Wikipedia:Requests for comment/IPSOS

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Statement of the dispute
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Conduct in breach of WP:NPA, WP:MEAT and WP:DE

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 * Cessation of false allegations against User:Coldmachine.

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Evidence of disputed behavior
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WP:NPA - continued accusations of sockpuppetry against User:Coldmachine despite resolution by User:MastCell here. Accusations also listed here, here, here, and a checkuser listed by User:GlassFET who may, or may not be part of a WP:MEAT breach in association with User:IPSOS, here

WP:MEAT - working in tandem with User:GlassFET to cast aspersions on good standing of other wikipedia community members. This is evidenced not only in the above links but also reinforced by editing of this very RfC here.

WP:DE - user has history of causing controversy with edits that are tendentious, reject community input, and with comments/edits which work towards driving away productive contributors.16:29, 13 June 2007 (UTC) See:            22:44, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Applicable policies and guidelines
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 * WP:NPA
 * WP:MEAT
 * WP:DE

Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute
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 * Suspected_sock_puppets/Emnx_%283rd%29 for comments by User:Arthana here, noting allegations against other users including User:Whateley23
 * User:IPSOS wipes and archives any discussion on his/her user talk page without engaging with other wiki users as evidenced here
 * Also see discussion here for involvement of other users, and an administrator.

16:48, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

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 * --Arthana 22:52, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

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 * --Arthana 21:44, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

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Outside view by GlassFET
There is actually a history of sockpuppetry related to Mandrake of Oxford and Articles for deletion/Mandrake of Oxford, as documented in 3 sockpuppet reports and 2 checkuser requests:


 * Suspected sock puppets/Emnx
 * Suspected sock puppets/Emnx (2nd)
 * Suspected sock puppets/Emnx (3rd)
 * Requests for checkuser/Case/Emnx

All reports and the first checkuser were filed by IPSOS. They appear to have been filed promptly and correctly according to process, without incivility or spreading accusations. I opened the second checkuser simply because I am also involved with the articles and the accused users were beginning to rant.

Both Coldmachine and Arthana appear to be fairly obvious socks, though of course appearances can sometimes be coincidental, which is why I opened the checkuser to be sure.

This RfC would appear to be premature, intentionally not waiting for the results of checkuser, and in my opinion is retaliatory, unfounded, and intended to intimidate a user trying to deal with repeated sockpuppetry using the officially sanctioned means. There were good reasons for filing sockpuppet reports and process appears to have been followed correctly.

The user making the accusation has made no attempt to follow official dispute resolution processes. Based on this, this RfC appears to have been made in bad faith, without attempting to resolve the problem in any meaningful way. GlassFET 17:09, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

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 * 1) GlassFET 17:09, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Dcooper 15:44, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Outside view by Dcooper
None of the evidence provided shows any wrong-doing on the part of IPSOS. On the contrary, IPSOS appears to be a productive member of the Wikipedia community. Coldmachine who filed this RFC has also accused IPSOS and GlassFET of being sockpuppets here. This appears to be an attempt to make a WP:POINT and is a waste of time. I recommend that Coldmachine move on. If Coldmachine does not, I would suggest that he be blocked.

Users who endorse this summary:
 * 1) Dcooper 15:44, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) GlassFET 16:23, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Discussion
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