Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/White Cat 2


 * The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a request for adminship that did not succeed. Please do not modify it. 

White Cat

 * (formerly Cool Cat)

(12/18/4) ended 09:44 30 October 2005 (UTC)

– Cool Cat removes vandalism a lot and has worked on a bot to find vandalism. As an admin Cool Cat could protect pages that are vandalised a lot. Revert vandalised pages faster and ban users that keep vandalising after warnings &#9786; A dam1213&#9786;  Talk+ 09:44, 23 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:
 * I decline. Thank you for your kind nomination but I do not believe I will ever qualify to what it takes to be an admin. --Cool Cat Talk 11:40, 23 October 2005 (UTC) As per Nlu's request, however I do not think this will work ;) --Cool Cat Talk 19:10, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Nope it didn't work, but there is some good out of it, at least no one is threatening to leave wikipedia like last rfa. --Cool Cat Talk 00:06, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Support
 * 1) 'I strongly support' Cool_cat for the reasons that I nominated him. 'I dont know anyone that should be an admin more than cool cat.' I think that there will be a total of 2 votes against him 30+ supporting. Please have a look at cool_cat's edits and his talk page and you will see why he should be an admin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adam1213 (talk • contribs)
 * 2) Strong support. Does way to much anti vandal work not to be an admin. What is everyone so afraid he's going to do if he is one?  Sasquatch  t|c 18:44, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Support. I know that he has declined but I hope he would reconsider.  Some might consider him "not admin material," pointing to his fiery temper and the such.  In my opinion, that is exactly what makes him admin material; admins have to be decisive and willing to act against vandalism.  --Nlu 18:51, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Support - great vandal fighter, would use rollback wisely. I'll admit he's not perfect, but he's not the kind of person that would abuse admin powers, so I don't see why it would matter. -- Phroziac ( talk )[[Image:Flag_of_Phyzech_Republic.svg|25px]] 19:38, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 5)  Support very strongly  I have nominated him before. V  /  M  20:05, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 6) Extreme CVU Support. N (t/c) 20:07, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 7) Support Tintin 20:09, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 8) Oh good. You decided to take it! Fir  e  Fo  x  20:13, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 9) Strong Support needs the extra admin buttons --JAranda &#124; watz sup 20:15, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Support. Cool Cat's got a grand idea in CVU, has amassed an impressive number of good edits, and unfortunately makes lots of typos, but who cares? Typos aren't related to vandal fighting, as far as I know. Just needs to eliminate mood swings. Don Diego 20:31, 23 October 2005 (UTC) Changed to neutral. Don Diego(Talk) 12:35, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Extreme Icy Feline Support Founder of CVU. All he needs now is his sopping wet mop. Ac  e  tic  ' Acid  20:34, 23 October 2005 (UTC) Changed to neutral.  Ac  e  tic  ' Acid  20:56, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Ultra support and much Wikilove. &hearts;&hearts;purplefeltang  e  l  &hearts;  &hearts;  20:37, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Support - Anyone who founds the CVU needs adminship. --Cel e stianpower háblame 20:59, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Support - Guettarda 13:06, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) If there's someone who cares about wikipedia and invests his time into keeping vandals away, is coolcat. He really deserves the guns and the mops -- ( drini's vandalproof page  &#x260E;  ) 06:11, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Oppose
 * 1) Oppose, of course; not admin material. &mdash; Davenbelle 09:53, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * This user is definitely adm. material, he has over 12,000 edits and is one of the most dedicated users I know. V  /  M  20:05, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * A high number of edits doesn't in itself make anyone admin material. -- Karl Meier 20:36, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I agree with Karl on this one. Edit count means nothing. -- Phroziac ( talk )[[Image:Flag_of_Phyzech_Republic.svg|25px]] 20:44, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Is that right? Funny how most admins. have more than a few thousand contribs. Plus, it is not all in the edit count - that is true.  12,000 edits is just a good indicator of his dedication to the site, even when he wants to leave, he seems to "suck it up" in a sense in order  to continue his services to the Wiki.  He has shown more than enough for me to support him.  V  /  M  21:06, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * NicholasTurnbull recently passed with around 700 edits. Also, if you are counting edits after they became admins, don't forget that adminship tends to make your editcount skyrocket. -- Phroziac ( talk )[[Image:Flag_of_Phyzech_Republic.svg|25px]] 21:25, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Oppose - user demonstrates a lack of thick skin, and an unfortunate tendency towards militarism. Snowspinner 20:10, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Define "militarism", Snowspinner. Kalashnikov Magnet 18:10, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
 * See: militarism. nb: Vandal. &mdash; Davenbelle 10:49, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Regretfully oppose.  Does not have the requisite temperament to be an admin.  Kelly Martin 20:11, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Oppose. Agree with Snowspinner and Kelly Martin. Carbonite | Talk 20:14, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Oppose. According to an ArbCom decision, the user is PoV editing, and is - for good reasons - restricted by the ArbCom in a number of ways. Cool Cat is not in any way admin material. -- Karl Meier 20:32, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Oppose due to the recent ArbCom decision and his behavior with the "Counter Vandalism Unit." Zach (Sound Off) 20:33, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 5) Oppose. This guy is completely the opposite of what an admin should be. Yesterday he said he was leaving Wikipedia due to a spat with Snowspinner. He was also involved in an RfC and an RfAr earlier this year. Not only is he a terrible mediator, but he has caused huge edit wars about Kurdish groups and accused almost everyone in #wikipedia of either being "out to get him" or trolling. This guy has constantly exhibited childish behavior every time I've run into him. He may have a ton of edits, but he's also been very disruptive. I would vote for SPUI before CoolCat. AngryParsley 20:37, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I hate to reply to my own comment, but a perfect example of the behavior I'm talking about just happened in #wikipedia. The log is on the talk page.  This is why I voted against CoolCat. The guy is obviously intelligent and interested in Wikipedia, but he keeps engaging in this childish behavior. Earlier this year he claimed to have invented the internet! AngryParsley 21:02, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't see the problem - he was saying that "I have power, but I'm not going to abuse it". It sounded like a threat at first, but proved to not be. You'll have to give a source on "invented the Internet", unless it's a bad joke. N (t/c) 21:06, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Incivility is a big problem, especially for an admin. I understand what Cool Cat was attempting to communicate, but he made the situation worse. An admin should always be looking for ways to settle a dispute rather than escalate it. Carbonite | Talk 21:11, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Vote for SPUI before Cool Cat? Ha that made me laugh --JAranda &#124; watz sup 22:07, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Oppose I find CoolCat quite a cool fellow. Unfortunately, he seems to be engrossed in a number of POV wars related to Turkey and the Kurds. He lacks equanimity. Also, I don't quite like the militaristic "counter vandalism unit". My impression is that he will make a find administrator some day, but that currently this is premature. David.Monniaux 20:45, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Oppose. While a good user, and someone who would do well with the tools, I'm concerned about the CVU, and I think his temperament is too negative. Ral315 (talk) 20:49, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) --Boothy443 | comhrá 20:51, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Oppose If we were terribly short on admins, Cool Cat would likely be high on my list of people I'd change my vote over with certian conditions (such as he not be involved in certan subject areas). Since we are not short admins, I see no need to admin someone whom we have to place conditions on their adminship. So it is with regret that I oppose the adminship of a hardworking editor whos only crime is a few blind spots. --Gmaxwell 20:54, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 5) Oppose. This line of chat bothered me:
 * The last line of the chat is what bothers me. Since when is AngryParsley a troll? He was merely stating the truth. --WikiFanaticTalk Contribs 16:16, 23 October 2005 (CDT)
 * To be fair it should be said that early this morning when AngryParsley first came into IRC and he heard Cool Cat had said he was leaving, he expressed happiness at the event, and cheerfully provided a pile of nonspecific criticisms of Cool Cat without even hearing about the situation. It's clear that Angry doesn't like him and if I were in Cool Cat's position I might also be somewhat more eager to call Angry a troll. --Gmaxwell 21:51, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Coolcat is on probation and is mentored, it would be reasonable to think that he should be given the chance to prove he can change during this probation period. After that, if he shows any changes, and above all, if he deal with his character instability we’ll see. First and foremost, one must be a good contributor before anything else, before being an Administrator, and Coolcat has now the chance to revaluate his participation and become a good and uncontroversial contributor. It would be a disservice to Coolcat to disturb his rehabilitation by granting him Adminship. Fadix 21:26, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Oppose per all above. freestylefrappe 21:34, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Oppose User is conflict-prone, not admin material. Xoloz 22:18, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Oppose. Unfortunately, the editor has gotten himself involved in an exceptional amount of conflicts, and thus should not be given sysop rights. --Sn0wflake 23:32, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 5) Oppose, he can probably become admin at some point in the future, but I'm not willing to grant adminship to someone who's under mentorship as result of an arbcom decision. - Mgm|(talk) 13:35, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 6) Oppose. When hell freezes over would be too soon. Coolcat is a regular edit warrior whose "mood swings" have cost us several editors, including one of the best we've ever had. I'd still personally rather see him banned. Ambi 00:30, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
 * You know, I've seen this mentioned several times, but nobody ever named any names. Care to give any examples on whom Cool Cat chased away?  --Nlu 04:48, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
 * see: Wikipedia Signpost/2005-06-27/Article blocking.
 * And? This article under this link has nothing to do with Cool Cat.  I asked for specific examples of Cool Cat chasing away editors.  If Cool Cat had something to do with RickK leaving, please clarify; otherwise, this is irrelevant.  --Nlu 13:05, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
 * In one of his notorious moods, CoolCat decided that adding a copyvio to Wikipedia would be fun. RickK tried to stop him before deciding that having to deal with this level of utter stupidity was a step too far. Ambi 07:51, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
 * No I cannot be held responsible for RickK's departure. No fair court will deliberately sentence someone for somebody elses actions. I did write the original material and did not know it was somewhat popular on the net. I did not provide copyvio info so as not to comprimise my identity, instead I rewrote the whole thing, making it more article like than burochure like.
 * Please, do not ever speak in my name, I never claimed/said/implied/decided that adding a copyvio to Wikipedia would be fun. I have notified WP:CP of tens of copy vio cases. I also wrote a bot that detects a good number of copy vio cases so I deserve some credit for even more copy vio reporting.
 * I have had and still dont have any conflict with RickK. In the incident RickK revert warred with User:SPUI not me. You cant provide a single diff of me reverting RickK. RickK also deleted the page without posting it on Cvio page and wait for 7 days. Given only one paragraph (2,3 sentences) on the entier page I think it is most certainly not the best desicion to delete the entier page. RickK should have listed it on Cvio page for 7 days as the new version was almost completely different from the first version. In any case I rewrote that paragraph later on (after digging the page from google chache with great effort). I needed someone to point out what was posing to be a copy vio. I simply rewote that section in a time period no more than 1-3 minutes (primarily because of lag).
 * -- Cool Cat Talk 08:16, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak oppose until candidate stops describing AfD nominations as "NN. D." which is not very informative and confuses the heck out of newbies. &mdash; J I P | Talk 10:58, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I was talking about the wrong user. &mdash; J I P | Talk 06:10, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Neutral
 * 1) Neutral Support- if it weren't for the Arbcom business, I would have no problem supporting CC, since my experiences working on the Oh My Goddess! article and on IRC have been uniformly positive. --Maru (talk) 20:51, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 2) Changed to Neutral I'm concerned about the outbursts I've witnessed on IRC. Ac  e  tic  ' Acid  20:56, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 3) Strong Neutral: If it was on content, my vote would be a Strong Support for Coolcat. If it was on behavior, my vote would be Strong Oppose. So, I guess it evens out. He's definately an asset to Wikipedia, but needs to work on his cool. Karmafist 21:58, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
 * 4) Changed to neutral. Cool Cat must control his mood swings before he can become an admin. Vandal busting has already been taken care of (in form of CVU), so a little patience will definitely not hurt. Don Diego(Talk) 12:35, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Comments
 * Some people have voted against cool_cat more than once. To my understanding you can only vote once for a person per rfa. -- &#9786; A dam1213&#9786; Talk+ 14:52, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Who opposed more than once? Could you be more specific than "some people"? Carbonite | Talk 14:55, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Please note that User:Davenbelle just added some info to the top of the RFA. I disagree with the edit so am moving to the comments section.


 * Requests for adminship/Coolcat
 * Requests for arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek

Ta bu shi da yu 12:47, 26 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I did add the link to the previous RfA &mdash; days ago, along with my original vote. User:Cool Cat added the link to the RfAr. I added a linebreak and bullets in the edit you're referring to (and I'm outta here with out further comment). &mdash; Davenbelle 11:11, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate

A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:
 * 1. What sysop chores, if any, would you anticipate helping with? (Please read the page about administrators and the administrators' reading list.)
 * A. Vanndal fighting. I do not want to venture into other areas just yet. I just want to be able to block sockpuppets of User:MARMOT and be able to edit my userpage (which got vandalised about 466 times so far) when its protected. --Cool Cat Talk 19:18, 23 October 2005 (UTC)


 * 2. Of your articles or contributions to Wikipedia, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?
 * A.
 * Starfleet Ranks and insignia: First complete page. I think it looks beultifull and is informative. I do not deserve all oif the credit User:Husnock deserves a greater credit and it was very very pleasant to work with him.
 * Ranks and Insignia of NATO: This was a did on my own. I never completed the Navy and Air Force etc ranks as this requires overwhelming time for just one user to handle (with over 1000 images that need to be uploaded). If I am offered assistance of course it can be done :)
 * Southeastern Anatolia Project Written from scratch. Looks nice and is informative. I'd like to note there was a copyvio contravercy regarding this.
 * Counter Vandalism Unit With about 50+ members I think this is a sucessfull ongoing project. I created it initialy just to paste my IRC vandal detection bot and gave the bot a fancy name: Counter Vandalism Unit. Essjay and several others gave the idea to make this more of a gathering ground. I think its nice.
 * Oh My Goddess!. I reorganised it and added sections in manyways redid the whole thing. I had some assistance as well, it was pleasant to work with other people.
 * --Cool Cat Talk 19:32, 23 October 2005 (UTC)


 * 3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
 * A. I havent been writing articles recently primarily because of my on going dispute with Davenbelle and Karl Meier (Stereotek). Nature of this dispute as far as Arbcom is concerned is avalible at: Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Coolcat, Davenbelle and Stereotek. --Cool Cat Talk 19:18, 23 October 2005 (UTC)