Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Pabopa

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Pabopa (2nd time)

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 * -- add new. He is a same with Michael Friedrich.Kao no Nai Tsuki (talk) 11:43, 25 September 2008 (UTC) His edit and mine have nothing in common.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 06:55, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * using dion and (u-tokyo.ac.jp).
 * likely indef.blocked Yuan.C.Lee
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 * possible Azukimonaka
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 * possible Azukimonaka
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 * Code letter: C, D, F
 * Supporting evidence:
 * http://society6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/korea/1218372119/
 * SSP:4.23.83.100, RFCU/4.23.83.100, RFCU/2008FromKawasaki
 * Talk:Sea of Japan
 * AFD/Uriginal, AFD/South Korean cultural claims, AFD/South Korean cultural claims (2nd nomination)
 * AFD/Uriginal, AFD/South Korean cultural claims, AFD/South Korean cultural claims (2nd nomination)
 * AFD/Uriginal, AFD/South Korean cultural claims, AFD/South Korean cultural claims (2nd nomination)

The pattern of the ongoing canvassing by Japanese 2channel forum at South Korean cultural claims is just same as those of Articles for deletion/Uriginal and Talk:Sea of Japan. I think almost same people who participated in the two reappear at the AFD with their same/new accounts. Michael Friedrich who created the article of Uriginal canvassed the AFD to Japanese Wiki, did the same thing to the web forum again. Since several people there suspected him, he left a note at his talk page that nobody believes that he is the real/same person who left a note for the canvassing. I also found something contradictory on his identity from this talk page. According to his introduction, he is supposed to be a native English speaker in Australia, but he also said that I've lived in Japan for more than 20 years. Michael's IP is Japanese dion.ad.jp ISP, which is pretty static. He sometimes appeared as the anon. Besides, almost every members who opposed to deletion of Uriginal, reappeared these days after their long break. Among them, Robert Houdini claims that he is a half-Korean and can speak Korean just like Michael Friedrich. The editor also uses the same ISP along with a school ip of University of Tokyo. He is also obsessed with the Uriginal. In addition, NAZONAZO and Harada 3nosuke who participated in a poll held at Talk:Sea of Japan on Feb. showed up at the current AFD. When NAZONAZO took a vote at Sea of Japan, Friedriech did not appear while NAZONAZO did not even cast a vote at the current AFD. His argument of "Chosun Ilbo and JoongAng Ilbo are just identical to Michael's claims at the AFD. At Prince Shōtoku on which Friedreich edit warred yesterday, NAZONAZO left the similar claim. Given the info, I think Michael Friedrich is same as NAZONAZO and Robert Houndini.

On the other hand, 's first contribution was giving a 3RR warning to whom he never met with the accont  when the socks were edit warring over multiple Korean related articles including Gaya confederacy‎. He reappeared since the AFD opened. The user is harassing me as copying my comments and being dishonest about my editing. I believe the user is either Pabopa, or one of other indef.blocked sockpuppeters due to my previous RFCU. He uses Twinkle in contrast to his new registering and is very knowledgeable of "English Wikipedia" policies. Besides, he only appears on articles that Pabopa's socks showed up and did identical edits. When Propasto tried to remove NPOV/SYNTHES tags, tried to insert the same tags to other articles containing Japanese war crimes and history book controversies., but soon all were reverted by an admin. User:Eichikiyama's insistence at Talk:Tribute are almost identical to Wahtsay's opinion at Talk:Yakiniku. Currently, Propastops is blocked for 3RR violation, and SPA, knows pretty well about me and complicate Wiki policies and takes over the job of collecting Korean editors without any evidences as if he were Propastaop. I think the user is doing fishing expedition. Besides, the user added the same material that Pabopa's socks and Propastops tried to insert Baekje, and Gaya.--Caspian blue (talk) 13:15, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

has been following me and he admitted that he is involved in 2channel. He seems occasionally to edit English Wikipedia, but always followed me whenever I edit Japan-Korea related articles. Everybody at the 2channel have talked about my changed screen ID, but he feigned not to know it. He said he did not visit 2channel these days, but I think he blatantly lies just like his initial denial of his wikistalking. He may have sock accounts associated with aforementioned accounts given that his apt timing whenever a matter related me comes up.

After Watermint's meatpuppeting with, , , , Watermint seems to edit with his sock ips and colludes with other Japanese editors to drive pro-Korean editors to violate 3RR. I think he created his sock and other accounts show similar patterns of the aforementioned editors. --Caspian blue (talk) 11:36, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


 * OK. I'll tell you the truth.  It is true that my IP is "59.141.42.53."  And User:Robert Houdini used the same ID.  But actually, Robert is not me.  It is my brother, who was using the same computer because there was only one in our house.  But he has not been here since last summer.  He graduated from university and went to the States.  You can see that he has not logged in since last summer except that he edited his own page on the 31st of August this year.  It was because he was back during his summer holyday.  That's all.
 * If Robert were my sock puppet, I would have used him here and when the edit wars occured. But Robert did not appear, did he?  That is the evidence that Robert is not me although we used the same IP.  I have no intention to use sock puppets.  Robert is not my sock.  And when I used my IP, I only forgot to log in.  I am usually careful.
 * As for NAZONAZO, it is not me, I promise. Caspian blue said something about the poll held at Talk:Sea of Japan, but I did not even know there was a poll. I edited wiki only twice in February.  If I were his/her sock, why would I have had to refrain from voting then?  And as for the article of Prince Shotoku, I think s/he saw the same website because the site comes at the top when you google "図画見聞誌" or "今則臣属高麗也".  If I were him, why would I have posted such a proposal as this one?
 * As for my introduction, I lived in Australia at the age of 10 to 15. I regard myself as Japanese Australian although my nationality is not Australian.  I live in Japan now.  That's why I said I had lived in Japan for more than 20 years.  I often visited Japan even when I lived in Australia.
 * I have no intention to use sock puppets. It is true that Robert used the same ID as I did but he is not me or my sock puppet and he is away now.  NAZONAZO definitely has nothing to do with me.  This is the truth.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 18:10, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I replied to your talk page with this which tells you some explanation sounds like "brother theory".--Caspian blue (talk) 19:28, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Well first of all this page is getting very cluttered with a whole pile of things all mixed together. As it involves a lot of people I was partly through some of the rest, but I'll need some clearer reasoning which pairs up the people with each other in smaller sets and more clearly. This is becoming a bit of a mess. It's quicker if you just land on my talk page and start a thread under the CU section with the groupings in a more well-separated set.  YellowMonkey  ( choose Australia's next top model ) 09:18, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

++plus++ I add new users. Below list is compiled by me. Some of the edits have been disruptive and may turn out to have been avoidance of 3RR or the block. all of these accounts may be linked with Pabopa or Michael Friedrich.


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If you have time, can you check this too? Kao no Nai Tsuki (talk) 13:56, 25 September 2008 (UTC)


 * ✅ = .  YellowMonkey   ( bananabucket ) 03:52, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Discussion moved to talk. – Luna Santin  (talk) 18:22, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Discussion moved to talk. – Luna Santin  (talk) 18:22, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * , could you also look at these obvious SPAs? --Caspian blue (talk) 12:18, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It sounds like you accuse anyone against you no matter what.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 14:42, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It's been well documented that there are Japanese users who run massive sock farms against Caspian blue. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 01:06, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Discussion moved to talk. – Luna Santin  (talk) 18:22, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Addendum: the additional result by the checkuser. is likely .  is possibly  --Caspian blue (talk) 13:42, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Caspian blue is not a CheckUser (Caspian blue please do not use the CheckUser templates). Also would you mind providing where these results were posted please? Tiptoety  talk 22:51, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Tiptoety, of course, I'm not a checkuser (you don't need to emphasize it), but all I did above was just to copy the result by the checkuser, Yellowmonkey's viewing. I did not know editors are not allowed to use the templates from the result. I already provided the diff and you obviously missed it. It was occurred on his talk page since the checkuser previously asked me to subdivide the people into several groups and posted it on his talk page if I had enough evidences for further examination. All confirmed socks were blocked except Michael Friedrich's confirmed sock --Caspian blue (talk) 23:24, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Take me off this list. Having different opinions regarding edits does not make me a sock puppet. Sennen goroshi (talk) 03:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The hoax RFCU file reported by the disruptive sockpuppeter, Pabopa/Propastop is not deleted, but still exists within Wikipedia. You can't not delete your name here by yourself. Besides, you're not checked out by the YellowMokey. So what is a big deal? --Caspian blue (talk) 04:40, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

The big deal is that my name was added without any evidence whatsoever - someone does not like my edits or my tone, so they assume that I am a sockpuppet. Who is Kao no Nai Tsuki anyway? All I see is an account made about 2 weeks ago, but for some reason this account seems to know about me and my edits. Kao no Nai Tsuki stinks of sockpuppet, but has the nerve to stick my name on this list? If an established wikipedia editor put my name on this list, based on my editing history and/or some technical details, I might have a little more respect, but when a 2 week old account does it, then it has absolutely no credibility at all. I have been accused of this before, and there has never been one piece of evidence to support me ever having used sockpuppets. I have edited with my IP (and at no time tried to hide it) and I have edited with this account. Sennen goroshi (talk) 05:22, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I or many people were added to another RFCU file without any evidence, so the request by obvious sockpupper was rejected accordingly. Whether you like or not, your name was once filed by somebody, since you're not him/her, nor checkuser/cleark, you have no right to remove yourself. The result already came out, and why do you care? You have been proven that you're not related to the above sockpuppeters or even not checked out. This must be relocated to the talk page soon by checkuser clerks. If you have a problem, ask the checkuser or clerk.--Caspian blue (talk) 05:39, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Pabopa

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 * Supporting evidence:
 * User_talk:Stifle
 * User_talk:EdJohnston
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 * WP:ANI
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Same edits with same habits on same articles/ Possibly block evasion as well. --Caspian blue (talk) 19:30, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 1st revert: 2008-07-25T17:13:14 by 210.231.14.222 (OCN)
 * 2nd revert: 2008-07-25T17:50:32 by 210.231.12.98 OCN
 * 3rd revert: 2008-07-25T18:05:22 by 210.231.12.98 OCN
 * 4th revert: 2008-07-26T04:22:24 by 210.231.12.98 OCN
 * 5th revert: 2008-07-26T08:12:58 by Pabopa
 * 6th revert: 2008-07-26T08:18:51 by Pabopa
 * 7th revert: 2008-07-26T08:30:02 by Pabopa


 * Pabopa is not only blocked for his edit warring but also has been topic-banned for disruptive anti-Korean editing for 2 month from today. A new account appears to edit Tribute which is extended article of one of which Pabopa made edit wars. If Teconv is Pabopa, the user is evading the given sanction. --Caspian blue (talk) 04:44, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * When I removed a claim with no citation, Northwest1202 inserted a Japanese version of JoongAng Ilbo news to the claim on Prostitution in Japan. It is proved irrelevant to the claim, then suddenly an OCN ISP user inserted a news from the "same newspaper" to Prostitution in South Korea. This is highly unlikely that they're not the same one. So Northwest1202 is using OCN is undoubted. Besides, Northwest1202 appeared to have the same agenda on rice cultivation right after the same ISP anon vandalised Japanese cuisine like the below,

--Caspian blue (talk) 20:12, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 1st revert 2008-07-19T20:28:07 by 218.43.117.240
 * 2nd revert 2008-07-20T15:33:40 by 218.230.158.39
 * 3rd revert 2008-07-20T15:37:47 by 218.230.158.39
 * 4th revert 2008-07-20T15:44:47 by 218.230.158.39

I add one suspected user at here. exactly same behavior of. 

He possibly use mutiple IDs and Accounts. Manacpowers (talk) 05:53, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh my god. is a open Proxy ip in China. you can find this ip at here proxy list. wow. really sneaky.... Please adminstrator, Please block this disruptive mustile accounts, sock, proxy IP user. Manacpowers (talk) 06:12, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * You have provided evidence for checking Pabopa and Teconv. What is the relevance of the other user names? Thatcher 01:13, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Answer I provide evidence for Northwest and Webcamera as well. Pabopa, Teconv, Webcamera are new editors and Northwest is a returned editor whose editing style is very similar to Blue011011, and Jazz81089. --Caspian blue (talk) 01:23, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Additional info Then, Teconv evades his block sanction and topic-ban. This is writings of Northwest1202 and Blue011011. The three have similar names too.


 * ✅ Pabopa, Webcamera, Teconv, also ; this is the same person as who was previously blocked. Thatcher 01:27, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * that Northwest1202, Blue011011 and Jazz81089 are the same person. Thatcher 01:27, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Confirmed accounts all indef blocked as and tagged as such, Northwest1202, Blue011011 and Jazz81089 have all been indef blocked as well.  Tiptoety  talk 01:57, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Question: Are and  unrelated to the listed people? Because  edited the same article  that  and likely his IP socks edited. Caspian blue (talk) 01:47, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Brionies and Eurodollers are . Thatcher 03:04, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Please see talk page for related cases. Tiptoety  talk 03:22, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Question Is is possible to link with ? Because an ODN IP user suddenly appeared to remove conversation between me and Pabopa. So I checked on the history of the talk page, Pabopa is the anon and uses the same ISP that Azukimonaka also used. Although ODN is a biggest ISP in Japan, Pabopa seems like Azukimonaka or one of indef.blocked users. Can you confirm on this? Thanks.--Caspian blue (talk) 04:10, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It's impossible to say one way or the other. . Thatcher 04:14, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

and, i add some user at here,too. simlar edit with Pabopa once Pabopa indefinite banned. this IP appear. 
 * 210.231.15.201 is also a likely sock. The IP made the same edit and webcamera. Blueshirts (talk) 06:54, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Also User:Bentecbye. Account created on 08/01, right after logitech block. Edit history this and this shows familiarity with wiki editing. Blueshirts (talk) 07:02, 2 August 2008 (UTC)



simlar edit with Pabopa once Pabopa indefinite banned. this IP appear.  Pabopa was a only one person try to change like this style.

Bentecbye are possibly another sock of Pabopa. even other user realized this. Pabopa banned wikipedia editing indefinitely. Bentecbye did exactly same edit like Pabopa. Pabopa was a only one person change kowtow article like that.


 * Pabopa blocked date (01:43, 1 August 2008)
 * Bentecbye account creation date (03:40, 1 August 2008)
 * first edit date (07:37, 3 August 2008)

It is possibly, Bentecbye is banned user Pabopa. after banned, he created new account. and he using IP and accounts same time for avoid 3r violation. Pabopa was a only one person who stick to injo kowtow. Manacpowers (talk) 11:56, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

--- add new possibly sock of Pabopa here. this "new" account suddenly appeared, and he/she is a exactly same behavior with indefinite banned user Pabopa(his sock account is a Webcamera). Pabopa was a only one person who stick to "injo kowtow".Manacpowers (talk) 20:12, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * On technical evidence alone, or maybe  that Bentecbye is Pabopa. 218.218.132.9 is a different editor who has not been named here (yet). Thatcher 13:54, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

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