Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Louis Epstein/Evidence

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Orthographic conventions
Louis Epstein has a habit of using his own particular conventions of punctuation and formatting when writing and editing articles. He does not insert a space following periods, commas, and other punctuation, nor does he precede brackets with a space.
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He also removes en- and em-dashes ('–' and '&mdash;'), whether they appear as HTML entities ( and  ) or Unicode, and replaces them with hyphens.
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He has apparently been asked by more than thirty editors to use normal spacing conventions in his editing.
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Several editors have requested that Louis stop removing dashes from Wikipedia articles.
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Edit warring over style
Louis has engaged in a slow, long-simmering edit war over the formatting of the articles National longevity recordholders
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and Supercentenarian
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In National longevity recordholders, Louis disputes the inclusion of some individuals, and disputes the ordering of sections with the article. Talk page discussion has not reached a resolution.

In Supercentenarian, Louis disputes the inclusion of some individuals, and disputes the use of tables in the article. He has been maintaining a separate fork of the article–with his personal preferred formatting and typographical conventions–to which he adds information.

General comments
Louis is a good writer and a fine researcher, and a peerless expert on human longevity records. However, he has difficulty working within the standards of style expected by Wikipedia. His 'my way or the highway' approach to conflict is unfortunate, and assumes that his expertise in human longevity records carries over into typesetting and design.

Arbiters should note that he has recently ceased to contribute to National longevity recordholders and Supercentenarian; I do not know if this is a permanent state of affairs or a temporary withdrawal.

TenOfAllTrades(talk) 14:52, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Addendum
Louis has resumed the revert war at Supercentenarian, unfortunately. He has reverted the article back to his preferred fork:. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 03:39, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

...And he has now reverted to his preferred fork of National longevity recordholders:. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 19:57, 27 October 2005 (UTC)


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