Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Tina M. Barber

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 * (Tina M. Barber | talk | contributions)

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Statement of the dispute
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Description
First, I apologize to anyone who'll be looking through this RfC -- it is rather long and convoluted, however, the issues in question have been going on for months. Since early December, the abovementioned user has been heavily involved in Talk:Shiloh Shepherd Dog, where there is an ongoing dispute about how multiple POVs should be included in the article. The editor has habitually violated WP:NPA, WP:CIVIL, WP:AGF and WP:NPOV during these discussions in an attempt to push her POV. The editor also has difficulty with WP:V and WP:NOR, creating webpages on her personal site to verify the POV she would like to include. The editor has not made any contriubtions outside of this article.

This is not to say that there are not others involved who have also lacked civility at times as well. This is obviously a long standing dispute that has spilled into Wikipedia, but, frankly, it doesn't belong here. After almost two months of attempted mediation, only one small section has been resolved due mostly to the discussion constantly being hijacked to promote POV or make attacks.

Evidence of disputed behavior
Inserts POV original research about other parties into article , , 

Attacks other registries , , , , , , , , , , , , Reveals editors name and employer, makes threats (this edit has been deleted due to the personal information contained therein) ,

Attacks other editors , , , , , , ,

POV pushing including spamming her site and creating new pages on her site , , , , , , , ,, ,

Reveals other editors names and attacks , , , , ,

Advocates deletion of article if her POV isn't included, shortly after, meat puppets converge to agree , , , , , , 

Brings meatpuppets to staw poll on article history , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , 

Borderline legal threats

Applicable policies
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 * WP:CIVIL
 * WP:NPA
 * WP:AGF
 * WP:V
 * WP:NOR
 * WP:NPOV
 * WP:TPG
 * WP:EQ

Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute
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 * Entire contents of editor's talk page User talk:Tina M. Barber
 * Mediation requested ,
 * Requests for civility and good faith, , , , , , , , ,
 * Attempts to resolve article dispute, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,

Users certifying the basis for this dispute
{Users who tried and failed to resolve the dispute}

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 * .:.Jareth.:. babelfish 22:22, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
 * ShenandoahShilohs 00:13, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
 * MilesD. 00:15, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Other users who endorse this summary
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 * S Scott 01:55, 31 January 2006 (UTC)S ScottS Scott 01:55, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Gwyllgi [[Image:Flag of Wales (1959–present).svg|25px|  ]] 02:03, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
 * WindsongKennels 05:51, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Dartagnan 00:39, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Robert McClenon 12:44, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
 * NobleAcres 17:21, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Shiloh Supporter 20:37, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
 * The blatant refusal to acknowledge NPOV is the most troubling to me. (ESkog)(Talk) 05:03, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Suzy G. 13:12, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * iamgateway 23:53, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Saginaw 14:32, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I have to agree with ESkog on this one. Compu  te  r  Jo  e 14:43, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * PJBJ 04:04, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Trysha (talk) 15:56, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Response
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Outside view
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I came across the dispute on the talk page when User:MilesD. posted a notice about the revealing of personal information on Administrators' Noticeboard/Incidents. I refuse to take sides in the dispute itself. Not just because I'm trying to be on a full-stop wikibreak (which I'm not really succesful at :s), but also because I have no idea what the dispute is about (I'm a cat person myself). Having said that, I am shocked at Tina M. Barber's behaviour on the talk page. I'm particularly shocked by her posting of personal information (name, job, employer) at the talk page. She went on to threaten that user to contact his employer, saying that he was surfing from his workplace (and I understand that she has indeed contacted the employer). This is beyond belief. Even someone with no knowledge of the specific wikipedia policies on user privacy should have known that this was out of bounds. When she was warned, she continued this behaviour. It did become more innocent (e.g. the use of first names in a conversation), but I believe that in the light of the warning she received for her previous violation, she should have refrained from even this. Wikipedia has become the new battle ground for a dispute that has presumably originated outside this project. While wikipedia shouldn't take sides in the conflict itself, it should judge the behaviour that those involved show on wikipedia. I believe that Tina M. Barber has violated not just the applicable policies and guidelines listed above, but also, and probably most prominently, Harassment (an official policy). She has demonstrated "a pattern of disruptive behavior that appears to a reasonable and objective observer to have the purpose of causing negative emotions in a targeted person or persons, usually (but not always) for the purpose of intimidating the primary target." She has posted "another person's personal information" which placed the other person "at unjustified and uninvited risk of harm in "the real world" or other media." Aecis Mr.Mojorisin' 11:50, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Users who endorse this summary (sign with ~ ):
 * 1) Aecis Mr.Mojorisin' 11:50, 3 February 2006 (UTC) (as the outsider itself)
 * 2) Robert McClenon 18:22, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
 * .:.Jareth.:. babelfish 18:40, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
 * ||| Miles.D. [[Image:Space_buddy2.gif|31px| ]]|||02-6-2006 20:05 (UTC)
 * 1)  Dartagnan  20:39, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
 * 2) S Scott 20:51, 6 February 2006 (UTC)S Scott
 * 3)  Gwyllgi  [[Image:Flag of Wales (1959–present).svg|25px|  ]] 22:31, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
 * 4) NobleAcres 01:23, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * 5) This whole thing makes me sad.  Mangojuice 18:25, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * 6) Very poor behavior. -Will Beback 22:36, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * 7)  PJBJ 04:07, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
 * 8) Trysha (talk) 15:56, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Discussion
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