Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/JCarriker

User:JCarriker
Excellent contributor, been here about a year, thousands of edits. - Hephaestos|&#167; 02:48, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * I graciously accept. -JCarriker 02:50, Jun 17, 2004 (UTC)

Support
 * 1) Hephaestos|&#167; 02:48, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC) (assumed, forgot to vote)
 * 2) Cecropia | Talk 14:28, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC) I graciously approve. ;-)
 * 3) Support... even though adminship is just receiving flak and having a whole bunch of red buttons on your console you can't touch. --"D ICK " C HENEY  19:48, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * 4) older &ne; wiser 22:00, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC) Heh, you don't need to be an admin to catch a lot of flak around here.
 * 5) David Gerard 22:09, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * 6) Rhymeless 22:39, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * 7) Oberiko 00:23, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * 8) theresa knott 05:22, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * 9) Jiang 09:57, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC) certainly deserves it
 * 10) Acegikmo1 11:29, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC).  Theresa's questions brought up some of my own concerns and Jay's responses helped to convince me that he'll make a fine admin.
 * 11) Warofdreams 18:14, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * 12) Danny 01:45, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * 13) BCorr | &#1041;&#1088;&#1072;&#1081;&#1077;&#1085; 12:42, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * 14) Lst27 03:43, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * 15) Merovingian &#8597; T@Lk 01:16, Jun 21, 2004 (UTC)
 * 16) Cribcage 03:31, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * 17) Jwrosenzweig 16:11, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * 18) Davodd 21:36, Jun 21, 2004 (UTC)
 * 19) Michael Snow 00:11, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * 20) GeneralPatton 02:29, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * 21) Ilyanep 14:37, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC) One of the few names out of the 100000000000 people void that I recognize.

Oppose
 * 1) No offense personally to JCarriker. I just want to see more interactions with the community before I support. Kingturtle 02:06, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * None taken. Can you please elaborate on what type of community interactions your mean? It's specific enough to state your concerns, but not enough to let me know what I need to improve on. -JCarriker 08:48, Jun 23, 2004 (UTC)
 * You needn't improve on anything, per se. I'd just like to see more interactions with the community. As time passes, and you continue to work with the community, you will encounter more situations - and that will provide more examples of how you interact and react. Cheers, Kingturtle 19:21, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)

comments I hate to do this, but I feel I must.

I have a few questions for JCarriker. I get the impression he is a sensitive soul and I wonder if he knows the kind of flack he might come in for once he is an admin.


 * 1) How will you react if you find yourself  listed on "review of admin actions"?
 * 2) What if someone says you are part of an evil cabal?
 * 3) Or if someone vandalizes you user page or user talk page?
 * 4) What if another admin undoes something you did, accusing you of not following procedure?
 * 5) What if someone is very rude and agressive towards you when you were only trying to help them?

I'm not saying any of these things will happen, but they might. (I have had all this and more happen to me, and so have many other admins, but then I am very thick skinned) If they happen to you how will you feel about it?

I am also troubled by your "read this before posting" note on your talk page. It comes across as agressive.

Don't get me wrong. I think you are an excellent contributor of quality work. But I do think you haven't thought this through. You said not very long ago that you felt like a second class citizen here I don't want you to come under fire from some troublemaker accusing you of abuse of admin powers and then feel even worse. Admins need to be tough, very tough sometimes. Are you sure you want to be an admin? theresa knott 15:24, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * Please don't hate to do this, you have raised only valid points. I am very sensitive and I'm usuually open and honest with my feelings. I am actually a local political activist so I have actually had perosonal experience with many of the things you mentioned.


 * 1. How will you react if you find yourself listed on "review of admin actions"?
 * I will be open and honest as I usually am. I've had people I've known my entire life level much more hurtful allegations at me and I'm still active in politics.''
 * 2. What if someone says you are part of an evil cabal?
 * I enjoy evil cabals; especially when their members are of such high quality. I have also supposedly been a puppet for various mythical organizations in Marshall for years, so it wouldn't be the first time.''
 * 3. Or if someone vandalizes you user page or user talk page?
 * I've had some one vandalize my house after a political election, and changing my name from Jay to Gay is a common albeit annoying practice among my rivals. My user page is much more easily redeemed.''
 * 4. What if another admin undoes something you did, accusing you of not following procedure?
 * I'll react as I do now, by asking them why on there talk page before I take any action myself; preferably after reaching consensus. I'm usually a by the book kind of person, my policies should be in accordance with wiki's. I've actually had a page I created deleted, you can find my reaction here: please see: User_talk:Jiang
 * 5. What if someone is very rude and agressive towards you when you were only trying to help them?
 * I'll ask them to use wikiquette, and reiterate my statement. If that doesn't work I'll ask another party to step in, unless the situtation is too serious.
 * I am also troubled by your "read this before posting" note on your talk page. It comes across as agressive.
 * I'm sorry to here that, I certainly don't consider myself aggressive. I added the notice becuase my wikiquette posting seemed to be being ignored. There is also an extensive welcome section. Which parts do you find aggressive? I'm open to suggestions about how to improve it.
 * You said not very long ago that you felt like a second class citizen here I don't want you to come under fire from some troublemaker accusing you of abuse of admin powers and then feel even worse.
 * I've already been accused of being a racist on wikipedia, as a white Southerner I can't imagine a more hurtful and crafted attack. One of my primary reasons for feeling like a second class citizen was that after being at wiki for almost a year, I seemed to be a generally ignored figure. I decided that this was due to both the niche like nature of my work and have since started editng pages outside of that niche.
 * Are you sure you want to be an admin?
 * Yes, recieving adminship would signal that the community has confidence in me and that means a lot. It also makes it easier for me to combat vandalism when I come across it, something that is much more difficult without admin privelages.
 * I hope this answers your questions, I am of course still available for more answers and elaborations. I hope you will consider supporting me Theresa, but if you don't I know it's because you have my and wikipedia's best interests at heart.


 * -JCarriker 17:34, Jun 17, 2004 (UTC)


 * Thanks for answering my questions. I am very happy with your answers and have added my vote to support. As for the note on you user page, we'd best discuss it there. theresa knott 05:22, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)