Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/-Ril-/Evidence

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01:15, 14 August 2005 (UTC) (opening statement)
Prior dispute resolution has not been attempted
 * There was no request for mediation at WP:RFM
 * There was no request for comment at WP:RFC (although one was added yesterday)


 * What happened.
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Evidence of frivolous speedy tagging
Thisis just a selection of Ril's recent speedy tagging that is disruptive and wastes others' time. These tags (from just these examples) were removed by no less than four separate editors. Notice the amounts of blue links here; none as of this writing, meaning no one else saw fit to speedy these. Sure, some of them are at VFD right now, and a few will be deleted, but also a few will be kept or merged. Also note that of the ones at VFD, few if any of them were done by Ril, but by others cleaning up after him. The point here is that none of these were uncontroversial, and he continues despite warnings (those diffs to follow).


 * 08:49, August 4, 2005
 * Tags The Fuzz as "vanity". No such CSD.


 * 08:00, August 4, 2005
 * Tags Miss Rumphius as "vanity/advertising". No such CSD.


 * 08:04, August 4, 2005
 * Tags Halifax Common as "not notable". No such CSD.


 * 08:47, August 4, 2005
 * Tags Engers as "non notable + minimal content". No such CSD.


 * 08:47, August 4, 2005
 * Tags Enclosed mall as "advert". No such CSD.


 * 07:57, August 4, 2005
 * Tags Henry C.K. Liu as "vanity". No such CSD.


 * 09:28, August 6, 2005
 * Tags Crackington Haven as "advert". No such CSD.


 * 13:22, August 6, 2005
 * Tags Mega Man X Collection as "advert/crystal ball". No such CSD. It later survived VFD as a unanimous keep.


 * 13:19, August 6, 2005
 * Tags CHERUB Forums as "advert". No such CSD.


 * 10:24, August 6, 2005
 * Tags King Danny Wallace I as "not notable & vanity". No such CSD.


 * 10:12, August 6, 2005
 * Tags Dying To Live as "vanity". No such CSD.


 * 09:56, August 6, 2005
 * Tags Ultimate Gaming Machine (UGM) as "advert - see especially end of article". No such CSD.


 * 10:03, August 15, 2005
 * And it continues. In the midst of this arbitration case, Ril just tagged a user page User:SANNIE, created by that same user, for speedy. There is absolutely no criterion for this, and it is way overboard.

Repeated warnings

 * 10:31, August 4, 2005
 * First warning (Dmcdevit·t).


 * 20:17, August 4, 2005
 * Ril continuesdespite warning. Second warning (Dmcdevit·t again).


 * 20:19, August 4, 2005
 * Ril's unsatisfactory response (refuses to address CSD issue).


 * 21:29, August 4, 2005
 * Third warning (Smoddy agrees and clarifies Dmcdevit's point).


 * 11:52, August 6, 2005
 * After much pointless discussion, an uninvolved fourth warning (Kappa).


 * 15:25, August 6, 2005
 * Fifth warning (Kappa again).


 * 06:34, August 7, 2005
 * Sixth warning (Dmcdevit·t).


 * 08:41, August 7, 2005
 * Ril responds by insinuating I want ads in Wikipedia, missing the point of the difference between CSD and VFD. At this point he stops responding to our concerns.

Evidence of Ril removing others' comments
I recently noticed, when he started deleting the commentsof others on Uninvited Company's RFC, that Ril has a long history of simply removing comments that he disagrees with or make him look bad. This is not limited simply to his user talk page (though it would be egregious enough there) but other talk pages, RFCs, and VFDs.

User talk:-Ril-

 * August 14, 2005
 * This is from just today. When Raul notified Ril of this arbitration case, he deleted thenotice within four minutes.


 * 19:50, August 11, 2005
 * Noitall complainsabout Ril's stalkng, and Ril deletes the comment within the same minute.


 * 20:01, August 11, 2005
 * User:Voice of All(MTG) restores the comments and warns Ril.


 * 20:06, August 11, 2005
 * Ril deletes Noitall's (restored) comments, again, and Voice of All's warning two minutes after he makes them.


 * 20:10, August 11, 2005
 * Voice of All restores his and Noitall's comments again.


 * 20:13, August 11, 2005
 * Ril deletes the comments a third time, and the warning a second time, stating in the edit summary that he has "banned" Noitall from his talk page.


 * 05:43, August 8, 2005
 * Admins Sverdrup, El C, Evil Monkey, and Jimflbeak, apparently all having been contacted by Ril through email, all decline to unblock him for his latest 3RR violation.


 * 09:45, August 8, 2005
 * Ril deletes all four of their comments without an edit summary.


 * 03:38, August 9, 2005
 * Admin RedWordSmith also gets an email from Ril and declines to unblock.


 * 19:14, August 9, 2005
 * Uninvited Company restored the deleted list of admins who declined to unblock.


 * 01:53, August 10, 2005
 * Another admin, Rhymeless, was also contacted and declines.


 * 13:38, August 10, 2005
 * Ril again removes the (now longer) list and accuses Uninvited Company of being a troll.


 * 14:46, July 30, 2005
 * While discussing one of Ril's blocks for disruption, he deletes Carbonite's remark within minutes and without comment.


 * 15:01, July 30, 2005
 * After Carbonite restores it, Ril deletes the comment again, two minutes later. Still no reason given.

Requests for comment/UninvitedCompany

 * 18:11, August 10, 2005
 * Ril deletes Noitall's statement on the RFC, even though he is directly involved as the one Ril edit warred with to getthe 3RR block.


 * August 10, 2005
 * After Noitall puts the statement back in, Ril revertsit again.


 * 14:17, August 11, 2005
 * Another editor quotes the comments given by the six administrators that declined to unblock. Ril deletes it four minutes later, citing the rather unconvincing reason that the other is "faking others' signatures".


 * 14:36, August 11, 2005
 * The comments are put back in and Ril deletes them again in ten minutes with the same reason in the edit summary, but in all caps.


 * 16:08, August 11, 2005
 * Noitall put's his statement back in and Ril deletes it again.

Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/UninvitedCompany

 * 21:06, August 11, 2005
 * Noitall comments about all the reverts on the RFC talk page. Ril deletes it nine minutes later calling him a troll.


 * 21:18, August 11, 2005
 * Noitall restores his comment and Ril deletes it again within five minutes, calling him a troll.


 * 00:59, August 14, 2005
 * Dmcdevit restores the comments and Noitall adds a note about Ril's new RFC, but Ril deletes them again, calling us trolls and calling the benign comments personal attacks.


 * 01:07, August 14, 2005
 * User:Splash restores the comments and Ril deletes themagain within five minutes, citing personal attacks and calling us all trolls again.

Votes for deletion/Authentic Matthew (inconcluded)
Ril nominated the article Authentic Matthew for deletion three times. Throughout he tried to engineer it so that it would result in a deletion, despite the lack of consensus. The last VfD subpage was deleted out of hand for disruption, it was a day after the second had closed.


 * 19:30, July 15, 2005
 * Ril deletes User:Poorman's comment about original research.


 * 10:09, July 16, 2005
 * Ril deletes two other's comments (one from the author) that disagreed with him, unilaterally moving one to the talkpage without a reason.


 * 07:45, July 17, 2005
 * The author's comments are restored and Ril deletes them again without comment.


 * 11:51, July 17, 2005
 * The author's comments are restored a thirdtime and Ril deletes them.


 * 16:16, July 18, 2005
 * Original author adds a single sentence, and Ril deletes it saying this is "not the place for an essay," which ironically takes him more words to say than he deleted.


 * 16:16, July 18, 2005
 * Ril deletes the author's original statement afourth time.


 * 07:39, July 19, 2005
 * The original author's comments are restored and Ril deletes them a fifth time.


 * 20:48, July 19, 2005
 * The comments are restored and Ril deletes them a sixth time, saying "please behave".


 * 08:01, July 20, 2005
 * Ril deletes the comments for a seventh time. Apparently his only reason is that it is too long.


 * July 20, 2005
 * Ril deletes it an eighth time.


 * 06:33, July 21, 2005
 * Ril deletes them for the ninth time.


 * 16:34, July 21, 2005
 * Ril deletes it ten times.


 * 23:53, July 21, 2005
 * Mel Etitis restores many of the comments lost along the way and makes a note about Ril's behavior to the closing admin. Ril deletes it all again (number 11) and Mel's note.

Evidence of 3RR violations

 * 23:00, July 9, 2005
 * Blocked for a major 3RR, 7 reverts on one page and more reverts on others. Ril constantly claims that the block was removed as inappropriate, but as Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive34 shows, it was removed by Theresa Knott because he promised to stop warring, not because it was inappropriate.


 * 01:27, July 25, 2005
 * Blocked again for 3RR. See here. Ril likes to claim that El C only blocked him because he was "high on codeine" and thatthiswasthe only time he was not unblocked (see his initial statement). But El C has has said thatit was completely appropriate and an obvious 3RR, see this statement on -Ril-'s RFC.


 * 01:18, August 7, 2005
 * UninvitedCompany blocks Ril for 72 hours for his third 3RR which involved 13 reverts ( Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive39, note it is apparently impossible to put a link here because Ril's signature inserts my signature in the middle of the link. It has to be nowiki'ed). -Ril- has since RFC'd UninvitedCompany for this, but the community has shown overwhelming agreement with UninvitedCompany's actions (Requests_for_comment/UninvitedCompany).


 * 21:32, August 11, 2005
 * During this RFAr Ril violates 3RR on George W. Bush and is blocked for 24 hours. See Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RR (note it is apparently impossible to put a link here because Ril's signature inserts my signature in the middle of the link. It has to be nowiki'ed).

Sockpuppets used to evade a block
After the latest block, Ril created a large number of sockpuppets to evade the block and spam admins' talk pages. So far, the those accounts blocked for being a Ril sockpuppet are:

Persistent edit warring
Below is a list of pages that -Ril- has reverted multiple times in the last few weeks. - SimonP 04:35, August 14, 2005 (UTC)


 * Matthew 1 - July 9
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,


 * Matthew 2 - July 9
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5


 * Matthew 3 - July 9
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3, 4


 * Matthew 4 - July 9
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,


 * John 15 - July 9
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6


 * John 20 - July 9
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3, 4


 * The meek shall inherit the earth - July 9
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5


 * Blessed are the peacemakers - July 9
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3, 4


 * Blessed are the peacemakers - July 9
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3, 4


 * Psalm 104 - July 10 - 11
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5


 * Psalm 51 - July 10
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3


 * Psalm - July 10
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3


 * Missing sun motif - July 11 to 20
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3, 4,


 * Zoroastrianism - July 12-17
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9,


 * Authentic Matthew - July 13
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,


 * Votes for deletion/Authentic Matthew - July 17
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7


 * The Bible and history - July 23 to 27
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9,


 * Bible verses - July 24
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3, 4


 * Zoroastrianism (second time) - July 30 - 31
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3


 * Canaan - August 2
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5


 * Religious conflict and Islam - August 6
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10


 * Requests for comment/UninvitedCompany - August 10 to 11
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5


 * The Bible and homosexuality - August 11 to 13
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3,


 * George W. Bush - August 12
 * Reverts: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Evidence presented by Radiant_ &gt;|&lt;
Judging by behavior, was used as a sockpuppet to evade a block. Radiant_ &gt;|&lt; 14:46, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

See also, , , and User:=Ril=. --Doc (?) 10:15, 29 September 2005 (UTC)