Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Magic: The Gathering

Magic: The Gathering

 * Editors involved in this dispute
 * 1) – filing party


 * Articles affected by this dispute
 * 1) Magic: The Gathering
 * 2) Collectible card game


 * Other attempts at resolving this dispute that you have attempted
 * Talk:Magic: The Gathering
 * CombatWombat42's talk page
 * Leitmotiv's talk page

Issues to be mediated

 * Primary issues (added by the filing party)
 * 1) Sources state Magic the Gathering is the first CCG in primary and secondary sources. One secondary source states it's the first "modern" CCG but does not offer a precursor nor citations for this claim. CombatWombat42 has edited this in the past on the Collectible card game page almost a year ago, and now again on the Magic: the Gathering page. He has offered no source that provides an example of a non-modern CCG, because none exist.

While this is pending, I have gone an deleted the suspect secondary source from Guinness stating that Magic is a "modern" CCG. The reason being that the source itself is contradictory. While it offers nothing on pre-modern CCGs, in the same breath it also mentions that Magic is the "the origin, indeed the very Genesis, of [CCG]s." So it doesn't know if it is coming or going. Meanwhile mounds of valid secondary sources state Magic is the first CCG, since the new references added note this specific card genre was created in 1993 (with the advent of Magic).


 * Additional issues (added by other parties)
 * Additional issue 1
 * Additional issue 2

Parties' agreement to mediation

 * 1) Agree. Leitmotiv (talk) 22:18, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Decision of the Mediation Committee

 * Reject. Fails to meet prerequisite to mediation #4, "A majority of the parties to the dispute consent to mediation." For the Committee, TransporterMan  ( TALK ) 19:51, 28 November 2014 (UTC) (Chairperson)