Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Дејан2021/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
I have reason to suspect that "Camelia249" is a sockpuppet of "Дејан2021".

For context on how Дејан/Dejan has been disruptive, he was engaged in an edit war at Oldest people and was blocked for this.

As soon as his block expired, he resumed the edit war and was blocked again. After this block expired, Dejan resumed edit warring for a third time. He was reported at AN3 and subsequently indefinitely blocked.

Two weeks after being indefinitely blocked, Dejan threatened to make a sock account ("is it possible to unblock this account or I will create a new one?"). His talk page access was revoked because of this. Not even a week following this, "Camelia249" was created.

This user's contributions are almost exclusively comments in the original Oldest people talk page thread in which Dejan was an active participant before he was blocked. All of Camelia's diffs on this page have since been suppressed (and their content removed), but this edit at WP:AN still exists, in which the user claims to be a granddaughter of Ilie Ciocan (the birthdate of whom was the subject of debate at the Oldest people talk page). This user requests that the entire discussion surrounding Ciocan be deleted, yet makes the same exact argument Dejan makes on his talk page before his access is revoked: that sources agree on Ciocan's birthdate after all. The same exact sources are cited in both diffs. In fact, this is the reason Dejan wants to be unblocked: "Now you need to unblock my account because it turns out I was right and not the trolls. [...] GRG corrected the errors a few weeks before LQ... Now LQ has corrected the same."

Moreover, two separate times, Camelia claimed to delete their own comments from the original discussion thread at Oldest people, but in the process deleted other users' comments as well (see edit summaries from DerbyCountyinNZ [05:02, 16 June 2024‎] and Primefac [12:17, 16 June 2024‎]). Deleting other users' comments is something Dejan has done before; see DerbyCountyinNZ's edit summary on 07:53, 16 May 2024‎: "Do NOT delete other users talk page comments without an extremely good reason, otherwise you will likely receive a longer block."

Back to Camelia, it is conspicuous that they tried to hide (using "" ), rather than delete, a comment—surprising for a "new" Wikipedia user to know how to do. Moreover, the comment the user attempted to hide has nothing to do with their supposed grandfather, but rather with Dejan: "with this user banned I'm sure we can get to the bottom of this...".

I hope that this is evidence enough to suggest that these two accounts may belong to the same person. Thank you for your time. Softmist (talk) 08:13, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Comments by other users

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * ✅, --Blablubbs (talk) 00:49, 24 June 2024 (UTC)