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Both are repeatedly removing references to the Armenian Genocide, or describing it as a hoax, in Turkey-related articles. They make identical edits. Earlier multiple IPs did the same but they are stale. Ömer Nasuhi Bilmen was created on 4-8-20 and has 46 edits. Shubuhat was created on 5-14-20 and has 67 edits. Examples in articles:
 * Eastern Anatolia Region: Omer , followed by Shubuhat
 * Van, Turkey: Shubuhat, followed by Omer  , followed by Shubuhat  MelanieN (talk) 03:05, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Comments by other users
''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' He points here out, the article has sockpuppets [] and [] ironic and hypocrite Shadow4dark (talk) 13:34, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I found the maaster. In People's Protection Units was edited by socks of User:Drankcarat/User:RandomAccount1235423 and the socks, User:MehmetFarukSahin User:OnurKocaman and User:Ömer Nasuhi Bilmen Shadow4dark (talk) 17:14, 19 July 2020 (UTC)


 * They edit the only same paragraph in "Recruitment of minors" and nothing else[] [] And the last known sock i know is User:MilesSmilesNow Shadow4dark (talk) 17:36, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Both of them created near-identical drafts as their first edits, compare Special:Permalink/949771392 by Omer Nasuhi Bilmen (not an autobio, by the way, given that the subject is 50 years dead) and the later version Special:Permalink/952843069 with Special:Permalink/956571470 by Shubuhat. They also both have very similar POVs, as Melanie pointed out ("what Armenian genocide?") and both have a strong interest in Muslim topics and Turkey. They also both have the shared quirk of ending their edit summaries with a period. There's more than enough there to block on behavior, I'd even say . I'm requesting checkuser based on my gut. they both just seem a little too comfortable with Wikipedia syntax and the like, I suspect there may be another master in play. GeneralNotability (talk) 03:52, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * For reference, I think the IPs Melanie is referring to are:
 * (based on the history of 12 (number), I'm dead certain from a behavioral perspective that they're at least one of these two editors)
 * (reverts in Eastern Anatolia Region)
 * Both are indeed stale, but noting here in case it helps anyone. The two geolocate to Turkey (what a shock), apparently a cell provider, and both are part of Special:Contributions/176.33.48.0/21. GeneralNotability (talk) 03:57, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Just to add there is another IP with the same behave.


 * (Van, Turkey reverts, same edit summary).Mr.User200 (talk) 13:18, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The two accounts are ✅, and they are also editing logged out extensively. I'm pretty sure this is an LTA but I can't remember which one. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:10, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Since this might be an LTA, . GeneralNotability (talk) 14:11, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I did see those accounts but when I checked they didn't appear related so I didn't mention them. I haven't re-checked and so I have no finding to report, but they should be evaluated on behaviour. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:23, 19 July 2020 (UTC)