Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/American Brit

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American Brit





 * F &mdash; Evasion of community-based bans or blocks (American Brit's block log)

User's second edit (four minutes after the account was created) was to User talk:The Haunted Angel, who was the primary target of Brit's attention. The fact that he suddenly started a dialogue with someone that he shouldn't know is a little odd, as is the fact that he's specifically asked about enemies, but the fact that he's said that he's "been a fan [...] for a long time"  is a little worrisome. The fact that he found THA through one of Brit's other socks is what really concerns me.

This may seem like fishing, but given Brit's behavior (specifically: randomly targeting THA with "brand new users" and being unable to avoid referencing his old socks), I think the CU is justified. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 16:55, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


 * No IP-relationship; you'll have to go by behavior. --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 19:12, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

American Brit





 * Code letter: C (community banned at WP:ANI)

Clear sock puppet of American Brit, despite his claims that he is an "admirer". First edit blanking EVUla's talk page, second one making his presence known, before he even edited his own talk page. Clear vandalism account for American Brit. ≈ The Haunted Angel //The Forest Whispers My Name// 09:01, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Per C, could you provide a diff of ANI ahowing the discussion? -- lucasbfr talk 12:53, 31 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Here is proof of vandalism, saying that EVula is "going down", whereas here is proof of his claim to have "returned", as it were. The many previous Check User cases are below, this appears to be just another of his Sock Puppets. ≈ The Haunted Angel //The Forest Whispers My Name// 13:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Found the ban here -- lucasbfr talk 13:12, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I blocked him indefinitely.  Majorly  (o rly?) 13:25, 31 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I've added sockpuppetcheckuser to the latest Brit sock. Oh what fun. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 14:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)


 * ✅ even though . Along with Brit VI through X. --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 16:02, 31 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I just got a message (and subsequently banned) . Do we care enough to bother with a CU? EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:36, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Nah. . We'll see what happens next. --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 02:33, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

American Brit





 * Code letter: C, F (community banned at WP:ANI)

His user page says it all, plus he vandalised YoungOcelot's talk page, a previous American Brit target. It's clearly him, but would like confirmation. Thanks.  Majorly  (o rly?) 22:33, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Please provide only one code letter.-- Ed  ¿Cómo estás? 02:37, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Ed, cases with more than one code letter are acceptable. PTO 03:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Check every single case below. C and F are always given for this user. I think Jpgordon knows the circumstances of this user well enough to avoid nitty-gritty details.  Majorly  (o rly?) 02:47, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * RFCU Procedure clearly states "Do not specify more than one summary letter." :/ -- Ed  ¿Cómo estás? 04:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * , anyway. --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 05:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * He'll stay suspected then.  Majorly  (o rly?) 12:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

American Brit





 * Code letter: C, F (community banned at WP:ANI)

First edits are to userpage, with a userbox in American Brit style. Edits to All My Children, a favourite of Brit's, and other TV articles. Now he's communicated with poor spelling to User:YoungOcelot, a past "victim" of Brit's. I'd like to clear this up in good faith.  Majorly  (o rly?) 22:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Added CombinationOfTheAbove - first edits including advertising MySpace, possible test, although soon after he edited on English User's talk page accusing him of being American Brit. ≈ The Haunted Angel //The Forest Whispers My Name// 19:38, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I am sorry you all seem to think I am some American Brit. But I am afraid I am not. This checkuser will soon show that I am not. Eng 21:13, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅ for EnglishUser. CombinationOfTheAbove comes in on an open proxy (or equivalent) that's been checkuserblocked (but kept open for a good user by another admin.) But what's particularly suspicious about COTA is that his name was removed from the list by another editor coming in from the exact same open proxy, so I'm presenting for investigation of edits the following, some of whom are already blocked.
 * --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 01:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 01:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 01:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 01:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 01:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 01:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 01:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 01:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 01:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 01:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 01:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 01:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Good heavens... ≈ The Haunted Angel //The Forest Whispers My Name// 01:28, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Seems what I've caught here is an intersection with Johnny the Vandal. --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 01:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

American Brit





 * Code letter: C, F (community banned at WP:ANI)

Brit again, should I need to say much more? I think the contributions speak for themselves. -- Majorly  (o rly?) 20:29, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅. --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 02:53, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Majorly already blocked him, but I've updated his userpage to reflect his confirmed-sock status. I think we've said about all there is to say with this latest sock... EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 03:32, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I just blocked as a self-professed sock. Not sure if this warrants another CU or not... EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:22, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It might be best to confirm it. -- Majorly  (o rly?) 21:18, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I found him already on a proxy I hadn't closed down properly. --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 04:29, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Groovy. Userpage updated to display confirmed sock status. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 06:10, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

One more: -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs)  05:25, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * That account was created in June 2006. Seems rather unlikely. Grand  master  ka  05:36, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Duh, you're right. Nebbermind. -- Jim Douglas (talk)  (contribs)  05:38, 15 February 2007 (UTC

American Brit





 * Code letter: C, F (community banned at WP:ANI)

Brit style editing again. First edit was to his user page, adding a user box, in total Brit style. Now his first edits are warning a user about editing a user page... I'm pretty sure it's him, unless it's an impersonator or something. -- Majorly  (o rly?) 00:13, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm tossing YoungOcelot onto this as well; this is the second (or maybe third) time that he's been peripherally dragged in, and it was not at all uncommon for Brit to talk to his own socks. If this qualifies as fishing, I apologize (and by all means, don't perform the CheckUser), but everything about this damn puppetmaster is convoluted. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 00:47, 10 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Note I just indefinitely blocked DiamondUser as an apparent American Brit sock (posted a threat to my talk page and an insult here). It'd be nice if we could get an actual confirmation on this, though (as well as checking out the highly suspicious YoungOcelot). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 01:29, 10 February 2007 (UTC)


 * ✅ that DiamondUser == American Brit. Young Ocelot stands on its own. Also along with DiamondUser and AmericanBrit, I see:
 * (and ones you've seen before). --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 03:47, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * (and ones you've seen before). --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 03:47, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * (and ones you've seen before). --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 03:47, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * (and ones you've seen before). --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 03:47, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * (and ones you've seen before). --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 03:47, 10 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Groovy, thanks. CorrieEnders, Masjoe, and OldUserNew all now blocked. I've also updated the pages for Play Man Nun and DiamondUser to denote them as confirmed socks. Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of American Brit is getting mighty full. :-) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 04:05, 10 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for checking on Ocelot, too; I guess he's just an unfortunate bystander in all this. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 04:05, 10 February 2007 (UTC)


 * He's a much better writer than American Brit is. :-) Grand  master  ka  04:07, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

American Brit





 * Code letter: C, F (community banned at WP:ANI)

Ok, it's possible that I'm paranoid, but User:SilverBronz just created an account and immediately posted a spurious to User talk:YoungOcelot, a page that was recently visited by User:Golden User. That's a very unusual first edit for a legitimately new user, and the whole "Gold, Silver, Bronze" theme is too cute for words. This seems more than coincidental. -- Jim Douglas (talk) <sub style="color:gray;">(contribs)  20:24, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Given AB's modus operandi, I don't think this is paranoia at all; this most definitely smells of a sock drawer to me, as well. As it is, YoungOcelot is mildly suspicious (due to his first few edits being on THA's talk page), but doesn't have the same editing habits. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:51, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅. --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 20:57, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

American Brit



 * Code letter: C, F (community banned at WP:ANI)

User:OldIreTea: The user's third edit was to post to User talk:The Haunted Angel out of nowhere to request unblocking for User:American Brit. I'm stretching my imagination, and I can't think of any way this message could come from anyone but American Brit. -- Jim Douglas <sup style="color:green;">(talk) <sub style="color:gray;">(contribs)  21:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Not to mention his similar interest in British Soaps as American Brit . ≈ <b style="color:indigo;">The Haunted Angel</b> (The Forest Whispers My Name) 22:10, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 * OldIreTea has been blocked for death threats. -- Jim Douglas <sup style="color:green;">(talk) <sub style="color:gray;">(contribs)  22:58, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Awesome. ≈ <b style="color:indigo;">The Haunted Angel</b> (The Forest Whispers My Name) 23:03, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

User:Golden User: One of his first edits was to Public nudity, which was edited by User:Edge865 a few days earlier. His interests appear to be identical to those of American Brit (British television and soap operas); his spelling and use of language is similarly poor; and his choice of user-boxes is strikingly similar, showing a virtually identical alleged back story. -- Jim Douglas <sup style="color:green;">(talk) <sub style="color:gray;">(contribs)  22:24, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅ --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 23:31, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

To get this in before archived, I think this checkuser case should note that American Brit was community banned on 11 January, 2007. Teke ( talk ) 06:30, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Note

American Brit





 * Code letter: C, F (community banned at WP:ANI)

American Brit is a well known puppeteer, and now another user, Edge865, has been making edits awful similar to his, particularly his fondness for Coronation Street. The account was created very recently, and many of the User Boxes he uses are similar to American Brits. Additionally, it appears that Edge865 has some very similar interests to me, such as LaVeyan Satanism and Mortal Kombat. It may be paranoia, but this could be another attempt to try and associate with me the same way Brit did. ≈ <b style="color:indigo;">The Haunted Angel</b> (The Forest Whispers My Name) 22:13, 15 January 2007 (UTC)


 * It may be paranoia, but I agree that there are too many coincidences here. The User:Edge865 account was created a few hours after the last plea for unblocking on User talk:Stralia, Edge865's use of language is strikingly similar to American Brit/Stralia's, and every topic to which Edge865 has posted was recently visited by either American Brit or Stralia.  And there's the small point that this person finds himself unable to stop posting to User talk:The Haunted Angel -- Jim Douglas <sup style="color:green;">(talk)  <sub style="color:gray;">(contribs)  06:23, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

✅ Mackensen (talk) 01:23, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Bwuhahaha, and if you need any other evidence, just compare these time-stamps. How nice for the sock to leave five minutes after being found out... EVula // talk //  &#9775;  // 01:47, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

American Brit





 * Code letter: C, F (community banned at WP:ANI)

Recently, I have had much vandalism directed at me by various people, Christian vandalism in particular, and it all turns out that they are from the same person, American Brit, who was trying to be friendly to me. As such, he would vandalise with his puppet accounts, then come to the rescue with his main account. He would even vandalise his own account to make it more believable. He is an established puppeteer, it has been confirmed he is behind it. After his banning, Stralia appears on the scene, in much the same manner he did, trying to be friendly. His account was created only days earlier. I suspect that this may be the same person trying the same thing again, from a similar angle, especially considering the similar background (see his userboxes). One vitally important piece of information, is that American Brit used to contribute heavily to Coronation Street, and Stralia has already begun to share the same editing interest in the said program ≈ <b style="color:indigo;">The Haunted Angel</b> (The Forest Whispers My Name) 22:17, 12 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I am not upset and I do concent to this checkuser. Haunted Angel put up with so much abuse by American Brit's sockpuppets and I began my account a few days before American Brits "lies" were exposed. So I understand 100% with his suspesions. But I do have to say, and probally with little believing me, that I live in Scotland where Coronation Street is broadcast and I have been a fan since I was just 8 years old. American brit claimed to live In the US where the show is not aired yet he was a die hard fan. As for the background we are nothing alike, aside from the fact we both became teenage parents and married young. Check our userboxes, they are very little alike. But still i understand Haunted Angels suspesions and I concent to this checkuser. Stralia 00:00, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Points of interest:
 * The IP Stralia gave on THA's talk page (diff) traces back to Texas, not Scotland.
 * Stralia's very first edit was to THA's talk page (contrib link // diff)
 * I'm not trying to stir up shit, I'm just pointing out some facts that I've run across. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 00:13, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Ah yes, I forgot to run a WHOIS... ≈ <b style="color:indigo;">The Haunted Angel</b> (The Forest Whispers My Name) 01:58, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * And here are the results. More lies, it appears. ≈ <b style="color:indigo;">The Haunted Angel</b> (The Forest Whispers My Name) 02:01, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Look I am not in Texas wherever that is. Does it even exisist? I am in Ayr, Scotland. I am not lying. Stralia 02:40, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Also it was not my first edit. I have edited I.P. for over a year. Stralia 02:41, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, Texas exists. As for you editing as an anon for over a year, there's very little I can do to argue against that. Could you perhaps find the IP (or IPs) that you edited from? EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 06:02, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

✅ Mackensen (talk) 17:28, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

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