Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Theresa knott vs. Mr-Natural-Health/Evidence


 * This is a record of evidence presented during a case that was decided in February 2004. Please see Requests for arbitration/Theresa knott vs. Mr-Natural-Health for details.

If you wish to make evidence available to the inquiry (beyond just a simple link), please do so here, and add your name to it. Thanks. Martin 16:22, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Gladly! I am an editor who also had a long dispute with Ms Theresa Knott. I am glad to state in front of the honorable committee here that in agreement with my declaration of bias I hereby decided to end my discussion of characters and to concentrate on discussion of issues, including medical, but exclusively material. Credit is due to Jim, our benevolent dictator, for whom this editor's esteem increased exponentially during the debate. Sincerely, - irismeister 18:33, 2004 Feb 19 (UTC)

Information regarding Mr-Natural-Health
''by Fred Bauder 17:35, Feb 8, 2004 (UTC)

John Gohde P O Box 17,581 Richmond, VA 23226-7581 U.S.A.
 * The Natural Health Perspective tm

John Gohde internet reputation
by user:Toots


 * Google search "John Gohde
 * Google search "John Gohde
 * Google search for " John 'the Man" gohde
 * Thead newsgroup sci.med.nutrition
 * Google search for email address John 'the Man'" 

Quotations from newsgroup sci.med.nutrition (January, 2004)
Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...
 * John 'The Man [posted the following] "Once upon a time, our fellow JEDilworth rambled on about "Re: Bacteria." Our champion De-

Hello Dildo babe!

Please go back to the land of piss ants!

Just thought that you might want to know. :)" news:1lbf00ptmsoiv5gaj1ls5o3eant8dfl1fa@4ax.com... > Once upon a time, our fellow JEDilworth rambled on about "Re: Bacteria." Our champion De- > Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ... > > Hello Dildo babe! > > Please go back to the land of piss ants! > > Just thought that you might want to know. :)
 * William A. Noye [posted the following] "John 'the Man'"  wrote in message

Gohde, you are the Piss Ant of the usenet. I thought I'd remind you of that fact.

Watch out!! Dilworth, this is John's idea of foreplay.."
 * Jedilworth [posted the following] "Ewwwwwww.........

You know, I purposely have NOT subscribed to this NG for over a year (or more, I think) for a reason, and John is the reason. I can't imagine that someone spends his whole and entire existence as a troll.

Judy Dilworth, M.T. (ASCP) Microbiology

"William A. Noyes"  wrote in message news:4009e306$0$31396$a32e20b9@news.nntpservers.com... > > Watch out!! Dilworth, this is John's idea of foreplay." aliases blocked.
 * William A. Noye [posted the following] "Yes, I understand. I had John Gohde blocked for awhile and may still have some of his

Might I suggest the sci.life-extension forum as you have had some biochemistry and physiology so you might find it of interest. With the sci.med.nutrition forum, I often just cherry pick; unless, I feel like insulting Gohde. In smn, I read Alf Christophersen, Thomas Carter, Matti, Quentin Grady, Hua Hul, George Cherry, Larry Hoover and some others..

Other forums I might suggest are the alt.support.impotence and sci.med osteoporosis. Though you will need to cherry pick for the occasional lab results question, IMO.

You have to admit, I was on target concerning John boy:-(

William A. Noyes

"JEDilworth"  wrote in message news:HMOdnfXXvaUZoJfd4p2dnA@buckeye- express.com... > Ewwwwwww.........

> You know, I purposely have NOT subscribed to this NG for over a year (or more, I think) for a > reason, and John is the reason. I can't imagine that someone spends his whole and entire existence > as a troll. > > Judy Dilworth, M.T. (ASCP) Microbiology > > "William A. Noyes"  wrote in message > news:4009e306$0$31396$a32e20b9@news.nntpservers.com... > > > > Watch out!! Dilworth, this is John's idea of foreplay."


 * Another thread from newsgroup sci.med.nutrition

Thread "Info on John the Man" sci.psychology.misc

 * Regarding browser display
 * Followup post regarding browser display
 * Parent of thead info on John the Man
 * post which apparently prompted the inquiry

Posts on news group sci.med.pharmacy

 * Post as DeMan@JustSayNo.com
 * Why does everyone take an instant dislike to John The Man?
 * Google search for "DeMan@JustSayNo.com"

John Gohde internet advertisement on alt-healthsearch.com

 * Location of advertisement
 * Name:John Gohde  URL:http://home.att.net/   Category:johngohde/   Description:Mind-Body   Keywords:I am a Natural Health Advocate of pro-active approaches to preventing "Diseases of Civilization," promoting Optimum Health, and Longevity through moderation and balance in five areas: Diet, Nutritional Supplements, Exercise, Attitude, and Resilience. The primary causes of ill health are faulty living habits. A proper lifestyle and patience will prevent, or correct, all nutritional deficiencies and Health Conditions.   Products:natural health advocate consultant prevention preventing disease promoting optimum health longevity faulty living habits lifestyles patience nutritional deficiencies health conditions diet exercise nutritional supplements detoxification detox attitude meditation stress reduction resilience   Email:Private natural health consultations and general health information.   Address:johnhgohde@worldnet.att.net   Phone:
 * Google search johnhgohde@worldnet.att.net

Protection of alternative medicine
by Martin


 * Edit to definition on alternative medicine 15:31, 16 Jan 2004, by Rasmus Faber
 * Approximately 17 edits to alternative medicine, many concerning this definition, including some reverts.
 * Revert made to alternative medicine, 18:34, 17 Jan 2004, by David Gerard.
 * Request made to requests for page protection, 18:39, 17 Jan 2004, by David Gerard.
 * protected Alternative medicine, 03:22, 18 Jan 2004, by Daniel Mayer
 * Protection boilerplate added to alternative medicine, 03:22, 18 Jan 2004, by Daniel Mayer.
 * Request removed from requests for page protection, 03:23, 18 Jan 2004, by Daniel Mayer.
 * unprotected Alternative medicine, 15:25, Feb 6, 2004, by Fred Bauder
 * Protection boilerplate removed from alternative medicine, 15:26, 6 Feb 2004, by Fred Bauder.

Subpaging of conflicts between users
by Martin


 * material added
 * material removed

The added and removed material appears to match, demonstrating a dearth of "creative copying".

Information regarding Ms Theresa Knott
irismeister 14:47, 2004 Feb 9 (UTC) PS. Ms Theresa Knott is an editor who writes for the record that Wiki is not free, calls her colleagues names, including nutcases, corrects 1:5 sodium hypochlorite misleading into five parts anything, thinks Plato makes "claims"  in Charmides and goes crying on other ignorant and sympathetic shoulders in lieu of writing  decent Wiki articles above the threshold of special English. I firmly and passionately believe that ignorance, your honors, is a POV. Has nothing to do with Wiki editing. Kindly consider my proposals for sanity-watchdogs in medical articles. I am writing on my own behalf, as a medical doctor, and a strict follower of the Hippocratic oath. Sincerely yours, irismeister 14:21, 2004 Feb 9 (UTC)

Contributions by Mr-Natural-Health

 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Contributions&target=Mr-Natural-Health

Contributions by Theresa knott

 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Contributions&target=Theresa_knott

Selected editing history of Mr-Natural-Health

 * Original user page November 29, 2003
 * Alternative medicine just before Mr-Natural-Health's first edit
 * edits of 12.77.5.168 Likely to be Mr-Natural-Health
 * 12.77.5.168's request to protect the page Alternative medicine
 * 18:03, 28 Nov 2003 . . 12.77.5.168
 * (cur) (last) . . 17:53, 28 Nov 2003 . . 12.77.5.168 (Alternative medicine is any method of treatment other than prescription medication, the heroic medicine of chemotherapy / radiation therapy and surgery. )
 * Edits of 12.77.7.44 (may or may not be Mr-Natural-Health)
 * (cur) (last) . . 06:42, 28 Nov 2003 . . 12.77.7.44
 * (cur) (last) . . 06:36, 28 Nov 2003 . . 12.77.7.44
 * (cur) (last) . . 06:23, 28 Nov 2003 . . 12.77.7.44
 * (cur) (last) . . 05:55, 28 Nov 2003 . . 12.77.7.44
 * (cur) (last) . . 03:25, 28 Nov 2003 . . 12.77.7.44
 * Contributions of 12.77.7.44


 * Edits as 12.77.5.190 Likely to be Mr-Natural-Health
 * (cur) (last) . . 00:12, 6 Dec 2003 . . 12.77.5.190 (Hello, RK. Have you always suffered from mental illness and perceptual problems?)
 * # (cur) (last) . . 18:59, 30 Nov 2003 . . Mr-Natural-Health (tweaked with healer / allopathy terminology) First edit as Mr-Natural-Health

Articles in dispute

 * Medical Scientism
 * Scientism
 * Alternative medicine

Reversions by Mr-Natural-Health

 * Scientism February 6, 2003, (rv POV version) Followed a revert (rv POV version)  by User:David Gerard of five edits, , ,  and  by Mr-Natural-Health to