Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/ Onefortyone/ANON 80.141.et al/ Supplement

Notice
It should be noted that User:Ted Wilkes frequently deleted my contributions from article and talk pages. See, for instance, He was deeply involved in an edit war concerning Elvis Presley and other celebrities. Onefortyone 21:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Comment by Ted Wilkes
This page has been created by User:Ted Wilkes in conjunction with his Request for arbitration. This separate page is needed because User:Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al repeatedly makes references to certain people to declare Elvis Presley was gay as follows:


 * It should be noted that I am not claiming that Elvis Presley was gay. I am only pointing out that, according to some sources, there is much evidence that the singer, apart from his relationships with women, had a homosexual relationship with his friend Nick Adams.

Dee Presley
here
 * Here is an edit with complete fabrications about Dee Presley and states there is a book quoting content
 * After being confronted with the fact that no such book exists, Anon (Onefortyone) then varies the article slightly to this then added the National Enquirer as a Wikipedia reference
 * Before Wilkes had discovered that the book has not been published, I was of the opinion that a published book exists, as its content was discussed by some reputable authors and on several fan sites. Here is a link which proves that a manuscript of the book exists: A summary of Dee Presley's claims has been published in the National Enquirer in  the 1990s, as they have been mentioned in Greil Marcus's book, Double Trouble: Bill Clinton and Elvis Presley in a Land of No Alternatives (2000) and by Professor David S. Wall in his critical article on the world-wide Elvis industry. See . The claims have also been discussed by Elvis fan goups and by Elvis's friend, Ann-Margret. Onefortyone 21:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)


 * On the Elvis Presley talk page Talk:Elvis Presley/archive1 here  Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 states:
 * "A devoted Elvis fan is constantly deleting what is written about Presley's possible homosexuality in two different books on Elvis and some other sources. One of these sources is written by the king's stepmother, Dee Presley."

THEN Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 adds a bit later on the Talk page:
 * "In an article by David S. Wall there is an interesting discussion of radical policing strategies implemented over the years by Elvis fan clubs and organisations. See The article clearly states that one of these strategies is " 'community policing' to achieve governance at a distance."

From declaring there is a book by Dee Presley stating Elvis was gay, to it being a "manuscript book" that Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 quotes from and lies that The Madison Entertainment Group, Inc., a subsidiary of Madison Group Associates, Inc., the manuscript owner in 1995 is a defunct company.
 * See Onefortyone 21:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Note that after User:Ted Wilkes and others pointed out that an unpublished manuscript, whose contents and are in fact unknown, is not acceptable as a Wikipedia Reference, Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al continued to fabricate quotes from this manuscript which were then reinserted in the article he created titled Gay sex rumors about Elvis Presley (since deleted by a Wikipedia community vote).
 * The content of the manusrcipt book is well known (see above). Onefortyone 21:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Note also with respect to Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al’s claim that Dee Presley told the National Enquirer Elvis was gay that there is no record anywhere that Dee Presley ever made such a statement. Worth remembering is that Dee Staney-Presley has three sons, and all three stanley boys have written one or more books about Elvis. None ever mentions Elvis was gay or had a homosezual encounter, but they do talk about his womanizing.
 * No wonder, as they are Elvis fans and part of the world-wide Elvis industry. In the article, Dee Presley claimed that the singer had a sexual relationship with his mother, which had resulted in Gladys drinking herself to death, and that Vernon had known about this. She further claimed that Elvis had raped his wife Priscilla upon learning that she was leaving him for good, ostensibly to prove that he was still a man, and that Elvis had committed suicide because he had been suffering from bone-marrow cancer. She also revealed how Elvis had coerced a teenage fan into a three-day orgy, and fed her an entire bottle of Hycodan on which she had overdosed. In the article Dee further claims that she knew Elvis had a brief affair with Nick Adams. Onefortyone 21:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Note too, that Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al’s claimed Dee Stanely lived at Graceland for ten years. This is more of his “seeding” and misinformation to influence others at Wikipedia and Google searches done knowing that here at Elvis and Me, Priscilla Presley states that Elvis bought her and Vernon Presley a house as their wedding gift where they lived. Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al could care less about the facts elsewhere at Wikipedia – all he wants is to plant his fabrications.
 * Dee Presley, Elvis's stepmother, indeed lived at Graceland for ten years, first at Elvis's home and then, after some quarrel, together with Elvis's father Vernon and her three children in a house nearby. There can be no doubt that she knew Elvis well. See Onefortyone 21:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Judy Spreckels
Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 writes in the David Bret article "Elvis and his boyfriend" here a total fabrication. Here is what the article actually says.
 * Judy Spreckels, Presley's platonic girlfriend, who was like a sister to Elvis, a companion, confidante and keeper of secrets in the early days of his career, undoubtedly remembers going out with Elvis and his friend Nick Adams. "He told me secrets that I never told and will never tell," she says. "I had nothing to do with being a yes man for him and obviously he trusted me. Anything he told me was not going to go to any publication. I am the only person who was around Elvis who was a writer and didn't write a book. I felt secrets were secrets." Onefortyone 21:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

I already pointed out that the claim of friendship by Spreckels is meaningless and irrelevant. She can claim anything she wants but the reality is she makes no reference to Elvis being gay anywhere, anytime, anyplace. Presley’s friendship with Nick Adams is a well known public fact with plenty of publicity photos and is well documented in respected writer Peter Guralnick 's book and Elaine Dundy's book (see Elvis and Gladys) plus numerous others. Spreckels was a Presley fanclub president, no more. Her giving an interview to a newspaper after "all these years" may have something to do with her trying to sell Presley memorabilia as here. Note, this "great friend," gets a form letter sent to the President of all Presley fanclubs.
 * It should be noted in this connection that there is much evidence that Elvis's friend, Nick Adams was gay, a fact Ted Wilkes constantly endeavoured to deny. See Nick Adams, Talk:Nick Adams, Onefortyone 21:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Note that Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al likes to repeatedly refer to Gavin Lambert's writing but conveniently leaves out this passage from page 119 of Lambert’s gossip book on Natalie Wood that says:
 * "Nick Adams, who happened to be in New York that week, had recently managed to ingratiate himself with Elvis Presley. He told Natalie (Wood) that the singer wanted to know if he might ask his favorite actress for a date. "Natalie was all shook up after Presley called and asked her to go out with him when she got back to Los Angeles"

Note that this information was already posted by User:Ted Wilkes at Talk:Nick Adams


 * Gavin Lambert clearly says in his Nathalie Wood biography, "Her first studio-arranged date with a gay or bisexual actor had been with Nick Adams, whom the publicity department considered a more likely "beau" than Sal Mineo for the New York premiere of Rebel." Onefortyone 21:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

David S. Wall
See: Talk:Elvis Presley/archive3

Professor Wall's article as a legal article that states:
 * This article is largely concerned with US intellectual property law, particularly the right of publicity whose origins lie in the right of privacy; however, the discussion has potential significance for European jurisdictions because of the development there of privacy rights under EU law.
 * In this article, Professor Wall, who has written further publications on Elvis (see, clearly says, that one of the strategies of the worldwide Elvis industry is
 * 'community policing' to achieve governance at a distance and typically effected through the various fan clubs and appreciation societies to which the bulk of Elvis fans belong. These organisations have, through their membership magazines, activities and sales operations, created a powerful moral majority that can be influenced in order to exercise its considerable economic power. Policing by mobilising the organic ‘Elvis community’ – the fan and fan club networks – has been achieved in a number of different ways, for example, when Dee Presley, nee Stanley, Elvis’s former step-mother, wrote a supposedly whistle blowing account of Elvis’s last years. The fan clubs refused to endorse the book and condemned it in their editorials. The combined effect of this economic action and negative publicity was ... the apparent withdrawal of the book. With a combined membership of millions, the fans form a formidable constituency of consumer power. Onefortyone 21:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Note also in the Talk:Nick Adams page here that User:Onefortyone himself refers to David Bret and the like as "gossip book authors" stating in his edit of 19:21, 18 August 2005 (UTC):
 * "The only source not written by gossip book authors is the article by Professor Dr Wall, but he has not written about Nick Adams's sexual preferences." – Onefortyone
 * This is true, as most books written on Elvis's life are indeed gossip books or they include much gossip. Ted Wilkes has also used such gossip publications for his Wikipedia contributions. Onefortyone 21:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Despite the facts and both User:Wyss and User:Onefortyone's own admissions that there is no evidence Nick Adams was gay, it asserts that as a fact in the Presley article saying: "homosexual affair between Elvis and actor Nick Adams." And, the Presley part of the article about homosexuality gives a link to the United Kingdom criminal law Professor David S. Wall article about United States intellectual property law where in fact Professor Wall makes no reference to the sexual preferences issue whatsoever as User:Onefortyone himself has declared. And, the text linked (by User:Onefortyone) to criminal law professor Wall further violates Wikipedia policy in that it is cloaked in weasel terms in an attempt to make the statement appear to have credibility and related to homosexuality.
 * David S. Wall refers to an Elvis impersonator named Elvis Herselvis who was not allowed to perform. There is much evidence that Nick Adams was gay. Even gay historian David Ehrenstein confirms that he was gay. Onefortyone 21:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

User:Onefortyone/ANON 80.141's used weasel terms in the Presley article and tried to validate his personal opinion which infers that academically qualified, peer reviewed, and highly respected authors such as Alanna Nash and Peter Guralnick are part of a worldwide conspiracy to write only favorable views of Presley. Note that next to the illicit weasel terminology is this link to Dr. Wall pretending that this statement is coming from him. The theory paper by UK criminal law professor David S. Wall never said that whatsoever. What professor Wall theorized upon was the Presley fan clubs and appreciation societies (his term) whom he labeled as all being part of the moral majority (his description).
 * You cannot deny that Professor Wall knew what Dee Presley has written. See quote above. Onefortyone 21:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Quoting the United Kingdom Professor is a tenuous proposition at best as User:Ted Wilkes pointed out. The Wikipedia warning (Reliable sources) specifically refers to Ph.D's writing about matters where they have no expertise. The UK professor stated a Dee Presley book was published then withdrawn. It never happened and professor Wall should have simply gone to the United States Library of Congress online database here (on the web since 1993) and searched: Presley, Dee for this supposed book. All published books are registered at the Library of Congress. If it is published and withdrawn as this claims, it still had to be registered and given an ISBN number to be sold. Had professor Wall looked on the web, and his article says he did Web research, it would show Dee Stanley-Presley only published one book and that was in 1980 (released January 1, 1981) sold here. It is strange that a university professor didn't do that basic research, after all, his own books are registered there as required by law. (See United States Library of Congress Wall, David = Wall, David, 1956-). Next, for UK professor Wall to say that an American publisher would withdraw an Elvis book from the market is absurd. Every publisher dreams of getting that kind of controversial publicity for their books. Today, authors spend big money for press agents to drum up publicity for new releases and many plant controversial stories to generate publicity. Then, there are those who use Wikipedia as a free advertising instrument. These kinds of blatant misstatements by the Professor are why Wikipedia:Reliable sources#Beware false authority exists.
 * It is to be supposed that Professor Wall read Dee Presley's summary in the National Enquirer. As the manuscript book was not published, most authors dealing with her accusations seem to have referred to this source. It is of little importance whether the book has been published or not, as the claims exist and were widely discussed. Onefortyone 21:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Despite all the information above already posted on the Presley Talk page, this unrelated speculation that there is a worldwide conspiracy at work at Wikipedia to prevent anything negative from being said about Elvis Presley was inserted by Onefortyone/ANON 80.141.et al into his now-deleted article Gay sex rumors about Elvis Presley.

Nick Adams

 * a fabrication here and here and after many arguments with User:Wyss changes it to Weasel words that "Adams seems to have had homosexual leanings" and puts in the David Bret book reference, again. And Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al plays the game in this edit and more here of the same unfounded statements.

From Talk:Elvis Presley/archive1 : In the article on Nick Adams, Onefortyone/ANON 80.141.et al  inserted the same thing about Dee Presley and came up with yet another version at Talk:Nick Adams which says: In conjunction with the fact that there is a total lack of evidence that Nick Adams was gay, the opposite is stated here in an article on Nick Adams that says "Although Nick was straight, and Dean was bi-sexual." And, there is no evidence from any reputable source that Nick Adams was gay or even a close friend of James (Jimmy) Dean. In fact, author John Gilmore said here "With Nick Adams it had been the same way, even with Natalie Wood—Jimmy (Dean) avoided them. Once off the (movie) set, he went out of his way to go in the opposite direction."
 * "that he was homosexual. Indeed, this accusation (by Bret's book) is proved by Elvis's stepmother, Dee Presley, and by his platonic girlfriend Judy Spreckels."
 * As said above, there is much evidence that Nick Adams was gay. In an interview of 1972, homosexual actor Sal Mineo says that Adams had told him that he and his roommate, James Dean had a big affair. Gavin Lambert, a reputed biographer and insightful chronicler of Hollywood and himself part of the gay circles in Hollywood of the 1950s and 1960s, knew Adams well. He says in his biography on Natalie Wood, "Her first studio-arranged date with a gay or bisexual actor had been with Nick Adams, whom the publicity department considered a more likely "beau" than Sal Mineo for the New York premiere of Rebel." According to some other accounts, before his success as an actor Adams was a male prostitute catering to men. In Boze Hadleigh's book Hollywood Gays (1996) a young Nick Adams is described as a Hollywood hustler and the author concludes the actor may have "hustled while looking for acting jobs in the 1950s." James Dean also claimed to have worked with his friend Adams as a street hustler when he first arrived in Hollywood. Onefortyone 21:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Raymond Burr

 * Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al did four edits, the first here to the Raymond Burr article, inserting the word homosexual and making a reference and link to Natalie Wood.
 * As it is well known that Burr was gay, what should be wrong with this? Onefortyone 21:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Gavin Lambert
Note that the Guardian newspaper here warns readers that the book is gossip. Attempts by others to remove non-encyclopedic gossip from the article was met with more than two dozen reverts by Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al.
 * Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al created the Gavin Lambert article. He refers to the book Lambert wrote on actress Natalie Wood but as seen here, the entire reference is a claim that Wood dated gay men and states Nick Adams was gay.
 * The Guardian says, "For bitchy, witty and perceptive high-class gossip about Hollywood, there was no better source than the critic, screenwriter, novelist and biographer Gavin Lambert." See also this positive Guardian review: . Film historian Professor Joseph McBride wrote,
 * The novelist, screenwriter, and biographer Gavin Lambert, a British expatriate who has lived in Los Angeles since the 1950s, is a keenly observant, wryly witty chronicler of Hollywood's social mores and artistic achievements
 * Ted Wilkes has repeatedly, and biasedly, included references in the article that Lambert's biography on Natalie Wood is a gossip book in order to denigrate this source which has lots of positive reviews. Publishers Weekly says:
 * Lambert follows her (Wood) from such childhood triumphs as Miracle on 34th Street to her breakthrough adult part opposite James Dean in Rebel Without a Cause. Wood's overlapping affairs with Rebel director Nicholas Ray and cast member Dennis Hopper, and brief romance with Elvis Presley, will be familiar material to aficionados. But Lambert reveals deep sensitivity and understanding of her development as an actress, and he's one of the few authors to capture the depth and beauty of her relationship with Robert Wagner. Lambert also effectively highlights Wood's shrewd professional moves, including her pretense to boss Jack Warner that she didn't want to star in Splendor in the Grass, because she knew he would refuse to let her appear in it if she displayed enthusiasm. The shooting of Wood's film with Robert Redford, Inside Daisy Clover, has special authenticity, since Lambert wrote the screenplay and witnessed her frustrations after several crucial voice-overs were cut from the final print. Details regarding Wood's tragic drowning are inevitably speculative and vital questions remain unanswered. But Lambert eloquently clarifies the self-destructive reasons behind Wood's addictions and insecurities, and in the end, readers will feel they truly know the subject more than they do in most biographies. Onefortyone 21:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Natalie Wood
First edit by Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al in Natalie Wood is to insert as fact unsubstantiated gossip declaring as fact as seen here that Nick Adams was gay so as to link this to Elvis Presley

Again, on the Talk:Natalie Wood page, Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al created an edit war.

James Dean
The very first edit (17:47, 4 July 2005) by Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al is to insert [here an unfounded and unreferenced claim that James Dean was bisexual. This Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al will revert without explanation then insert an External link here to someone’s personal website that claims James Dean had a homosexual relationship with [[Nick Adams]]. After others deleted these edits, six week later (15:42, 16 August 2005) Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al reinserted them here.

On September 3rd Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al added James Dean to his hit list making six edits that created a section he titled "Rumors about Dean's homosexual leanings." This was followed by an edit war. All of the edits to these articles have been orchestrated through referencing and targeted linking to Nick Adams. They include this edit summary:
 * 00:45, 4 September 2005 Onefortyone (I have added two additional sources to the text which undoubtedly support my view. Do not revert the page without giving any reasons.)

STATING: Decades after Dean's death, author Boze Hadleigh published a 1972 interview with Sal Mineo in which the actor said, "Nick (Adams) told me they had a big affair-"
 * Gavin Lambert clearly says that James Dean was bisexual. For the many other sources which prove that James Dean had homosexual leanings, see Talk:James Dean /archive1. Onefortyone 21:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Boze Hadleigh
In the Nick Adams article [ here], Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al inserted:
 * "Boze Hadleigh's book, Hollywood Gays (1996) and William J. Mann's Behind the Screen: How Gays and Lesbians Shaped Hollywood 1910-1969 (2001), claim that before his success as an actor Adams was a male prostitute catering to men. This is related to similar rumours about James Dean who is claimed to have been involved in this with Adams."

On the Talk:Nick Adams I pointed out here that both Publishers Weekly and the Library Journal  had discredited Boze Hadleigh's book and that the William J. Mann reference was a complete fabrication by Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al here
 * Boze Hadleigh is an expert on Hollywood gays. There are positive reviews of his books. The Library Journal says, "the interviews are highly entertaining and provide an important, mostly undocumented view of the film industry's social history. Recommended for both general readers looking for dish and scholars of gay history and film studies." For Hadleigh's interview with Sal Mineo which proves that Nick Adams was gay, see . Onefortyone 21:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Note that Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al admitted here what he wrote in the article was in fact a complete fabrication stating:
 * "O.K. The reference to this source should be deleted. However, there are several other sources supporting the fact that Adams was gay."


 * In this case, two different sources were confused. This can occasionally happen.

Alanna Nash
User:Ted wilkes wrote here at Talk:Elvis Presley/archive1 that says:
 * Check out the website for Alanna Nash and read the accolades from major sources including Billboard Magazine that called her work a "classic of music industry reporting." In the UK, The Observer called her book "perhaps the most thoroughly researched music book ever written." -- Amazing, all this exacting research and Alanna Nash didn't learn about Elvis being blackmailed by the Colonel because he was gay.


 * Nash's book on Colonel Parker includes much gossip. Later, in an article for Playboy, Nash indeed mentions that there were rumors that Elvis and Adams had a sexual affair. Onefortyone 21:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Here is Onefortyone/ANON 80.141 et al's totally fabricated reply:
 * "It should also be taken into account that most parts of Nash's book were written before Dee Presley published her recent accusations."


 * This was simply a mistake, as at that time I was of the opinion that Dee Presley's accusations were published shortly before David S. Wall's article appeared.