Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/İsmail Kendir/Archive

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Same sort of POV-pushing: passing Islamic beliefs as objectively true in the voice of Wikipedia. tgeorgescu (talk) 17:20, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Schutschutschut quoted WP:DIRC freshly writen by Çiçək naxışlı su şüşəsi. tgeorgescu (talk) 17:45, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Quoted WP:DIRC. Similar behavior and writing style. VQuakr (talk) 18:12, 15 June 2021 (UTC)


 * he claims it would be contrary to NPOV to state in the voice of Wikipedia that Jesus has died (since Muslims believe he didn't).
 * İsmail Kendir and Çiçək naxışlı su şüşəsi are both Turkish usernames (yup, the point above the I is specifically Turkish).
 * Kendir's POV stated clearly:.
 * All three users advocate the POV that one cannot give the lie to Islamic religious beliefs, such as Jesus did not die, read Don't ignore the religious creeds for details, it isn't a long essay. tgeorgescu (talk)  12:34, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

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 * I need more information. Are there diffs that show similar editing patterns, the addition of the same content, or other evidence that shows that these accounts are operated by the same person?  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   12:03, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Also found and ✅:
 * Bagging and tagging all accounts. This SPI can be closed...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   12:58, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Also found and ✅:
 * Bagging and tagging all accounts. This SPI can be closed...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   12:58, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Also found and ✅:
 * Bagging and tagging all accounts. This SPI can be closed...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   12:58, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Bagging and tagging all accounts. This SPI can be closed...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   12:58, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Bagging and tagging all accounts. This SPI can be closed...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   12:58, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Bagging and tagging all accounts. This SPI can be closed...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   12:58, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Bagging and tagging all accounts. This SPI can be closed...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   12:58, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Bagging and tagging all accounts. This SPI can be closed...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   12:58, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Bagging and tagging all accounts. This SPI can be closed...  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   12:58, 16 June 2021 (UTC)


 * . --Blablubbs&#124;talk 13:13, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

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Similar offensive political username as previous accounts, same pro-Islam POV pushing (see their deleted user page and the userbox currently at MFD). Already blocked as a sockpuppet on the Turkish Wikipedia, but I don't know if the block was based off checkuser data. Requesting a CU because last time it turned up a huge number of sleeper accounts. 192.76.8.91 (talk) 18:00, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

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 * ✅, no other socks immediately visible. I'll request a global lock. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:01, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

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Similar offensive slurs to previous socks of this guy. Might request a sleeper check if it's possible. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 16:50, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

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 * Thanks, as I filed a lock request for not only this guy, but other previously blocked socks that are awaiting locks. DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 10:22, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

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 * - Blocked as WP:ATTACK for the moment, pending CU results. Checking for sleepers seems like a good plan.  NOTE:  goes stale in a week or so. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:46, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * The following accounts are all ✅ to each other. (Note that some are already blocked, and some may not exist due to abusefilter or antispoof blocking account creation)
 * . ST47 (talk) 02:56, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * . ST47 (talk) 02:56, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * . ST47 (talk) 02:56, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * . ST47 (talk) 02:56, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * . ST47 (talk) 02:56, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * . ST47 (talk) 02:56, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * . ST47 (talk) 02:56, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * . ST47 (talk) 02:56, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * . ST47 (talk) 02:56, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * . ST47 (talk) 02:56, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * . ST47 (talk) 02:56, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * . ST47 (talk) 02:56, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * . ST47 (talk) 02:56, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

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Found when running a check on Nikah kadın ile erkek arasında olur for being LTA-like (to find further accounts). Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 17:46, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

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All three ✅ to the master through. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 17:46, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 17:53, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Tagging and closing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  23:03, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

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Creationist and anti-LGBT edits by changing the sentences not found in the source material, editing biology articles inappropriately to differentiate between animals and humans. His other puppet account has edited Ebrar Karakurt already and banned. After a couple of days or so this new account starts to do the same edits. Gogolplex (talk) 09:32, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * I've spoken quite a lot with Kendir's socks on the Turkish Wikipedia, and the editing pattern really resembles him. First of all, this account has the Islamist POV of believing humans are not animals, just like his other sock on tr wiki, with his edit summary saying "Contrasting with the belief that humans are not primates in Islam". Note that the username is hidden, because it was abusive, though checking the history of the talk page, it reveals that the sock in question is this, who also edited the English Wikipedia on the same date.


 * As said above, he also has a problem with Ebrar Karakurt, with a different sock making this edit earlier this month, and now we have Owerthise doing more or less the same (small note: the name of the sock should probably be hidden as it calls a living person a terrorist).


 * His interest on the page 31 (number) comes from 31 being used to describe masturbation among social media in Turkey, more specifically younger people use it (similar to how 69 is used elsewhere). Another sock, User:Ğ ve SJ (litt. Ğ and SJ) also resembles this internet culture, with Ğ meaning close to "bruh" and SJ meaning "not funny".


 * Creation of weird/borderline abusive redirects like tr:LGBTQIAPN+ (P standing for pedophilia, N for necrophilia, don't remember A, it redirected to LGBT) and tr:Anancılık (Meaning [Your] mom-ism, have no idea where this redirected to) with a previous sock, Austrian painter and tr:George Puşt with this account (Puşt means Prick, it redirected to George W. Bush).


 * He works a lot with IPA. Sock master, this account. And both of them are wrong. How nice.


 * Also note that this account has been indeffed on trwiki for vandalism and for being, not so nice, on his talk page. You see where this is going? To here Special:Diff/1037763594, Special:Diff/1039791978....


 * For me this is a pretty obvious duck which doesn't need a check, but might be good to take a look at it again to see if he has created even more socks. ~Styyx Talk? ^-^ 16:19, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * ✅, blocked and tagged along with . .-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:54, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Looks like everything is in order, closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 07:52, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

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Disruptive edits in the form of bigoted BS identical to that recently produced by User:Owerthise, who was blocked as a sock of İsmail Kendir. bonadea contributions talk 17:32, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

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 * : . Chighchighchigh is using exactly the same language that Owerthise did, with only a few cosmetic differences in their changes: (compare  and ). The accusations of non-neutrality are also similar. The personal attacks and harassment are reason enough for a block, but it seems clear this is a sock. . clpo13(talk) 17:47, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

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Largely repeating verbatim edits by a previous sock - see here and here. Also, similar accusations of non-neutrality (here) as prior socks (example here). FyzixFighter (talk) 04:58, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

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 * Already confirmed and blocked by . Tagging, lock requested, closing.  Girth Summit  (blether)  12:00, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

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WP:DUCK Kadı    Message   17:56, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

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 * ✅ -- RoySmith (talk) 21:17, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

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Edits on Trwiki and Enwiki. Kadı   Message   17:11, 19 May 2022 (UTC)


 * His first edit is about Islam in enwiki. In trwiki he edits Atatürk and Ali Erbaş articles in order to attack Atatürk and homosexual people. Please look at the diffs.  Kadı    Message   06:26, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @Jack Frost Kadı    Message   06:27, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

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 * This edit, claiming that Islamic mythology is actually the "" sort of resembles the POV of numerous Kendir socks (just look at the archive). They've also been trying to game the system on with their multiple random edits and reverts on their user page to get autoconfirmed (a.k.a. knows how shit on WP works despite being a "brand-new" user). While it might simply look like some random bullshit, it's actually a clue: this exact thing was also done by Ubādāt ul-Dhikrī (October 2021) and Akh of an akh (February 2022). This alone might be just pure coincidence. Then I checked their trwiki contribs—oh boy. First of all, Kendir is active in both projects and almost all created accounts have edits on both enwiki and trwiki, which is also the case here. In this edit, he removes the word "homophobic", which is there to show that the remarks made by the subject of the article are, in fact, homophobic. But Kendir sees homophobia as a normal thing, and has done this with previous socks—Owerthise and Chighchighchigh—on Ebrar Karakurt: 1, 2, 3, 4. In short, despite the sheer lack of cross-wiki contributions (15), they manage to leave behind so many clues.
 * On a different note unrelated to this account, I found —already partially blocked by —who made this set of edits to Ebrar Karakurt, identical to Owerthise's edit I've linked above. Even the block reason resembles Kendir: see this edit, also arguing that humans are not animals. Again, trwiki contribs are also pro-Islam. See this edit summary on Wikiquote claiming that the article WP article of Karakurt is "unneutral". We've probably missed this one, but it's also a duck. At this point I don't mind protecting the article for stuff like this, because he keeps going after the same page. ~Styyx Talk ? 17:20, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Courtesy ping . ~Styyx Talk ? 21:05, 27 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @Styyx yes, just protect. Doug Weller  talk 13:58, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

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 * --Jack Frost (talk) 02:01, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * - The evidence provided by Styyx is reasonably convincing. I'm endorsing for a sleeper check since the sockmaster has used multiple accounts concurrently in the past. Unfortunately the last reported sock just went stale a few days ago, but comparison to log data should be possible. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 20:51, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
 * - -- RoySmith (talk) 23:31, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
 * All of these are ✅ -- RoySmith (talk) 23:44, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Requested locks. Spicy (talk) 23:59, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

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WP:DUCK. Kadı   Message   17:13, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

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 * See this revision of Kendir's user page, where MasplayTR is one of his other names. The sole contribution of the account has basically the same intent as this from an already blocked sock. ~Styyx Talk ? 17:36, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

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 * Following accounts ✅:
 * . ST47 (talk) 17:53, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * . ST47 (talk) 17:53, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * . ST47 (talk) 17:53, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * . ST47 (talk) 17:53, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * . ST47 (talk) 17:53, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * . ST47 (talk) 17:53, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * . ST47 (talk) 17:53, 11 December 2022 (UTC)