensus [reached].  Maxim (talk)  21:28, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 17) Support I see no reason(s) why not. Jmlk  1  7  22:58, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 18) Support, I've had positive interactions with this user. Wizardman  04:08, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 19) I'm Mailer Diablo and I approve this message! - 16:33, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 20) Support. Vast edits, good answers to questions.  No concerns. Bearian 18:07, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 21) Like the contributions and good answers to questions. Keep it up, —<span style="font-family: Segoe UI, Trebuchet MS, Arial;">O (说 • 喝) 21:28, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 22) Support - Not terribly concerned by the points brought up below. --<font face="Comic Sans MS"><font color="Black">Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor ( tαlk ) 23:05, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 23) Nothing worrying here... --<font face="Harlow Solid Italic" color="black">DarkFalls  talk 23:20, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 24) Support, many quality edits in the mainpace, as well as in places like AFD. Not only do you make quality edits, but your editing is very balanced — a few article edits here, some vandal work, etc... I'm certain you would make a useful admin, Caribbean H.Q! :)  *Cremepuff  222*  02:11, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 25) Support good contributor, I do not see reasons to not support. Carlosguitar 07:08, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 26) Support good pedia builder. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:33, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 27) Why not?  Melsaran  (talk) 17:41, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 28) Support Have fun being an admin! Brianherman 19:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 29) Support I've seen this user do a lot of great work. <small style="border:2px dotted #090;">&#160;<font color=#000>east <big style=color:#090>. 718  at 02:23, September 8, 2007&#160;
 * 30) Support See nothing to suggest will abuse the tools. Davewild 07:36, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 31) Hey CHQ, where have I seen you around before (probably under your old name)? I remember it somewhere about the VG arena, but where? Dihydrogen Monoxide 01:48, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I appear around the project's talk page quite often, though it probably was around one of the DMC pages. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  22:05, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Support. Quite well balanced.  bibliomaniac 1 5  Two years of trouble and general madness 04:19, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Support. No concerns. —AldeBaer 16:56, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 3) Support no reason to think they would abuse the tools or fail to understand policy. VanTucky  (talk) 20:52, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 4) Support We need more people at AIV. Will not abuse tools. --Banana 04:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 5) Good contributor.  Blnguyen   ( bananabucket ) 00:47, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 6) Support. I see fairness, a strong sense of honor, attention to policy and a willingness to face down bullying attempts: I therefore have full confidence in this candidate's ability to use the tools with integrity, skill and care. Pia 11:47, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 7) Support. Will be a good admin. JACO  PLANE  &bull; 2007-09-11 14:53
 * 8) Support, as below. – Quadell (talk) (random) 22:12, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Oppose
 * Oppose Caribbean H.Q. specified that he wants to close AfD's, and I'm very worrying by a comment he made in this AfD, and as I have seen it previously while skimming through AfD, and it registered in the back of my head. I can't trust C H.Q. to close AfD debates, as he wanted to keep the debated article, which to me says that C H.Q. consequently doesn't understand WP:BIO, WP:N, and especially WP:DIRECTORY, which in point five clearly states "People from ethnic/cultural/religious group X employed by organization Y" is not encyclopedic content. In conclusion, I'm worried about C H.Q. closing similar, and contensted AfD, as this happened on August 26.  Maxim (talk)  23:13, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Please note that User:Marine 69-71 also wanted to keep the article. Does that make him a bad admin? --<font color="Green">Boricu æ <font color="Green">ddie  23:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * He outright voted, which is quite bad for an admin.  Maxim (talk)  23:17, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * He voted? Did you actually see the rest of the discussion? --<font color="Green">Boricu æ <font color="Green">ddie  23:18, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * User:SGGH, User:Mtmelendez, User:DavidShankBone, and I also participated in that discussion and wished to keep the article. Does that make us incompetent editors? --<font color="Green">Boricu æ <font color="Green">ddie  23:22, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Editors no, but I don't want you closing similar debates. C H.Q. clearly states he intends to that as the second of the two admin areas he intends to work in (Other is AIV). As for Tony, his comment on 00:02 August 26, was simply "Strong Keep". If that's not voting, then the definition of the word is wrong.  Maxim (talk)  23:27, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I realize that, but at least he participated in the discussion afterwards, right :-) --<font color="Green">Boricu æ <font color="Green">ddie  23:32, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The debate that was ongoing there was that it wasn't concerning any religious or ethnic group, it was about a nationality wich is different, my opinion was influenced by the argument surrounding that debate, and Cerejota's comment was what gained my support, stablishing that the higher figures in the agency had emphazized this was quite convincent to stablish notability, regardless of that I wouldn't close a AfD for an article that I had cooperated to or that is within the scope of any project that I have a mebership with to avoid a WP:COI. I am very familiar with the guidelines you mentioned. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  23:34, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


 * As for AFD discussions, the candidate has stated that: I can also help with the closing procedure in those discussions that involve a proven hoax, a obvious case of nonsense or a clear case of consensus per WP:SNOW. If the candidate sticks to these words, I don't foresee a problem with these issues. But that's my opinion. - Mtmelendez (Talk 01:18, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Maxim, it's his own opinion. <font color="Blue"> Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake)  04:16, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Neutral
 * Neutral There's a sour taste in my mouth about this candidacy. My instincts are picking up something that tell me supporting you will be a bad idea, however, no offense is intended. I can't oppose purely on this, and expect me to ask so more questions later on.  Maxim (talk)  22:58, 4 September 2007 (UTC)


 * 1) Neutral I think your main space edits are great and that's what we're here to do, but the problems stated by Maxim are troubling. I'm sitting on the fence for now. <font color="#777">~  <font color="#888">Wi <font color="#bbb">ki <font color="#aaa">her <font color="#ccc">mit  00:01, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * # So, at the moment, if you become an administrator you will help with the backlogs at AIV and close AFDs... is that all you will be doing? If you'll be helping out in more places than those specified, I'd like to hear about it.  Sebi  [talk] 05:36, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Naturally I would cooperate in more than two places, WP:AN and WP:COI/N usually get some interesting cases, specially the COI noticeboard wich presents some cases that need some detective skills, attending those conflicts could prove a interesting challenge. Boards such as and WP:AN3RR, WP:RFPP and WP:UFA will receive my attention also, though I will try to get the hang of things before editing within that areas heavily. I have always been a multifacetical editor and I hope to keep up with that. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  06:19, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The areas you'll be working in should be specified in your answer to Q1, rather than in a reply to a Neutral. I'd prefer not to be assumed to know the areas you'll work in.  Sebi  [talk] 06:31, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Most admins specialise in one or two areas where they will use the tools. I do quite a lot of username blocks and everything else is sporadic. Simply working at AIV and AfD are very legitimate area's to work in, many admins would concentrate on just one of those. I fail to see how you can withold support from a candidate because they state in Q1 that they will be doing what just about every other admin does.  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  07:09, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I see your point.  Sebi  [talk] 09:28, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * His upload log reveals some apparent copyright violations less than a month ago. I asked him about this on his talk page. I'll withhold judgment until he replies. – Quadell (talk) (random) 16:10, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Note - this is not a neutral vote. – Quadell (talk) (random) 22:12, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It was an accident, I copyed the tag from a image that has since been moved to commons wich had the same status, regardless I was under the imepresion that images on that site were public domain in nature. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  00:43, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * No, they aren't. They may be used publicly, but the copyrights of some images, including the ones you uploaded, are reserved. Therefore, they are copyvios. They should be deleted. --Boricuaeddie is now <font color="#1E90FF">Ag ü <font color="#1E90FF">eybaná  00:49, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah I told Quadell to delete them, the confusion arouse from all of the images claiming "public" in their description. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  00:51, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I understand. Anyway, Flickr images should be uploaded to the Commons, not here, so that they can be reviewed by trusted users there, like me. --Boricuaeddie is now <font color="#1E90FF">Ag ü <font color="#1E90FF">eybaná  00:55, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, it was just an honest mistake. (I've made that kind of mistake too, especially early on.) I'm a little hesitant about your image history and lack of familiarity with our non-free content policy -- you've uploaded lots of non-free images in the past that turned out to be out-of-policy and had to be deleted, and there are many more that are borderline. But that's certainly no reason to oppose your admin nom, since you seem like an honest guy and a quick learner. So long as you learn the details of our (complex and often misunderstood) non-free content policy before plunging into that area with your new tools, I'm sure you'll be a great admin. – Quadell (talk) (random) 01:17, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not really a plentiful image uploader as the log states I upload once in while, a little note the deleted DMC images weren't out of policy they were discarded by consensus because they were replaced when the articles were undergoing PR in the process of getting them to FA, the senzu bean image was deleted when the article was redirected. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  01:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
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