Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Freedom skies/Evidence/JFD edit wars

Disruptive behaviour such as this is not in favour of anyone. Both the involved parties are Chinese nationalists and have shown an increasing amount of resistance to have any mention of the foreign influences (moslem, Buddhist, Manchurian, Mongolian) mentioned on their countries martial arts.

JFD and Kennethtennyson
JFd asked Kennethtennyson to let him do the actual editing, Kennethtennyson has been providing revert backup to him ever since.


 * Foreign influence on Chinese martial arts
 * Bodhidharma
 * Bodhidharma, the martial arts, and the disputed India connection
 * Zen
 * Chan

JFD's contributions and Kenny's contributions match exactly.

The members of this group also been known to have exchanged barnstars with each other. Kennethtennyson advances a barnstar to JFD on 30 August 2006 and JFD returns the favour by granting his Kennethtennyson a barnstar on 1 September 2006.

The discussion forums, for everyone's benefit.

Bodhidharma, the martial arts, and the disputed India connection

 * ## (cur) (last) 18:07, 26 October 2006 Freedom skies (Talk | contribs) (For the Nth time, Nishiyama endorses the connection not disputes it,read the link.Provide citations for the uncited authors at the least,do your duty for once, instead of incessent, maddening reverts.)
 * ## (cur) (last) 15:03, 26 October 2006 Kennethtennyson (Talk | contribs) (look i've provided my citations - so quit removing the citations. as for the african nationals, i grow weary of arguing over this with you)
 * (cur) (last) 05:10, 26 October 2006 Freedom skies (Talk | contribs) (removing tags attached, please at least cite your authors, at least mention the african nationalist claims of the africa-india-china in full, at least clean up your article, it's buggy.)
 * ## (cur) (last) 05:08, 26 October 2006 Freedom skies (Talk | contribs) (grammer cleanup required and cite your authors, where do they make those claims ?? ?? ??)
 * (cur) (last) 05:03, 26 October 2006 Freedom skies (Talk | contribs) (provide citations, or you'll get a tag next time. At least work on improving your article instead of just crazy reverts, which seem to be you forte`)
 * ## (cur) (last) 15:22, 24 October 2006 Freedom skies (Talk | contribs) (at least provide links and citations like I did)
 * ## (cur) (last) 10:44, 24 October 2006 Freedom skies (Talk | contribs) (endorsing the legend is not similar to dismissing it, if you want to keep the list then point out that the authors have "endorsed" the legend. Is it so difficult to find authors for your cause ?)
 * ## (cur) (last) 23:33, 23 October 2006 Kennethtennyson (Talk | contribs) (Hey, what's your problem - leave the citations there - they belong in this paragraph. regardless, the list is fine)
 * ## (cur) (last) 09:08, 23 October 2006 Freedom skies (Talk | contribs) (Is itso difficult to find authors who have "rejected" the India connection ?? ?? The community seems more microscopic than I imagined.)
 * (cur) (last) 03:14, 23 October 2006 Kennethtennyson (Talk | contribs) (→The Evolution of the Bodhidharma Legend and the Attachment to Indian Martial Arts)
 * ## (cur) (last) 17:57, 22 October 2006 Freedom skies (Talk | contribs) (provide links to authors, citation is needed. Authors who support the "legend" are removed from the list of those who don't.)
 * (cur) (last) 17:49, 22 October 2006 Kennethtennyson (Talk | contribs) (read the paragraph; i'm providing evidence that the legend has expanded over time with many authors at universities trying to dispel it and some authors in the lay public still quoting it.)
 * (cur) (last) 17:44, 22 October 2006 Freedom skies (Talk | contribs) (at least provide a link like I did, you'll confuse the reader. tired ?? ?? ??)
 * (cur) (last) 17:40, 22 October 2006 Freedom skies (Talk | contribs) (Authors who support the fact weaken your argument. Authors who have mentioned the legend and endorsed positively must not be confused with authors who reject Bodhidharma and his connection)

Foreign influence on Chinese martial arts

 * ## (cur) (last) 16:39, 5 February 2007 JFD (Talk | contribs) (→Opposing theories)
 * ## (cur) (last) 15:12, 5 February 2007 Freedom skies (Talk | contribs)
 * ## (cur) (last) 10:26, 5 February 2007 JFD (Talk | contribs) (→Opposing theories)
 * ## (cur) (last) 09:55, 5 February 2007 Freedom skies (Talk | contribs) (No they don't. There is a difference between a "legendary charecter" and someone's life being layered by legend, like Guan Yu's)
 * (cur) (last) 05:45, 5 February 2007 Kennethtennyson (Talk | contribs) (they all agree he is a legendary character)

Zen
       

Batuo

 * 14:53, 18 November 2006 JFD (Talk | contribs)
 * 13:53, 19 November 2006 JFD (Talk | contribs)
 * 01:11, 20 November 2006 JFD (Talk | contribs)
 * 11:16, 20 November 2006 JFD (Talk | contribs)
 * 16:53, 22 November 2006 JFD (Talk | contribs)
 * 17:01, 22 November 2006 JFD (Talk | contribs)
 * 02:26, 23 November 2006 JFD (Talk | contribs)
 * 06:54, 24 November 2006 JFD (Talk | contribs)

Chan

 * 18:32, 19 January 2007 Freedom skies
 * 16:47, 13 January 2007 JFD
 * 16:34, 13 January 2007 Freedom skies
 * 20:49, 27 November 2006 Kennethtennyson
 * 17:15, 27 November 2006 Freedom skies (Talk | contribs)
 * 22:06, 26 November 2006 Kennethtennyson
 * 21:06, 26 November 2006 JFD (Talk | contribs)
 * 16:30, 26 November 2006 Freedom skies
 * (cur) (last) 20:13, 24 November 2006 Kennethtennyson (Talk | contribs)
 * 18:50, 24 November 2006 Freedom skies

Mallayuddha

 * 15:00, 10 September 2006 JFD
 * 13:09, 10 September 2006 Freedom skies
 * 19:32, 24 August 2006 Kennethtennyson
 * 15:36, 16 August 2006 Freedom skies
 * 04:06, 11 August 2006 Kennethtennyson
 * 07:00, 10 August 2006 JFD
 * 04:01, 10 August 2006 Freedom skies

Pehlwani

 * 21:26, 22 November 2006 Freedom skies
 * 17:12, 23 November 2006 Kennethtennyson
 * 17:19, 24 November 2006 Freedom skies (Actually Indian pehlwani is found by a synthesis of Persian pahalvani and Mallayuddha. So the question of the founding influence being equated to the result does not arise.)