Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Celldea

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Celldea

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Group 1 Group 2 Group 3 Ip
 * = supposedly current puppet master
 * = banned sock of Celldea stale
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See this for reference
 * Code letter: C, D, E, F
 * '''Supporting evidence:
 * Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Kamosuke
 * Ja:利用者‐会話:Opp/Dec2007新資料(translated by google translate tool)

Wikipedia is not a place for disruptive editors with ill faith to advocate their POV pushing. Unfortunately, that kind of edit warriors with ultra nationalisim have been haunting this community over and over as breaking the policy and given sanction. The infinitely banned users are all related to Liancourt Rocks and I strongly believe that this case is also relate to this one and half year case, Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Kamosuke. I request checkusers to scrutinize the banned user with the above listed editors. When I filed Requests_for_checkuser/Case/KoreanShoriSenyou, the case was difficult for checkusers to pin down the suspected editors to one or another because many of them are using SoftBank ODN ISP and also other ISPs together and have similar interests and operate a lot of Socks!

However, I found the evidences of their meat puppetry scheme from user pages from English Wikipedia and Japanese Wikipedia like this. Ja:利用者‐会話:Opp/Dec2007新資料( ja:User_talk:Opp2/Dec2007New documents). Most of them keep the same account name as that of English Wiki in Japanese wiki like the below.

Edit number at ja:竹島 (島根県)(Liancourt Rocks), and ラスク書簡 Rusk documents) since June 1st, 2006. This numbers only include editing the main articles.


 * User:Watermint = ja:利用者:Redpepper (2 edits/ 27 edits)
 * User:Forestfarmer = ja:利用者:Forestfarmer (11 edits/ 8 edits)
 * User:Opp = ja:利用者:Opp2 (9/ 16 edits)
 * User:Jjok =ja:利用者:Jjok (0/ 3 edits)

This forum is all about how to plot the article at English Wikipedia to be toward Japanese POV together. In addition to that, they made mockeries of some editors from the other party and said their failed attempt at Commons to upload their POV inclined images. Their contributions to the article are much much less that here. This listed users would be just not one, but may belong to two or three groups of sockpuppetry.

Among the three groups, Celldea was infinitely blocked for abusive sockpuppetry and disruptive POV pushings at 2006-08-01T10:38:46. And then Cellea reincarnated himself as Watermint here at 2006-08-02T02:25:49. Just 10 hours after the blocking of Celldea. According to the banned User:Celldea's page, he attends Keio University and lives in Minato-ku(東京都港区) in which the university is located and love Boxing, American Football, Basket ball, He seems to be crazy about boxing so became a member of Wiki Project Boxking just like ja:利用者:Redpepper and User:Watermint. They all use Firefox and Miscrosoft Window XP and are interested in history of Japan and Liancourt Rocks and speak intermediate level of English according to their page., User:Watermint.

With this conversation, User:FOB coupe is a collegue student and got to know Wikipedia by Watermint. They seem to live in the same house, or dormitory. Watermint also seems to use ODN as well but if someone appeared to use Keio University ISP, that is him or his socks, or his meatpuppet friend.

I think Jjok and Forestfarmer have other sock accounts like Amazonfire. As for Opp2, he is a persistent reincarnation of the banned User:Kamosuke and freshly banned User:Azukimonaka. I'll add more later. This massive puppet show around Liancourt Rocks has to be stopped. Thanks. --Appletrees (talk) 22:16, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

long discussion moved to talk page. Please try to keep it there. Kwsn  (Ni!)  16:24, 6 February 2008 (UTC)


 * As best as I can determine, all of the named accounts not marked stale are ❌. Some of the IPs are Azukimonaka. Thatcher 04:06, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

These repeated checks requested by Appletrees on Japanese users are starting to become an abuse of process. There has been Requests for checkuser/Case/Amazonfire, Requests for checkuser/Case/KoreanShoriSenyou, Requests for checkuser/Case/Opp2, and now this. Filing checkuser cases is not the way to prevail in a content dispute. Lots of editors plan strategy on articles, that is why we have Wikiprojects. Whether the discussion on jp.wiki is abusive collusion, or something like a Wikiproject, is not something I can judge. If you want to pursue this you have better file a Request for arbitration. Thatcher 04:12, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

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 * Comment I don't request this file whether they're socks of Azukimonaka or not. You didn't tell me whether Cellea is really Watermint or not. That's what I really want to know. That exact matched files of the users' page can be a good evidence, but you also didn't tell. I'm sorry to say that you seem to avoid commenting their relation to the others except Azukimonaka. What I want to know with this case is Watermint is Cellear or Gettystein and Forestfarmer is Amazonfire. The inclusion of Opp2 in this file is to show their meatpuppetry. As you say, checkuser proccess may be not a right place for me to confirm the collusion. However, I can't edit any article related to Japan-Korea especially cuisine or fruit since various account and IP users have tried making edit warrings with me. We do, of course have to plan strategy to back up our claim but do I have to let them alter or blank those articles without proof or with falsified or hoax citations? I'm sincerely sorry to make you feel unpleasant with my RFCU files on them, but if you see and  article, the real puppetmaster is not caught up and blocked yet. --07:21, 7 February 2008 (UTC)