Wikipedia:Requests for comment/FCYTravis

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Statement of the dispute
''This is a summary written by users who dispute this user's conduct. Users signing other sections ("Response" or "Outside views") should not edit the "Statement of the dispute" section.'' User FCYTravis is an administrator who appears to be abusing his status. He has edited a blocked page, engaged in edit wars, refused to follow the findings of a poll (see Talk:Advocates for Children in Therapy), refused to participate in mediation, called a user a "sock puppet," and misrepresents Wikipedia policy and practice to suit his own needs on the pages he wants. to edit. If you review his talk page you will also see multiple complaints by many other editors. It is unclear where this issue should be raised. It was put on the Administrator's page, but he directed me here.

Description
''{Add summary here, but you must use the section below to certify or endorse it. Users who edit or endorse this summary should not edit the other summaries, other than to endorse them.}'' When sources were provided for the section disputed by FCYTravis, he rejected those citations and sources, despite others finding the sources adequate and cogent. DPeterson talk 22:54, 26 September 2006 (UTC) See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Advocates_for_Children_in_Therapy&oldid=73600469 as an example of sources and citations provided.) DPeterson talk 22:57, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Evidence of disputed behavior
(Provide diffs. Links to entire articles aren't helpful unless the editor created the entire article. Edit histories also aren't helpful as they change as new edits are performed.)
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Advocates_for_Children_in_Therapy&action=edit&section=13
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:FCYTravis on his talk page you can find further examples of his behavior with other, unrelated, editors.

Applicable policies and guidelines
{list the policies and guidelines that apply to the disputed conduct}
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility civility
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No personal attacks
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Resolving disputes
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomer
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume good faith

Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute
(provide diffs and links)
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Advocates_for_Children_in_Therapy#POLL:_End_Protection.2FRevert_to_prev_version two polls
 * Advocates for Children in Therapy several requests for mediation on the talk page.
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Advocates_for_Children_in_Therapy Mediation request and refusal

Users certifying the basis for this dispute
{Users who tried and failed to resolve the dispute}


 * DPeterson talk 12:38, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 * RalphLender talk 13:42, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Other users who endorse this summary

 * GoodCop 05:49, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Addhoc 19:01, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Response
''This is a summary written by the user whose conduct is disputed, or by other users who think that the dispute is unjustified and that the above summary is biased or incomplete. Users signing other sections ("Statement of the dispute" and "Outside Views") should not edit the "Response" section.''

The users above brought this RFC because I have stood up to oppose their campaign of POV-pushing, illegitimate "polls" and false "consensus" on Advocates for Children in Therapy. Before I got to the article, this version, for example, contained such inflammatory, unsourced and blatantly POV language as '''Advocates for Children in Therapy is not recognized nor accepted by the American Medical Association, American Psychological Association, American Psychiatric Association, National Association of Social Workers, or any other large professional organizations. As such ACT is not part of the mainstream mental health professional community and its advice is not sought by these groups. ACT has a number of its articles cited by and posted on Quackwatch which is run by Stephen Barrett. Both groups are controversial advocacy groups.'''

Whether any of the above is true, none of it was sourced - so upon finding the article I requested citations and removed much of it as it was highly inflammatory, negative and without any corroboration. I was subsequently accused of vandalism, and the situation degenerated into a stale edit war. I requested page protection, which was granted. The above two users then magically multiplied into a bunch of oddly-similar names which all had near-identically-slim edit histories to the same set of related pages and proceeded to votestack their own alleged "poll" demanding inclusion of the material I removed. Given that no poll can override Wikipedia's basic reliable sourcing and verifiability policies, I quite rightly simply ignored them. I also refused mediation because there's no point in "mediating" an RS/V issue. Straight to ArbCom with that, if they want.

The very odd thing is that for some time now, the page has been basically stable. We seem to have come to a tacit agreement that what is at Advocates for Children in Therapy now is acceptable to both of us. Thus, it's unclear why Mr. Peterson has chosen to bring this action against me at this time. As for the "complaints from other users," one they're not relevant to this issue and two, they're virtually all related to OTRS tickets which I have been active in responding to - including ones demanding biographies of living persons actions.

Users who endorse this summary:
 * 1) FCYTravis 21:19, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Outside view
''This is a summary written by users not directly involved with the dispute but who would like to add an outside view of the dispute. Users editing other sections ("Statement of the dispute" and "Response") should not edit the "Outside Views" section, except to endorse an outside view.''

{Add summary here, but you must use the endorsement section below to sign. Users who edit or endorse this summary should not edit the other summaries.} I think that FCYTravis has toned down his responses and has presented himself in a more conciliatory and helpful light recently. I disagree with his summary, in part, (I think the statements were eventually given proper citations as the current version shows), but overall think his conduct on the page is question is not really an issue anymore.  Dr. Becker-Weidman  Talk 01:29, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Users who endorse this summary:
 * 1)  Dr. Becker-Weidman  Talk 01:29, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Discussion
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