Wikipedia:Requests for comment/KarlBunker

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Statement of the dispute
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Description
''{Add summary here, but you must use the section below to certify or endorse it. Users who edit or endorse this summary should not edit the other summaries, other than to endorse them.}'' For about a month, Karl has been forcing his opinion on Wikipedia's paranormal-related articles. He refers to the rules when it suits his proposes. He's not afraid to contradict himself; he outright violates policies and guidelines such as WP:3RR, WP:V, WP:WEASEL and WP:CN. A request for mediation has been filed to deal with the content part of the dispute.

Evidence of disputed behavior
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 * reverting good faith edits
 * reinsertion of weasel words
 * forcing his opinion into articles
 * calling contributions "moronic"
 * forcing a controversial paragraph into an article, that at the time, failed WP:V claiming it's "obviously" correct.
 * removal of tags requesting citations; and again. He then replaced one of the statements after the editor gave up and removed it. (Note that one of the original statements was incorrect and needed to be investigated and cited: Talk:Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal and the other was a direct quote which was unattributed.)

Applicable policies and guidelines
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 * WP:NPOV
 * WP:WEASEL
 * WP:V
 * WP:CITE
 * WP:CN
 * WP:3RR
 * (at some point, the article claimed that telepaths are lairs. Although it probably wasn't Karl, such a claim violates WP:ATK

Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute
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 * Talk:Telepathy (exchange of unfriendly comments
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 * -- Selmo  (talk)
 * -THB 04:28, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Response
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Outside view by Themindset
This RFC is ridiculous. KarlBunker's edits have been reasonable, scientific, and NPOV (at most, one of his summaries was mildly rude). To say that a parlour game in the Victorian era supposedly involved telepathy is entirely correct - to phrase Wikipedia in ways that quantify unproven phenomena as fact, or matter-of-course, is abhorrent to the sensibilities of any encyclopedic-minded editor. As such, not only is KarlBunker to be commended for his staunch defense of NPOV in such articles, but Selmo should be censured for his/her inappropriate POV editing. Themindset 20:23, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Users who endorse this summary:
 * 1) Partially endorse - Karl shouldn't have contravened WP:CIVIL. Nor should he be commended for defending WP:NPOV, as pushing skeptism is no better or worse than pushing any other belief system. However, this RfC has not demonstrated significant unilateral wrongdoing on his part. Addhoc 21:35, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

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