Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Dyslexic Agnostic

Case Opened on 02:38, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Case Closed on 14:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Please do not edit this page directly unless you wish to become a participant in this request. (All participants are subject to Arbitration Committee decisions, and the ArbCom will consider each participant's role in the dispute.) Comments are very welcome on the Talk page, and will be read, in full. Evidence, no matter who can provide it, is very welcome at /Evidence. Evidence is more useful than comments.

Arbitrators will be working on evidence and suggesting proposed decisions at /Workshop and voting on proposed decisions at /Proposed decision.

Statement by Dyslexic agnostic
I will try to keep this on point.
 * Firstly, I will state that I challenge anyone to show me an edit I have done of T-Man that was not an improvement of his prior edit. Full reversions were only done when T-Man's changes were done without consensus or were effectively unintelligible, and those steps were supported by others.
 * I do regret some strong wording on my part in wiki talk pages and in edit descriptions; the frustration in dealing with this individual is sometimes difficult to contain. I would have appreciated a direct warning that my comments would lead to a 24-hour block; I did not receive such warnings, and I do not think that this counts.
 * The statement which led to my block, here, was strong but related directly to the extreme edits on Enemies of Batman. T-Man's tone of disrespect and rudeness with his "trivia lesson" here (his "fun massacre" of an "amature", as he puts it) towards the good-natured edits by Gillespee is quite unfortunate, and properly dealt with by Pc13 here.
 * I do wish to note that I too have put up with frequent insults and rudeness from T-Man, including this friendly comment and this Shakespearean prose... oh, and who can forget this gem, or this. I don't appreciate profanity on my talk page, which is why I frequently delete T-Man's comments to me.
 * Here's his very first message to me, highlighting his two obsessions: proving that Batman is straight and the so-called "Bat-embargo" (voted for deletion once, brought back without consensus by T-Man, and then voted out again.
 * Benon claims I am stalking T-Man... I urge you all to see that I do far more than follow this man. Who followed me to Batman? Who came unasked on my tails do get involved in the whole Limited series matter, moving pages so often that no one knew what happened?
 * I will tone it down. But I will not allow T-man to leave his damaged goods on pages which are important to me. If that is stalking, then impose the appropriate punishment.  But I draw your attention to Harassment:  Wikistalking does not include checking up on an editor to fix errors or violations of Wikipedia policy, nor does it mean reading a user's contribution log; those logs are public for good reason. The important part is the disruption - disruption is considered harmful.
 * Final word: I just want to edit. Dyslexic agnostic 06:42, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Further Statement by DA
Wow... I have no idea as to what is all involved here. I guess I've made my statement above, plus some comments which have been moved to this talk page. I've also spoken recently with T-man about working together, and the fact that I am not stalking him: please see here and here, and also his comments to me on my talk page. I guess that's it... I'll keep editing until I'm told I can't anymore. Wikipedia is a great place, and I enjoy coming here to edit, so I hope I don't get banned for life or something. I also hope T-Man doesn't get into trouble. Dyslexic agnostic 02:54, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Statement by T-Man, the Wise Scarecrow
(Please limit your statement to 500 words)

Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter (8/0/0/0)

 * Accept. The depth of some of the personal attacks cited above is quite worrying. James F. (talk) 14:00, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Accept. Sam Korn (smoddy) 16:38, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Accept. Mackensen (talk) 19:35, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Accept. SimonP 20:57, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Accept ➥the Epopt 03:13, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Accept. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 16:24, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Accept. —Matthew Brown (T:C) 20:39, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Accept. Charles Matthews 17:48, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Temporary injunction (none)
=Final decision = All numbering based on /Proposed decision (vote counts and comments are there as well) =Proposed final decision=

Courtesy
1) Users are expected to be reasonably courteous to each other, see Civility and No personal attacks.


 * Passed 10 to 0 at 14:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Dispute resolution
2) When disputes arise users are expected to patiently negotiate, consult sources and other editors and, if necessary, follow the procedures in Resolving disputes


 * Passed 10 to 0 at 14:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Disruption
3) Users may be banned or otherwise restricted for editing in a way that constitutes clear and intentional disruption.


 * Passed 10 to 0 at 14:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Edit wars
4) Edit wars or revert wars are considered harmful, because they cause ill-will between users and negatively destabilize articles. Editors are encourage to explore alternate methods of dispute resolution.


 * Passed 10 to 0 at 14:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Locus and adversaries
1) The locus of the dispute is Superman and Batman and concerns the edits and interaction of and . Dyslexic agnostic feels he has a duty to correct T-man, the Wise Scarecrow . T-man, the Wise Scarecrow has not appreciated the attention


 * Passed 10 to 0 at 14:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Discourtesy and personal attacks by T-man, the Wise Scarecrow
2) T-man, the Wise Scarecrow has been discourteous and has made egregious personal attacks, , , , , and . See also.


 * Passed 10 to 0 at 14:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

T-man, the Wise Scarecrow blocked for personal attacks
3) was blocked for one week for continued personal attacks . The block was extended to a month and his talk page protected after the attacks persisted.


 * Passed 10 to 0 at 14:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Discourtesy and personal attacks by Dyslexic Agnostic
4) Dyslexic Agnostic has been discourteous and made personal attacks, , , and.


 * Passed 10 to 0 at 14:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Disruption by T-man, the Wise Scarecrow
5) T-man, the Wise Scarecrow has disrupted Wikipedia, including blanking large sections of an article in dispute and making intentionally and blatantly provocative edits..


 * Passed 10 to 0 at 14:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

T-man has violated assume good faith
6) In response to overtures by Dyslexic Agnostic to make peace and, T-man responds  and.


 * Passed 10 to 0 at 14:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Edit wars
7) T-man, the Wise Scarecrow, and Dyslexic Agnostic have both engaged in edit warring in the articles in dispute, see for example.


 * Passed 10 to 0 at 14:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Remedies
Note: All remedies that refer to a period of time, for example to a ban of X months or a revert parole of Y months, are to run concurrently unless otherwise stated.

T-man, the Wise Scarecrow banned for six months
1) T-man, the Wise Scarecrow is banned from editing Wikipedia for 6 months for personal attacks and disruption.


 * Passed 8 to 0 at 14:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Per discussion on the Administrators' noticeboard, the ban shall not be enacted unless the mentorship agreement below fails. Ral315 (talk)

On 31 July 2006, Dmcdevit decided that the mentorship had failed, and enacted the ban. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 05:53, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

T-man, the Wise Scarecrow placed on personal attack parole
2) T-man, the Wise Scarecrow is placed on standard personal attack parole for one year. If he makes any edits which are judged by an administrator to be personal attacks, then he shall be temp-banned for a short time of up to one week. After five such blocks, the maximum block time is increased to one year.


 * Passed 10 to 0 at 14:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Dyslexic Agnostic placed on personal attack parole
3) Dyslexic Agnostic is placed on standard personal attack parole for one year. If he makes any edits which are judged by an administrator to be personal attacks, then he shall be temp-banned for a short time of up to one week. After five such blocks, the maximum block time is increased to one year.


 * Passed 10 to 0 at 14:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

T-man, the Wise Scarecrow placed on Probation
4) T-man, the Wise Scarecrow is placed on Probation for one year. This means that any administrator, in the exercise of their judgement for reasonable cause, documented in a section of this decision, may ban them from any page which he disrupts by inappropriate editing. T-man, the Wise Scarecrow must be notified on his talk page of any bans and a note must also placed on WP:AN/I. He may post suggestions on the talk page of any page from which he is banned from editing.


 * Passed 10 to 0 at 14:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Dyslexic Agnostic placed on Probation
5) Dyslexic Agnostic is placed on Probation for one year. This means that any administrator, in the exercise of their judgement for reasonable cause, documented in a section of this decision, may ban them from any page which he disrupts by inappropriate editing. Dyslexic Agnostic must be notified on his talk page of any bans and a note must also placed on WP:AN/I. He may post suggestions on the talk page of any page from which he is banned from editing.


 * Passed 9 to 1 at 14:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

T-man, the Wise Scarecrow placed under Mentorship
6) T-man, the Wise Scarecrow placed under the Mentorship of two to three administrators in good standing, to be named by the Arbitration Committee at a later date, for one year. They may be changed at the Arbitration Committee's will. The mentors will be knowledgeable in the case, and are expected to actively enforce T-man's Probation and parole. As such, while any administrators may enforce the ruling, the mentors should be seen as the primary enforcers, and other administrators are encouraged to communicate with them before taking actions. Additionally, the mentors are charged with monitoring and guiding T-man, and maintaining contact with him, as well as helping him to carry on productive communication with others towards the goal of successful collaboration.


 * Passed 9 to 0 at 14:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Note: Shanel, Robert McClenon, and Titoxd are now mentors. Dmcdevit·t 07:33, 23 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Note: On 31 July 2006, Dmcdevit judged that the mentorship had failed and enacted the 6-month ban. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 05:57, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Log of blocks and bans
Here log any block, ban or extension under any remedy in this decision. Minimum information includes name of administrator, date and time, what was done and the basis for doing it.

T-Man

 * 1) T-man blocked for 31 hours for incivility, on top of the personal attacks he was given final warning for.-- Shanel § 02:45, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) Blocked again for 72 hours, for more incivility/personal attacks.-- Shanel § 05:55, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) Blocked again for 72 hours, incivility/PA. Tito xd (?!? - help us) 21:48, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) Blocked T-man for 24 hours, for edit warring, incivility, and disruption on List of Justice League episodes. Tito xd (?!?) 07:01, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
 * 5) Blocked for 16 days, however at user's request.-- Shanel § 19:01, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * 6) Banned from List of Justice League episodes for two weeks. Tito xd (?!?) 05:36, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 7) User:T-man, the Wise Scarecrow banned from comics-related articles for two weeks, the ban expiring at 05:35 17 July (UTC). This ban is in accordance with the terms of his probation at Requests for arbitration/Dyslexic Agnostic.  Himself and User:Dyslexic agnostic have recently engaged in edit warring at various articles, including List of Batman: The Animated Series episodes, It's Never Too Late (Batman: The Animated Series) and On Leather Wings (Batman: The Animated Series).  I have discussed this with User:Titoxd, a moderator to User:T-man, the Wise Scarecrow and we feel that a ban from a few articles for two weeks will simply move the conflict to another article. Ban noted at WP:AN/I. Hiding Talk 21:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 8) Dmcdevit has judged that the mentorship has failed, and enacted the 6-month ban on T-man. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 05:58, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 9) Checkuser has determined that T-man was attempting to evade his block using the sockpuppet accounts and .  Accordingly, Hiding has reset the clock on T-man's six-month ban.  —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 17:21, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * 10) Apparently it has not yet been noted that Hiding extended T-Man's block to indefinite (as of 15:12, September 17, 2006), with the following verbose summary: "User made a personal attack and a threat to vandalise another users talk page whilst under a six month block for making personal attacks" — freak([ talk]) 14:10, Oct. 23, 2006 (UTC)
 * 11) Unblocked. I am assuming good faith after positive email discussions with the user. Hiding Talk 20:10, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * 12) Indefinite block reinstated 08:48, May 4, 2007 UTC by User:Thebainer with an edit summary of "was given adequate opportunity to reform his uncivil behaviour and has failed to do so". --Celain 22:23, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Dyslexic agnostic

 * 1) Blocked Dyslexic Agnostic for 24 hours, for edit warring, incivility, and disruption on List of Justice League episodes. Tito xd (?!?) 07:01, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) Blocked Dyslexic agnostic for 24 hours for a personal attack as seen in this edit. Hiding Talk 16:31, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 3) User:Dyslexic agnostic banned from comics-related articles for two weeks, the ban expiring at 05:35 17 July (UTC). This ban is in accordance with the terms of his probation at Requests for arbitration/Dyslexic Agnostic.  Himself and User:T-man, the Wise Scarecrow have recently engaged in edit warring at various articles, including List of Batman: The Animated Series episodes, It's Never Too Late (Batman: The Animated Series) and On Leather Wings (Batman: The Animated Series).  I have discussed this with User:Titoxd, a moderator to User:T-man, the Wise Scarecrow and we feel that a ban from a few articles for two weeks will simply move the conflict to another article. Ban noted at WP:AN/I. Hiding Talk 21:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) User:Dyslexic agnostic is banned from editing User talk:T-man, the Wise Scarecrow or any page in T-Man's user space for six months. He has been made aware that such edits to T-Man's page inflame a delicate situation between the two users and so I have taken this step in the hope that circumstances will resolve themselves whilst maintaining an even keel. The ban is issued per the tendentious disruptive editing clause above. Hiding Talk 10:36, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 5) Hiding blocked me for this friendly and innocuous post... this block is completely inappropriate. I ask for sanction against this blocking admin and removal of Block's block. -- Dyslexic agnostic 23:56, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 6) *To clarify, the ban from T-Man's talk page was not for the edit differential cited, but for disruptive editing to T-Man's talk page. The user has been made aware on numerous occasions, , , ,  , , , , , , ,  that edits to T-Man's talk page serve only to upset the user, who asserts that User:Dyslexic agnostic is wikistalking him . Given the history between the two users, T-Man finds it hard to assume any sincerity in the comments, and given the fact that User:Dyslexic agnostic has made comments to the effect that he will monitor T-Man , , , I think this ban is justified.  T-Man is under moderation, there are a number of users and admins attempting to help him contribute to Wikipedia constructively, and I believe this ban will reduce the chance that T-Man will feel threatened and thus reduce the chance that his editing pattern will exhibit disruptive tendencies, thus reducing the risk of diruption to Wikipedia. I would also note the user seemed to accept the ban in this edit . Hiding Talk 20:55, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 7) User:Dyslexic agnostic is blocked for 48 hours for personal attacks as seen in this edit. User referring to other party in this settled arb-com case as boor and ignorant. Hiding Talk 11:39, 18 July 2006 (UTC)