Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Case filed against Asian2duracell

I am reporting user Asian2duracell in regards to his coninuous sock puppeting, trolling, and personal attacks towards myself and others. My first mode of action was to engage him in civil dialogue (from user to user). Since that did not work a third party had monitored the situation to try to difuse the tension on Dravidian people. With Asian2duracell not complying my next step was to ask for advice at the Administrator's Noticeboard. I was then directed to report to the Mediation Cabal where I had reported Asian2duracell for his behavior. Since then, I haven't heard from them. So, finally, now I am reporting to you. Also, this user has been blocked twice before in violation of the 3RR.

Unsigned messages or Sockpuppetry
Here are a list of times he posted unacceptable messages to me and another user without posting his username in one message he admits to it:

Do we really need that...
From Asian2duracell: Someone ruined the hole article with his/her afrocentric view, why do people who even dont know what "Dravidian" is editing this article.... this article should be a reedited. finally there is no RACE called Dravidians...
 * 01:22, 6 January 2007 – unsigned

This site is about Tamil People
From Asian2duracell: If u have a problem that Indians use skin lightening creme or Dalits get treated worst by "High" Cast Indians, it's your thing. This is not a place where you can moan about the worlds problems. This page isnt about Bollywood either.


 * 20:58, 9 January 2007 – unsigned

hey
From Asian2duracell: Buddy much respect, but ur not Tamil. Ur definitely African. We dont want ur Afrocentrism in our Community. If u admire us so much, u can watch Tamil Movies, but stop making us looking Black. We are not Black. Ur POV is not wished


 * 21:08, 9 January 2007 – unsigned

From Asian2duracell: Okay it was false to say everyone in India is of the same race. Those people in NorthEast India may have some other admixture than those people in North or South India. But most People in India are mixed. Indus Valley is Indian, as England or France are European. See "Indian" as the Subcontinent not the country.


 * 21:54, 14 January 2007 – unsigned

smart boy
From Asian2duracell: “ When did we South-Indians get ripped off our Culture and Language Answer: The minute it was sold.Wiki Raja 02:02, 22 January 2007 (UTC) Do you know how much they paid us?...just asking, for the tax income authority.
 * 22:06, 22 January 2007 – unsigned

From Asian2duracell: haha ur talking about me, oh what an honour. I'm sorry I didnt signed the post, WikiRaja. It was ofcourse me. But that ARYAN818 guy is definitley not me. Hey Guys, or better deeceevoice, I think ur the last guy who should talk about "get blocked". Hey WikiRaja, tell me... nee ellam oru tamilana? edho oru karuppan oda sendhu, tamilarae patri ennennovo sollrae. Ithuvaraikum yaro oru tamilanae alladhu dravidarae nee pathirikeeya? Nee Tamil enda sollu, unda piranthae oor ethu endu. Allathu Tamile theriyathe? idhu varaikkum ungaludaya Asian2duracell 00:53, 22 January 2007 (UTC) :-)


 * 00:53, 22 January 2007

Personal & Uncivil Attacks

 * Also, below is a list of times this user has engaged in personal attacks towards me. He is making me feel uncomfortable on Wikipedia by assuming what ethnic background I am in his personal attacks and name calling. Also, referring to me as a “boy”. He is also making personal attacks towards me and worse attacks in Tamil on another user’s talk page. Furthermore, he has attacked other users including the use of foul language.

Do we really need that...
From Asian2duracell: And why do you care about that? I dont think ur "Dravidian" at all. The topic on Dravidians talk more about the Indo-Arya people Its because people seem to understand that there are actually not much diffrence between both ethnicities.
 * 21:51, 8 January 2007

hey
From Asian2duracell: Buddy much respect, but ur not Tamil. Ur definitely African. We dont want ur Afrocentrism in our Community. If u admire us so much, u can watch Tamil Movies, but stop making us looking Black. We are not Black. Ur POV is not wished
 * 21:08, 9 January 2007

smart boy
From Asian2duracell: “ When did we South-Indians get ripped off our Culture and Language Answer: The minute it was sold. Wiki Raja 02:02, 22 January 2007 (UTC) Do you know how much they paid us?...just asking, for the tax income authority.


 * 22:06, 22 January 2007

From Asian2duracell: haha ur talking about me, oh what an honour. I'm sorry I didnt signed the post, WikiRaja. It was ofcourse me. But that ARYAN818 guy is definitley not me. Hey Guys, or better deeceevoice, I think ur the last guy who should talk about "get blocked". Hey WikiRaja, tell me... nee ellam oru tamilana? edho oru karuppan oda sendhu, tamilarae patri ennennovo sollrae. Ithuvaraikum yaro oru tamilanae alladhu dravidarae nee pathirikeeya? Nee Tamil enda sollu, unda piranthae oor ethu endu. Allathu Tamile theriyathe? idhu varaikkum ungaludaya Asian2duracell 00:53, 22 January 2007 (UTC) :-)
 * 00:53, 22 January 2007

From Asian2duracell: since user ARYAN818 has been blocked due to bad conduct and user name, we haven't heard from Asian2duracell or Vandh lately.... so what? u think we're all the same? I'm here. And why should someone break the silence? Do you have something to say? If yes, write it on the talk page. U dont have to wait 'til we write back. Idhu varaikku Asian2duracell 21:11, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 21:11, 23 January 2007

From Asian2duracell: To clear the thing Me is a He. Well Vandh, I have to say we think very much the same. I'm a little bit shocked. Now I understand why WikiRaja thought we were the same. I started writing at the time all this afrocentric thing came into the article. So did other users.

From Asian2duracell: 'Just a simple question for you, whenever a person from Paksithan, India, SriLanka, Bangaldesh meet in a Foreign country they have an immediate affinity/oneness among themseleves. Do they do like that to any Africans? They know who they are related without studying any OLD text books.' .... well I couldnt have said it better. .... I would say thats because we all have a distingiush look.

From Asian2duracell: One thing to u WikiRaja. I noticed, on your Page, ur of Tamil ethnicity. Then why shouldnt we talk In Tamil? We are both of the same ethnicity, or arent we? Why use a foreign language if we are from the same country? Or arent u able to speak Tamil at all? ... I start thinking ur not tamil at all. Because of ur reaction to my comment. Asian2duracell 22:34, 25 January 2007 (UTC)


 * 22:34, 25 January 2007


 * User Asian2duracell has had a previous history of racially motivated attacks on other users listed below.

From Asian2duracell: what u mean by many do apply it? not even one out of 10000 would apply, that they are black, just get it. u probably never met any tamils, thats why u talk BS. i dont know where u live, but people on this planet associate the term "black people", with being of african origin. I agree these actors dont look like the average tamil man, but they still come closer than africans. take the skin color out, and they look like any tamil guy.


 * 7 October 2006 - unsigned

From Asian2duracell: who told you tamils are not east indian, u moron? Of course WE are. Who cares what Ghandi was, he wasnt punjabi or bengali either, or was he? Barathi was Tamil and Indian Poet, Thiruvalluvar was a Tamil Indian writer. so what? every community has its own cultural heroes. Tamils are not East Indians, they do not politically or culturally agree with each other First of all, u kidding right? Everything typical Indian is Tamil (Barathanatyam, Carnatic, Sari, Lungi, Rice & Curry) So u may tell me what Tamils and Negroes have incommen u cunt... Please get a life, and get the fuçk out of these afrocentric sites.. Black Asians are going to have to get over trying to find comfort in denying who they really are. Black asians...LOL who are they, ur mom and ur dad? ..Tamils, Siddi, Dravidians, etc) will have the freedom to express themselves... Yo brother, what do u know about tamil or dravidian history in general? seems like u know nothing. WE tamils had empires back to the Chola, Cera, Pandya and Pallava times, as far as southeast-asia. We had our freedom to do what, we wanted to do. And we still have. Please speak for urself if u feel limited in ur freedom. Finally please Nigga, go listen to some jungle bungle sound and leave such shitty comments.


 * 17:44, 9 October 2006 – unsigned

to the LAST TIME TAMILS ARE NOT BLACK, U MORONS
From Asian2duracell: i dont know how many times we have to explain it to u people. But u still wont understand, that there is no relationship in any sense between Africans (blacks) and Tamils (brown). TAMILS ARE FU-KIN CAUCASOID, putting pictures of kids whith dark skin (which is still way fairer than that of an african) wont change anything. I can post pics of fair skinned kids aswell, but it wont help the situation. Please dont believe everything u see or read in the internet, go out and talk to the people. At least take a look at them to judge, and not pictures u see in Websites. the informations u bring to clarify tamils as black, is very low. Someones own oppinion is not a serious proof. If one tamil guy thinks he is black, than its his own oppinion, most dont agree whith him. Believe me i know what I m talkin about because I'M TAMIL. And dont come with genetic evedinces, all genetic test show that tamils cluster with other East Indians. THATS FACT!!! I think about writing to the ADMIN of this site, if this nonesense wont stop. I wouldn't care much, if this site wasnt a free source for people, who are actually interested in getting true informations. So please kick the Tamil part out of it.. or we gonna see whats gonna happen next.
 * 18:08, 9 October 2006 – unsigned

From [user:Asian2duracell|Asian2duracell]]: PLEAS DONT TELL ME U DELETED MY POST...


 * 18:11, 9 October 2006 – unsigned

From Asian2duracell: brother u, me and everyone else know, that claiming tamils as blacks is afroncentric BS. They dont have any sources. I think its a bad think for U'r people, try to associate with us than being proud of what u are.


 * 19:12, 9 October 2006 - unsigned

This user also has a history of not posting his name in other messages below:

From Asian2duracell: Burmese Indians also speak an array of different languages. There are Tamils, Punjabis, Parsis, Gujaratis and Marawaris as well as Bengalis and Pathans. Most can only communicate in Burmese, due to years of assimilation and lack of education in languages other than English. However, small segments of the population can speak other languages, such as Urdu, Hindi, Tamil, and Arabic.
 * 22:06, 15 October 2006 – unsigned

From Asian2duracell: The Dravidians or South Indians are not so different from the North Indians as to form a completley different race. The Dravidians too have caucasiod skull structure and like the North Indians are members of the Mediterranean subgroup of the Caucasian race.
 * 20:18, 1 December 2006 - unsigned

My polite response & warnings to Asian2duracell
User Asian2duracell has failed in the past to listen to the several polite warnings. He has also been blocked on 10:04, 10 January 2007 by admin for vandalism and a 3RR violation. This user needs to be blocked from further editing. It seems that he does not take advise and warnings seriously and is adamant on his POVs and forcing them down people's throats, thus making Wikipedia his propoganda machine. Instead of contributing to these pages, he engages in racially motivated personal attacks, foul language, and constant sock puppeting. He is not participating in legitimate problem solving debate with other users, but attacks. Furthermore, most of his posts often contradict each other. Therefore, with all these put together, it shows that he is involved in trolling.

Your inappropriate comments on Talk:Dravidian people
From Asian2duracell: And why do you care about that? I dont think ur "Dravidian" at all. The topic on Dravidians talk more about the Indo-Arya people Its because people seem to understand that there are actually not much diffrence between both ethnicities. It would be better for u and everyone else if u let others, who atleast know a little bit, write this article. Rather than writing ur own POV.Asian2duracell

From myself, Wiki Raja to [user:Asian2duracell|Asian2duracell]]: FYI: I have studied broadly on Dravidian civilizations and various other cultures. Whether one is Dravidian or not should not be an issue in regards to contributing to any article on Wikipedia. This is an academic site and not a personal blog page. Please treat it as such. Also, please refrain from personal attacks and incivil remarks when communicating with other users on Wikipedia. Thank you. Wiki Raja 22:43, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


 * 22:52, 8 January 2007

From myself, Wiki Raja to [user:Asian2duracell|Asian2duracell]]: To the anonymous user: This is not a place for personal abuse of other people's cultures. Please refrain from attacks and intolerant POVs towards other users and other users ethnic, religous, and/or national backgrounds. Thank you. Wiki Raja 23:33, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 23:35, 8 January 2007

From myself, Wiki Raja to [user:Asian2duracell|Asian2duracell]]: In the first place there are no quotes which are "Arocentric". I am not saying that Tamils are directly African, or European, or Asian, or what not. Just like the people of Northern India are not considered Iranians from Iran, but they are related to the people of Iran. Likewise with the Tamils and other Dravidians, there are a lot of similarities between us(including myself who is also an ethnic Tamil) and the people of East Africa and Australia in certain physical features, customs, and religion. As an educational pointer, before Hinduism was introduced to the early Dravidians our ancestors practiced Animism which was a form of nature worship by the early Nagas and Yakshas. Animism is also practiced amongst the aboriginals of Australia and in some parts of Africa. In southern India there have been found many types of weapons excavated called Valaris [] which resemble the boomerangs used in Australia. Also in certain parts of Kerala and Sri Lanka you will find aboriginal Veddas [] []. These are facts that we cannot run away from, even if some of us are ashamed of it or not. As for putting sources in regards to the similarities the Dravidians share with the groups from Africa and Australia, there is nothing controversial about that. It almost sounds like in your messages that African culture is bad, negative, and perhaps inferior. Live and let live. We are all created equal even though we may all be of different ethnicities. Therefore, in my quotes, we are all one race, and that is the human race. Lastly, Please refrain from attacks and intolerant POVs towards other users of different ethnic, religous, and/or national backgrounds. Thank you. Wiki Raja 02:30, 9 January 2007 (UTC)


 * 03:19, 9 January 2007

Asian2duracell's response to my warnings & my last response
Since the last time I reported Asian2duracell for his unruly behavior, he sent me a couple of threatening message on the following dates:

from Asian2Duracell with love
From Asian2duracell: hey WikiRaja, how are u? I've read some comments made by u on other users comment-side. There are alot of complaints about u. It seems like u are going to warn everyone who is not on ur "side", or everyone who doesnt share ur oppinions. I know made complaints about me, but didnt once talked to me about that issue. How I know that?.. just google my username. However I dont care. Come back to te Dravidian Topic. I think u missunderstood something important with this topic. I saw that on that ARYAN818 guy's page. Not any "Non-Aryan" is a Dravidian. And "Untouchables" are not Dravidian either. A Dalit from UP is "Aryan". A Brahmin of TN is ,like u call us, "Dravidian". Because they speak that language. When did we South-Indians get ripped off our Culture and Language? Or can u atleast say how that culture was "before" the Indo-Aryans destroyed our culture? U make a lot of comments about Ethiopians and Australian Aboriginies. U sometimes mentioned that we look like those people. I'm not sayin, NO WE DONT LOOK LIKE THEM HELL NO. Some may look like them but most dont. I know what I'm talking about, trust me. But I dont understand what that has anything to do with South-Indians. Some Mexicans, some Iranians, some NorthAfricans, some Cubans, some SouthEastAsians, even some SouthernEuropeans look like Tamils. I hope u know what I'm going to say. Look has nothing to do with Race. Tamils are mixed people, so Tamils come in all variations. But it's generally accepted that majority are of Caucasian heritage. (reffering to that picture you posted in Aryan818'spage, showing the guy on left side). Asian2duracell 01:40, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


 * 01:40, 22 January 2007

From Asian2duracell: haha ur talking about me, oh what an honour. I'm sorry I didnt signed the post, WikiRaja. It was ofcourse me. But that ARYAN818 guy is definitley not me. Hey Guys, or better deeceevoice, I think ur the last guy who should talk about "get blocked". Hey WikiRaja, tell me... nee ellam oru tamilana? edho oru karuppan oda sendhu, tamilarae patri ennennovo sollrae. Ithuvaraikum yaro oru tamilanae alladhu dravidarae nee pathirikeeya? Nee Tamil enda sollu, unda piranthae oor ethu endu. Allathu Tamile theriyathe? idhu varaikkum ungaludaya Asian2duracell 00:53, 22 January 2007 (UTC) :-)
 * 00:53, 22 January 2007

RE:From Asian2duracel with love
From Asian2duracell: It seems like u are going to warn everyone who is not on ur "side", or everyone who doesnt share ur oppinions. I know you made complaints about me, but didnt once talked to me about that issue.

From myself, Wiki Raja in response to [user:Asian2duracell|Asian2duracell]]: I will have to disagree with you on this since I warn those who break the rules of Wikipedia and mistreat others including myself. Also, regarding those whose opinions may differ from mine at times, I have had open dialogue with them and resolved any misunderstandings. Furthermore, I have also had open dialogue with ARYAN818  here including with you  here, here, and here. As for Vandh, I have had open dialogue with him here and with an anonymous user who started posting the same date as Vandh here. However, with the latter three users, have had nothing but insults, acusations, name calling, personal attacks, and arrogance from all three of you. It seems the further I discuss things in a logical way with you all, it just gets worse. Do you expect me to sit back and take all of this abuse? Are certain users on Wikipedia exempt from rule breaking and abuse of other users? As for ARYAN818, I have offered the olive branch to him and even suggested that we work together collectively here

From Asian2duracell: Not any "Non-Aryan" is a Dravidian. And "Untouchables" are not Dravidian either. A Dalit from UP is "Aryan". A Brahmin of TN is ,like u call us, "Dravidian". Because they speak that language. When did we South-Indians get ripped off our Culture and Language? Or can u atleast say how that culture was "before" the Indo-Aryans destroyed our culture? U make a lot of comments about Ethiopians and Australian Aboriginies. U sometimes mentioned that we look like those people. I'M NOT SAYING, NO WE DONT LOOK LIKE THEM, HELL NO.

From myself, Wiki Raja in response to [user:Asian2duracell|Asian2duracell]]: You are correct. Not every "Non-Aryan" is a Dravidian since we have the Mon-Khmers of Assam, Nagaland, Manipur and other states of Eastern India. I disagree with you that "Untouchables" are not Dravidian, since there are "Untouchables" throughout the sub-continent, or at least within the borders of India. Answer to your question about South-Indians getting ripped off of our Culture and Language, Sangam literature such as the Purunanuru, Silappadikaram, Manimekalai, Thirukkural are being forgotten. By the way, on the Dravidian people page, Sangam literature is described as "Tamil lore". WOuld we consider the Vedas of the Indo-Aryans just a simple folk lore? or the writings of Shakespere, Ovid, or Homer who wrote the Illiad simple folk lore? I don't think so. Also, there is a tendency to credit the mythological character of Agastya for teaching the Dravidians how to read, write, think, fight, and even speak! Furthermore, Sanskrit has been given higher priority than the indigenous languages of Tamil, Kannada, Telugu, and Malayalam. I am in no way putting Sanskrit down or any other language, culture, or history down. I am just answering your questions. There was literally a fist fight in parliament back in 2004 over getting Tamil to be recognized as the second classical language of India. The accepting of caste system discrimination. Ex: after the tsunami, "Untouchables" were forced to wait at the back of the line for aid and pick up dead bodies. Discrimination against Dalits (Untouchables) during the tsunami relief took place in both Tamil Nadu and Kerala There is much more I can say, but that would be a book. Yes, I do make mention of East Africans and native Australians of the possiblity of a connection with the Dravidians thousands of years ago in regards to anthropology. There is evidence in ancient Tamil literature such as the Silappadikaram and Manimekalai, mother nature which was the 2004 tsunami (this was the fourth tsunami in the history of South Asia, and archeological evidence of sunken cities (for example the 7 pagodas of Mammalapuram (Mahabalipuram - Sanskritzed name), 6 of which are buried in the Bay of Bengal) . Finally, for the last time, I'm going to ask you to refrain from yelling in your messages (typing in all caps) and using abusive curse words. Wiki Raja 22:50, 24 January 2007 (UTC)


 * 01:44, 25 January 2007

Conclusion
With Asian2duracells strong POVs he insists in continuous reversions and deletions from the Tamil people, Dravidian people, and Black people pages. When engaged in polite debateable discussion, he resorts to insults, foul language, and racially motivated slurs. When warned, he accuses and rebukes me. When he is reported, he sends threatening messages to our talk pages. During all these, he continues with his vandalism and trolling of these three pages. Asian2duracel has proven himself to be a troll, sockpuppet, and a vandal. All of these to which constitute to being a trouble maker and a hinderance to further editing and contributions made by other users to Wikipedia.