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Suspected sockpuppets



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Identical editing in Rojava (this and this) and perfect complementary statements in talk:Rojava within a short time frame. Lightspecs (talk) 12:48, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

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lol go ahead and have me checked. Im not that guy even though I agreed with his argument there. The reporting user is apparently angry that I noticed him violating 1RR. 171.97.79.145 (talk) 12:54, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
 * did you notify عمرو بن كلثوم about this investigation?--SharabSalam (talk) 21:41, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Not enough evidence presented to merit a block. Article is semi-protected, which is enough to contain disruption. Closing with no action. TonyBallioni (talk) 23:52, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

 * ( original case name)

Both are mainly editing in Syrian Kurdish articles. عمرو بن كلثوم being topic banned from Kurds and Kurdistan. عمرو بن كلثوم was strongly interested in adding to Kurdish Syrian articles such as

here,

here in the Arab Belt or

here] in Al Hasakah Governorate.

Eventually they were suggested to create an article on the Kurdish immigration to Syria by Konli17,

Here and

here,

which they didn't create until they were t-banned. New Aramean then

created

an article on the Kurdish immigration into Syria and to date is the only article they created.

Most of New Arameans edits are related to the Kurdish presence in Syria also in

the Sandbox.

Both choose similar titles for their discussion such as Unexplained ... removal ... like

here by عمرو بن كلثوم

and

here by New Aramean

Nicely seen at the Arab Belt talk page as both discussion are one above another but over 1 year of a time span in between. Similar issue, the demographic (tables).

I suspected New Aramean to be عمرو بن كلثوم from the start but let them edit for as long as they do not disturb other editors and restart the battleground behavior. Now they came into

a dispute at Syrian Kurdistan with another editor and

again tried to add

the demographics to the Arab Belt and for me that's enough. Last time I invested quite some time in researching and accessing sources

here and

here and to prove them wrong. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 11:04, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

And on the checkuser request. I am not really sure what to say but I believe there are enough diffs. It's my first SPI report.

New development. The Arabic article Kurdish immigration into Syria created by New Aramean, was created by عمرو بن كلثوم, I just noticed that today.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 04:59, 4 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @Yamla I was indef. blocked for much less, also by a checkuser. I was not disruptive at the time, even reverted an anti Kurdish vandal just before. There were no discussions at the talk page regarding any concerns, etc.... If you don't block them, someone needs to give an explanation to me.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 00:34, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Here the report on me. No diffs, no evidence presented,... no notification to my talk page etc. Indeffed without talk page access. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 19:50, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

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I am not realy sure what user paradaisechronicle is trying to do here besides covering for his/her non-tolerance for other opinions. They deleted materials I added from reputable sources, but it seems they goes against their POV pushing agenda, so they raised this false flag. I am using the Talk pages but they delete materials without discussion. They put non-sourced accusations of "ethnic cleansing" in the infobox for the Arab Belt article. The population tables about the Jazirah province are all over WP and they are in older version of some articles, so what's the problem if I add them or somebody else does is? Thank you. New Aramean (talk) 22:04, 29 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Well it's interesting you use the same author as the Amr did in the past. A dispute around Hamza Mustapha existed also in November 2020 which Applodion discussed with Amr at the very same page. Amr was a fierce defender of Hamza Mustapha, and according to the comment Applodion made, he didn't use the source correctly.  Paradise Chronicle (talk) 10:41, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

They might be sockpuppet of Konli17 who is socking since 2008. Shadow4dark (talk) 22:16, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * I am a checkuser, not a clerk. This case is currently awaiting a clerk to endorse or decline the request. As an opinion only, I suggest running a checkuser here would make me uncomfortable; that is, I think this could be declined. --Yamla (talk) 21:50, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree with that there isn't enough evidence here to make me comfortable running a checkuser. Given that I'm not even comfortable running a checkuser, and this case has sat open for a month, I'm going to go ahead and close it as having insufficient evidence to prove a connection. Reaper Eternal (talk) 20:45, 24 July 2023 (UTC)