Wikipedia:Requests for comment/TMC1982

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Statement of the dispute
User:TMC1982 has created dozens of list and articles that most often Content Forks on Comic book, Cartoon, Sci-fi, Fantasy genres that Violate fudenmental policies of WP:NOR, WP:SYNTH, and all against consensus.

Desired outcome
"It is suggested TMC1982 should be limited from creating articles without first presenting the idea to the relevant Wikiproject and getting at least two positive responses to before Creating such articles"

Description
These artilce most often require attention from AFD, Speedy Deletions and Prods, Almost all are redirected, deleted or merged to pre-existing articles. This has been going on way to long merely looking at the archives of this user talkpage is enough to cause concern.

Evidence of disputed behavior

 * User's Talk Page archive between 24 January 2010 and 5 May 2010, it is filled almost Exclusiley at the time of this RFC all with Courtesey notices of AFDs, CFDs, and Prods
 * More examples including Templates for deletion, Including Warning for Personal attacks

Applicable policies and guidelines

 * Moving against WP:CONSENSUS
 * repeated violations of WP:SYNTH
 * WP:NOR

Evidence of trying to resolve the dispute

 * User:Staxringold: And no you are not solely responsible, but when you are the one adding the content yes you are at least partially responsible. I'm not going to take time out of my day to fix wildly messy references you add that add little to articles already recognized by he community to be of high quality]
 * David Fuchs: Hello, I'd ask that you stop creating and modifying categories relating to Star Trek. On one hand, there's the question of whether we need categories that will hold at most three or four items (:Category:Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home). Secondly, you are mislabeling many articles with improper categories (Genesis II (film), Yesterday's Enterprise. I don't want to have to go back and clean up these issues.
 * J Greb: Bluntly: 1.The list you are protecting fall into the style that have been flat out deleted through AFDs - back filled, carbon-copy lists you have created from the "In other media" sections of other articles. 2.The relevant lists were created and moved out of being sub-pages of the DCAU master list. Sadly I got distracted by other thing and didn't finish the clean up/removal of these "lists". 3.Thank you for reminding us all that they need to be wound up

Evidence of failing to resolve the dispute

 * another batch of AFDs
 * Recreation of previously deleted category.

Users certifying the basis for this dispute
{Users who tried and failed to resolve the dispute}


 * Weaponbb7 (talk) 22:09, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Staxringold talkcontribs 04:33, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 15:40, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * J Greb (talk) 18:49, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Other users who endorse this summary

 * It's unclear why the user is behaving this way, and I'd much prefer they stop on their own, but the bottom line is cleaning up after them is wasting the valuable time of other editors and admins. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  18:33, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * After a test AfD (which confirmed that such articles would not survive AfD), I've just spent my time PRODding 47 more almost identical articles. And someone else will have to waste their time actually looking at the PRODs and deleting the articles in 7 days time.  I'm almost tempted to IAR speedy them. Black Kite (t) (c) 23:33, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Snotty Wong  babble 00:02, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * -- Cirt (talk) 02:04, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Response
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Outside view by Snottywong
It is much easier to create a huge mess than it is to clean it up. As a frequent contributor to XfD's, I find TMC1982's talk page archive to be a troubling nightmare. It's clear that a majority of the copious quantity of articles this user has created have been deleted. The ones that haven't been deleted have been redirected to articles that already cover the subject. What's even more troubling is that this user appears to never even comment at the XfD's for the articles that he/she has created (at least in the ones I looked at). This pattern of behavior suggests that this user is equivalent to a bull in a china shop, creating scores of useless articles and, seemingly without caring or even noticing, leaving everyone else to clean up his mess. I imagine that this pattern of behavior will continue and we won't see a response in this RfC from the user in question. Since each article this user creates wastes the time of 5+ editors, it is not at all unreasonable to limit this user's ability to create new articles. As such, this user should be prohibited from creating new articles/categories without approval from an admin or a relevant wikiproject, or if that is not possible or practical, they should be prohibited from creating new articles/categories under any circumstances. 00:02, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit: It also appears that this user's behavior has not changed as a result of this RfC; he/she is still creating articles and categories. Since this user appears unwilling to listen or even contribute to discussions about their behavior, the only tool we have left to fix the situation is to force a topic ban upon them. 17:43, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Users who endorse this summary:
 * 1)   Snotty Wong   yak 00:05, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) - J Greb (talk) 05:50, 19 August 2010 (UTC) (see the notes left on the talk page)
 * 3) Weaponbb7 (talk) 13:05, 19 August 2010 (UTC) Support the Addition to the View Weaponbb7 (talk) 17:47, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) Perhaps they should have to run anything new past a mentor first. Black Kite (t) (c) 17:21, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) Precisely what I said to TMC in our meetings. You aren't responsible for single-handedly fixing the project, but when you dump the content into an article it's not unreasonable to expect you to take on some of the load (not inserting massive unformatted references and expecting others to format them for you, eg). Staxringold talkcontribs 17:29, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) -- Cirt (talk) 02:04, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) -- &oelig; &trade; 07:46, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

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