Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/FuriousFreddy and OmegaWikipedia

User:FuriousFreddy and User:OmegaWikipedia
User:OmegaWikipedia has been cauing trouble for myself and several editors, in reguards to their attempts to cleanup legnthy music articles written by him, filled with POV, fan-magazine language, and a lack of conciseness. He resits any changes to "his" articles that he does not agree with, resulting in edit and revert wars with users such as User:Extraordinary Machine, User:Mel Etitis, and he appears prepared to drag myself into one as well. He complains that I "yell" and "rant" without telling him what's wrong, when in fact I have informed him what is wrong several times, in long and explicit detail, for the better part of a year: see Requests for comment/Pop music issues, User talk:OmegaWikipedia/Old Comments, User talk:OmegaWikipedia/Old Comments Part 2, and User talk:OmegaWikipedia. He responds to people telling him he's doing wrong with dramatic replies, accusations of "not liking" the music or musician in question, accusations of harboring some sort of "personal vendetta" against him, of being biased against new music, and the erroneous accusation of not informing him what is wrong.

I am not sure if he actually pays attention when people tell him what's wrong, or if he simply prefers people tell him what's wrong with each article each and every time (which should essentially result in my simply having to copy and paste the same response over and ovcer again). He in fact demands that he be informed of any changes to "his" articles when they are being cleaned up. There are also issues with the disagreement of perons working to condense articles for songs (for example, We Belong Together) filled with excessive detail, and long lists of multiple chart positions and remixes, to the point that the article is hard to read and does not reflect Wikipedia's quality standards. I have never run into an issue such as this where users refuse to allow cleanups to "their" articles, and take such possessive ownership of them. This results in my being dragged into back-and-forth debates, which last for hours (or even days) with no resolution. I don't know if he prefers making enemies over the Internet, but I am not about to become his, or allow him to consider me as his.

Another related proble involves his and several others' vote-stuffing on AfD. Several unneccessary articles have been written, including some on the characters from the film Glitter and seperate articles on songs that Mariah Carey, Christina Aguilera, Whitney Houston, and others have covered (resulting in seperate versions of, for example, "Santa Claus is Comin' to Town" or "The Star-Spangled Banner".

Hoping to prevent direct blame towards him in particular, I filed the RfC above as a general issue referring to the articles in question; no sort of consensus has come of it. My instinct and common sense tells me to simply leave him and those beleaguered articles alone (which, of course goes against the very principles of the Wikipedia). Since he seems to think I don't like him, and he therfore refuses to listen to me, perhaps someone else could get through with him.

I'm not the only person to tr to get through to him, but I've made probably the most valiant effort. However, I honestly have better things to do than to argue with people over possession of Wikipedia articles. There are other articles that need work, and that can be improved without conflict, and there are better things that I could be doing outside of WIkipedia as well. I don't want to clean these articles up or inforce my own personal views on them, all I want is for them to be cleaned up to conform to encyclopedic standards, and be readable, neutral in tone, unbiased, concise, and clear.

Perhaps modern popular music, attracting the interests of persons such as him, will never be accurately covered here in readable articles tha agree with all standards of Wikipedia editing and encyclopedic standards in general. In such a case, if it means relieving myself of stress and valuable time wasted, then leaving hundreds of Wikipedia articles broken and in a poor state of quality is the only reasonable decision I can make unless definitive is done about this issue. This is my last attempt at resolution before blissfully ignoring the problem becomes the main directive. --FuriousFreddy 18:05, 22 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I'll leave a message at Omega's talk to see if he'll accept. R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 20:23, 22 October 2005 (UTC)


 * OmegaWikipedian says he's not rejecting or accepting as of now, but he may accept soon, so I'll just template this to save space... R  e  dwolf24  (talk) 00:06, 26 October 2005 (UTC)