Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Ozzwald35

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The user Ozzwald35 who has just joined today keeps making blank deletions on the Boxrec.com page regarding the John Duddy issue - he has now broken the 3RR and I do not want to get involved with him as he will not listen to me - can someone else please have a look! Beaumontproject 14:23, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

If I am out of line by adding this I apologize as I am new and do not know how to work the site and I'm just doing what I can to be heard, but I apologize if this is poor etiquette. As to the issue that Beaumontproject speaks of...I have already sent two e-mails to wiki administrators several hours ago about the issue. Please do look into it though if you have power to do something about it.

Beaumontproject continues to post criticism that is complete nonsense that he bases on an argument that he and another pal had from an internet message board which they now have a grudge against, which anyone with any research knowledge knows that a flame war from an internet message board is not a valid source.

Another editor and myself have tried several times to explain to Beaumontproject that an argument from an internet message board is not a valid source yet they continue to ignore that.

Being that you know the difference can you enlighten Beaumontproject that an arguement, or anything from an internet message board is not a valid source...he will not listen to me, or another editor about it, but since he has seeked your help then maybe you can let him know what is and what isn't a valid source!

Now the rules of the site state that editors should discuss and try to come to an agreement, but Beaumontproject and Vintagekits are only interested in posting the bogus criticism claim that got them banned from another site instead of listening to what we tried to tell them...that an argument from an internet message board is not a valid source and has no business being presented as fact. The page is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxrec.com which it is normal now as I deleted the criticism claim. Though I'm sure that we could probably use the stats for boxrec that is up on the Boxrec mediawiki page as it does what wiki does and describes the site...but it doesn't list any beef, which is what Beaumontproject wants to continue to post. As I said I sent two e-mails to wiki administrators several hours ago, but if you can do something a lot of people, including myself, would be grateful. Again, I apologize if I am contacting you in the wrong manner.--Ozzwald35 14:42, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

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Below is the Talk Page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Boxrec.com

As well as my User Talk page, which I had heard that it is considered poor etiquette to post an issue on a persons User Talk page, but anyway...here it is!--Ozzwald35 15:04, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ozzwald35

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If I am out of line by adding this I apologize as I am new and do not know how to work the site and I'm just doing what I can to be heard, but I apologize if this is poor etiquette. As to the issue that Beaumontproject speaks of...I have already sent two e-mails to wiki administrators several hours ago about the issue. Please do look into it though if you have power to do something about it.

Beaumontproject continues to post criticism that is complete nonsense that he bases on an argument that he and another pal had from an internet message board which they now have a grudge against, which anyone with any research knowledge knows that a flame war from an internet message board is not a valid source.

Another editor and myself have tried several times to explain to Beaumontproject that an argument from an internet message board is not a valid source yet they continue to ignore that.

Being that you know the difference can you enlighten Beaumontproject that an arguement, or anything from an internet message board is not a valid source...he will not listen to me, or another editor about it, but since he has seeked your help then maybe you can let him know what is and what isn't a valid source!

Now the rules of the site state that editors should discuss and try to come to an agreement, but Beaumontproject and Vintagekits are only interested in posting the bogus criticism claim that got them banned from another site instead of listening to what we tried to tell them...that an argument from an internet message board is not a valid source and has no business being presented as fact. The page is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxrec.com which it is normal now as I deleted the criticism claim. Though I'm sure that we could probably use the stats for boxrec that is up on the Boxrec mediawiki page as it does what wiki does and describes the site...but it doesn't list any beef, which is what Beaumontproject wants to continue to post. As I said I sent two e-mails to wiki administrators several hours ago, but if you can do something a lot of people, including myself, would be grateful. Again, I apologize if I am contacting you in the wrong manner--Ozzwald35 14:57, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

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This is nonsense - I have never banned from any website, all I am doing, and other have joined in the debate, is report the issue that has been ragging on Boxrec for months now and its probably the hottest topic on Boxrec - as the article is about Boxrec then it should be reported. My article was well written and well referenced and you vandalised it. You joined today and all you have done is delete the article without attempting to edit and reason.

If you had a problem with the article you should have highlighted that in the discussion area instead on making wholesale deletions! Beaumontproject 14:38, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

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As I stated elsewhere I apologize if I am going about this in the incorrect manner, but below is what I posted to a couple of other long-time members:

If I am out of line by adding this I apologize as I am new and do not know how to work the site and I'm just doing what I can to be heard, but I apologize if this is poor etiquette. As to the issue that Beaumontproject speaks of...I have already sent two e-mails to wiki administrators several hours ago about the issue. Please do look into it though if you have power to do something about it.

Beaumontproject continues to post criticism that is complete nonsense that he bases on an argument that he and another pal had from an internet message board which they now have a grudge against, which anyone with any research knowledge knows that a flame war from an internet message board is not a valid source.

Another editor and myself have tried several times to explain to Beaumontproject that an argument from an internet message board is not a valid source yet they continue to ignore that.

Being that you know the difference can you enlighten Beaumontproject that an arguement, or anything from an internet message board is not a valid source...he will not listen to me, or another editor about it, but since he has seeked your help then maybe you can let him know what is and what isn't a valid source!

Now the rules of the site state that editors should discuss and try to come to an agreement, but Beaumontproject and Vintagekits are only interested in posting the bogus criticism claim that got them banned from another site instead of listening to what we tried to tell them...that an argument from an internet message board is not a valid source and has no business being presented as fact. The page is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxrec.com which it is normal now as I deleted the criticism claim. Though I'm sure that we could probably use the stats for boxrec that is up on the Boxrec mediawiki page as it does what wiki does and describes the site...but it doesn't list any beef, which is what Beaumontproject wants to continue to post. As I said I sent two e-mails to wiki administrators several hours ago, but if you can do something a lot of people, including myself, would be grateful. Again, I apologize if I am contacting you in the wrong manner.--Ozzwald35 14:32, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

This is nonsense - I have never banned from any website, all I am doing, and other have joined in the debate, is report the issue that has been ragging on Boxrec for months now and its probably the hottest topic on Boxrec - as the article is about Boxrec then it should be reported. My article was well written and well referenced and you vandalised it. You joined today and all you have done is delete the article without attempting to edit and reason.

If you had a problem with the article you should have highlighted that in the discussion area instead on making wholesale deletions! Beaumontproject 14:38, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

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--> This user has joined today and just deletes all my contributions to the Boxrec.com page regarding the John Duddy issue.