Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Alfrem/Evidence

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Evidence presented by Ta bu shi da yu

 * 1) 03:56, 22 June 2005
 * Alfrem removes political philosophy and changes it to philosophy. I reverted this because the only edit summary is "-POV"
 * 1) 17:53, 22 June 2005.
 * Alfrem again removes political philosophy and changes it to philosophy with the edit summary "-POV"
 * Note: in the interest of fairness, Alfrem did comment on the talk page detailing why he removed the term. Time posted is 13:04, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) 23:05, 22 June 2005
 * Alfrem removes term again.
 * 1) 22:53, 23 June 2005
 * Alfrem reverts, removing term again
 * 1) 01:52, 24 June 2005
 * Happens again.
 * 1) Ta bu shi da yu adds a footnote - somewhere in those edits, I added a footnote to source our references to political philosophy.
 * 2) 16:31, 24 June 2005
 * Term removed again by Alfrem.
 * 1) 16:50, 24 June 2005
 * Term removed again, this time Alfrem states that "Libertarianism is a philosophy which is completely based on one axiom - the non-aggression principle."
 * 1) 19:20, 25 June 2005
 * Alfrem removes the footnote that sources the term political philosophy!
 * 1) 04:41, 26 June 2005
 * Alfrem removes footnote sourcing political philosophy again. Edit summary: "no useless fotenote please, see discussion".
 * 1) 02:42, 27 June 2005
 * Removes footnote again: edit summary "Notes and references - -POV"
 * 1) 02:47, 27 June 2005
 * Alfrem removes "political philosophy" again, replaces it with "Libertarianism is a anti-political philosophy". ref template is not removed, this still sources it as a political philosophy! This is disruptive: we look ridiculous because of it. Also, no sources are provided by Alfrem.
 * 1) 09:18, 27 June 2005
 * Alfrem removes term "political philosophy" again
 * 1) 09:19, 27 June 2005
 * Alfrem removes reference to political philosophy. No edit summary given.
 * 1) 09:20, 27 June 2005
 * Alfrem removes ref tag.
 * 1) 19:21, 28 June 2005
 * Alfrem remove the footnote again
 * 1) 19:23, 28 June 2005
 * Alfrem removes the political philosophy term again.

Evidence presented by malathion
Since the arbitration was accepted and was temporarily banned from editing Libertarianism while the committee makes its final decision, he appears to be logging out so he can edit the article anonymously from a sockpuppet at.


 * 1) 03:48, 13 July 2005
 * Leaves a comment in Talk:Libertarianism as an anonymous user stating "Ta bu shi da yu blocked Alfrem 48 h and runs riot in the article. I am not clear by which right."
 * 1) 03:50, 13 July 2005
 * Ambiguates the lead with weasel language. No edit summary.
 * 1) 03:57, 13 July 2005
 * Reverts back to his version.
 * 1) 05:10, 13 July 2005
 * Reverts back to his version.

Evidence presented by Harry491 (Dave)
I've never been in an RFAr, so please forgive any deviation from the norm in my presentation of this information. I've tried to follow the same format as the above users.

Elections template
 * 1) 04:42, July 8, 2005
 * Removes a link to Libertarianism from the list of "modern political ideologies" on Template:Elections.
 * 1) 06:43, July 8, 2005
 * After he is reverted, he changes "modern political ideologies" to "political and non-political ideologies"
 * 1) 17:49, July 8, 2005
 * I suggest to the editors of the template that, given my past experience with Alfrem and libertarianism-related topics, "the best solution is to keep reverting him" until Arbcom takes care of him.
 * 1) July 8, 2005
 * Alfrem reverts
 * 1) 18:06, July 8, 2005
 * I revert, warning him that deleting comments constitutes vandalism
 * 1) 18:10, July 8, 2005
 * Alfrem reverts, quoting "the best solution is to keep reverting him."
 * 1) 18:13, July 8, 2005
 * Alfrem reverts again
 * 1) 02:53, July 9, 2005
 * Alfrem reverts again (4th revert) and is blocked by Ta bu shi da yu for 3RR on another article.

Additionally, Alfrem begins reverting any edit I make to the libertarianism article, whether it supports his position or not:
 * 1) 18:03, July 8, 2005
 * Alfrem reverts my deletion of a redundant template (which was changing rapidly, but looked approximately like this at the time)
 * 1) 18:11, July 8, 2005
 * After I delete it again, explaining that "2 templates is bad, and libertarianism links to politics already," Alfrem reverts, quoting "the best solution is to keep reverting him."
 * 1) 18:15, July 8, 2005
 * I revert, asking "Alfrem, why are you putting a politics template on a page you don't think is political?"
 * 1) 02:59, July 9, 2005
 * Alfrem stops reverting the template, but instead rewrites the lead to say "The libertarian political idea is the rejection of politics. Therefore it is a political philosophy. Libertarianism is favoring personal and economic liberty..." and removed the footnote.

Edit wars on other pages relating to libertarianism
 * 1) 04:04, June 30, 2005
 * Alfrem starts an edit war on Anarcho-capitalism with User:Saswann and User:Rhobite by deleting an important paragraph. In fairness, he has since made a useful contribution to the article.
 * 1) 7:36, June 29, 2005
 * One sample edit from a revert war with Rhobite and Saswann over whether a Geocities reference is worth putting into the aricle on non-aggression principle.