Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Sarner

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Statement of the dispute
''This is a summary written by users who dispute this user's conduct. Users signing other sections ("Response" or "Outside views") should not edit the "Statement of the dispute" section.'' User:Sarner has been disruptive on the Bowlby article and Candace Newmaker article. He has a history of being banned previoulsy on the Bowlby page for being disruptive and uncivil. He is engaged in similiar behavior. He refuses to follow Wikipedia dispute resolution procedures despite several requests from me and other editors. He will not follow the clear consensus on both those pages.

Description
''{Add summary here, but you must use the section below to certify or endorse it. Users who edit or endorse this summary should not edit the other summaries, other than to endorse them.}'' User:sarner reverts to his version without engaging in consensus buildinig or considering that other editors disagree with him. He has a vested interest in his position as he is a leader of the advocacy group Advocates for Children in Therapy (ACT) and he wants all mention of that group deleted from the Candace Newmaker article. He is author of the book used as a reference on that page. His work as an advocate for ACT has led him to have a seeming vendetta against certain therapy methods.

Evidence of disputed behavior
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 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:John_Bowlby&action=edit&section=37
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:John_Bowlby&action=edit&section=38
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sarner&action=edit&section=6
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Candace_Newmaker&action=edit&section=15
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Candace_Newmaker&action=edit&section=16
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Candace_Newmaker&action=edit&section=17
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Candace_Newmaker&action=edit&section=20
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sarner&action=edit&section=15 example of uncivil and confrontational behavior by Sarner

Applicable policies and guidelines
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 * NPOV
 * Civil
 * Disruptive Editing
 * Tendentious Editing
 * followoing Wikipedia dispute resolution procedure and policies
 * adhering to the consensus view
 * adhering to the results of a poll
 * considering mediation or other appropriate form of resolution
 * continued disruptive behavior by continued reverts.

Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute
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 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:John_Bowlby&action=edit&section=17
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:John_Bowlby&action=edit&section=33
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sarner&action=edit&section=9
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sarner&action=edit&section=12
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sarner&action=edit&section=13
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sarner&action=edit&section=14

Users certifying the basis for this dispute
{Users who tried and failed to resolve the dispute}


 * DPeterson talk 03:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
 * RalphLender talk 14:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Other users who endorse this summary

 * JonesRD talk 21:00, 20 October 2006 (UTC)...well I have suggested on the various talk pages that he participate in dispute resolution procedures such as mediation or a poll...

Response
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Discussion
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User:Sarner has been disruptive on the Bowlby article and Candace Newmaker article. He has a history of being banned previoulsy on the Bowlby page for being disruptive and uncivil. He is engaged in similiar behavior. He refuses to follow Wikipedia dispute resolution procedures despite several requests from me and other editors. He will not follow the clear consensus on both those pages. 11:42, 20 October 2006 (UTC)