Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/El chulito

El Chulito




—The preceding unsigned comment was added by SameBatTime (talk • contribs) 18:16, 23 March 2007 (UTC).
 * Case letter: D

All accounts set up in same manner and activity follows exact same pattern - then the accounts are left dormant until "needed" in a AfD !vote or other RfC situation etc they appear again with a lot of editing especially on anti-Irish republican issues and then go dormant again.


 * User:El chulito, Created the account 17:55, 26 November 2006, his first edit was to create a user page with an assorted number of user boxes, all alined to the right and never edits his user page again. He then makes 38 edits in a two hour period on US biographies such as, , , . Then the account goes dormant for two months with no edits and reappears 22:55, 20 January 2007 the following day he makes his first edit on a page regarding Irish republicanism here at the Fergal O'Hanlon page. From then on he makes various edits against myself on AfD's, reverts my work and must importantly makes this edit to the Kieran Flemming page where he removes the Irish language name of Kieran and the Irish word for Volnteer - Óglach. And also accuses me on attacking him on talk page note the capital letters. Then !votes on a number of Irish AfD's , , , . And that day (8th Feb) he stops editing and hasnt edited since.

He also used these IP's which I picked up when he sometimes signed over an edit he made when he wasnt signed in -


 * User:216.194.0.99
 * User:65.88.88.214
 * User:216.194.3.132 - these IP's will prove important as he has used computers from the same system again in his new accounts.


 * User:New identity, This was proven as a sock after I reported him this edit on the Kieran Flemming page - which was identical to the edit by El chulito, outlined above.


 * User:O'Donoghue, Follows a similar pattern to El chulito, Created his account with info boxes all alined to the right22:03, 15 August 2006 on his third edit, all aligned to the right and never edits his user page again.

He edits for one day only on a number of pages mostly bios such as, ,. Then the account goes dormant but again reappears 11:43, 1 March 2007 and has been attacking me since them despite the fact I have never come across him before and he made this trademark edit to the Kieran Flemming which he made two days ago. He made this edit which he left an IP almost identical to the above IP's here.


 * User:Conrad Falk, Started 10 Sept 06 makes one days editing then goes dormant and then reappears 9 Feb 07 - again identicial set up procedure to his other accounts.

He states he is Polish living in NYC and going to a NYC uni which ties in with the IP's above. First edits his user page with info boxes and alighed to the right, only once ever edits this page and then some Polish pages then nobility such as Isabel Maria Hamilton-Gordon, Marchioness of Aberdeen and Temair Stewart Gore-Browne Dame Diana Keppel Countess of Albemarle and then moves on to a number of pages on Irish republicanism including AfD's here, here,,  - please note that some these AfD's where not formed correctly and could not be found on the daily register but El chulito, Inthegloaming and Conrad Falk all voted on them.


 * User:Inthegloaming, registered 28 August and edited for a day then reappers six months later soley for AfD's that infact where not even registered on the daily AfD digest. See his short history here.


 * User:Jill Teed, again same set up in terms of the account, same edit profile and turned up on the same AfD's. Additonally used the Americanise spelling of words on these pages like the other accounts


 * Please note I have posted additional information about this on ANI recently, details are here. One Night In Hackney 303


 * , same reason as last time. --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 18:23, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Merged from Requests for checkuser/Case/El Chulito

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El chulito


—The preceding unsigned comment was added by SameBatTime (talk • contribs) 18:16, 23 March 2007 (UTC).
 * Case letter: D

Each of these users have displayed identical characteristics from from their initial setting up of the accounts, to their quick burst of initial activity on subjects such as Polish, Czech, English nobility and Yugoslavian and New Yorkers biographies - then a long dormant period and then when "needed" in a AfD !vote or other RfC situation etc they appear again with a lot of editing especially on anti-Irish republican issues and then go dormant again.

He has used the computers of a New York University library and another computer in Brooklyn, NY.


 * User:El chulito, Created the account 17:55, 26 November 2006, his first edit was to create a user page with an assorted number of user boxes, all alined to the right and never edits his user page again. He then makes 38 edits in a two hour period on US biographies such as, , , . Then the account goes dormant for two months with no edits and reappears 22:55, 20 January 2007 the following day he makes his first edit on a page regarding Irish republicanism here at the Fergal O'Hanlon page. From then on he makes various edits against myself on AfD's, reverts my work and must importantly makes this edit to the Kieran Flemming page where he removes the Irish language name of Kieran and the Irish word for Volnteer - Óglach. And also accuses me on attacking him on talk page note the capital letters. Then !votes on a number of Irish AfD's , , , . And that day (8th Feb) he stops editing and hasnt edited since.

He also used these IP's which I picked up when he sometimes signed over an edit he made when he wasnt signed in -


 * User:216.194.0.99
 * User:65.88.88.214
 * User:216.194.3.132 - these IP's will prove important as he has used computers from the same system again in his new accounts.


 * User:New identity, This was proven as a sock after I reported him this edit on the Kieran Flemming page - which was identical to the edit by El chulito, outlined above.


 * User:O'Donoghue, Follows a similar pattern to El chulito, Created his account with info boxes all alined to the right22:03, 15 August 2006 on his third edit, all aligned to the right and never edits his user page again.

He edits for one day only on a number of pages mostly bios such as, ,. Then the account goes dormant but again reappears 11:43, 1 March 2007 and has been attacking me since them despite the fact I have never come across him before and he made this trademark edit to the Kieran Flemming which he made two days ago. He made this edit which he left an IP almost identical to the above IP's here.


 * User:Conrad Falk, Started 10 Sept 06 makes one days editing then goes dormant and then reappears 9 Feb 07 - again identicial set up procedure to his other accounts.

He states he is Polish living in NYC and going to a NYC uni which ties in with the IP's above. First edits his user page with info boxes and alighed to the right, only once ever edits this page and then some Polish pages then nobility such as Isabel Maria Hamilton-Gordon, Marchioness of Aberdeen and Temair Stewart Gore-Browne Dame Diana Keppel Countess of Albemarle and then moves on to a number of pages on Irish republicanism including AfD's here, here,,  - please note that some these AfD's where not formed correctly and could not be found on the daily register but El chulito, Inthegloaming and Conrad Falk all voted on them.


 * User:Inthegloaming, registered 28 August and edited for a day then reappers six months later soley for AfD's that infact where not even registered on the daily AfD digest. See his short history here.


 * User:Jill Teed, again same set up in terms of the account, same edit profile and turned up on the same AfD's. Additonally used the Americanise spelling of words on these pages like the other accounts


 * Please note I have posted additional information about this on ANI recently, details are here. One Night In Hackney 303 18:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

. Please try to make this easy for us. The narrative doesn't help. After several tries you now say this fits code letter "D," but I can't find a link to the closed vote where this user's votes were the deciding ones, which is what "D" requires. If the situation doesn't fit any of the code letters, we won't run the check even if it almost but not quite fits three of them. If you still want to pursue this, please archive this discussion, then open another request that cites the code letter that applies, then include the diffs for that code letter, and at most a brief narrative with more detail. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 20:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

El chulito





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I believe Our Day Will Come was used by another user to pretend to be a sock of User:Vintagekits. Checkuser has confimed that the Our Day Will Come and Vintagekits accounts are unrelated (see here). Our Day Will Come was newly created and immediately began editing articles Vintagekits was recently involved in with pro-Irish republican slances. This includes the first ever edit of commenting on a case for deletion that Vintagekits was involved in, and voting in the same way |here. The second edit included a short sentance adding "Volunteer" to an article, something that Vintagekits is currently prevented in doing according to mediation |here. The third edit involves helping Vintagekits in an edit war with another user |here. The fourth edit was to remove an "unverified" tag to an image that Vintagekits had added |here. The fifth was to revert to a version by Vintagekits in the Diarmuid O'Neill article, after other users had removed references |here. The other edits are in similar vein. Given the past history of Vintagekits, I don't think he would have thought he could get away with this, and so wouldn't have tried it.

El Chulito, and their legitimate sock User:New identity, has been strongly invovled in disputes with Vintagekits, culminating in incident cases being taken out by Vintagekits on El Chulito/New Identity (see here), and vice versa (see here). I'm trying to get to the bottom of who did it (for the integrity of Wikipedia - me and Vintagekits have a troubled history...), so will put in a few other potential cases. Logoistic 18:58, 2 February 2007 (UTC) --Logoistic 18:58, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * ❌ as far as IP analysis can determine. (More specifically: Our Day Will Come is not IP-related to any other editors.) --jpgordon&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710; 03:31, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

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