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See Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive943. Both accounts are part of a massive sock-farm on Japanese Wikipedia with its own LTA page. The Tegbo account, along with at least 23 others, was apparently created on Japanese Wikipedia after the indefinite block of ダルメーター in order to get around the block, which makes it a block-evasion account that is evading a block that isn't even in effect on this project. Since the original block was not on English Wikipedia, it would probably not be a violation if he continued to use his original account, and only his original account, on other Wikimedia projects, but ...

I can't establish if either account has done anything individually blockworthy on English Wikipedia. I don't know anything about boxing or from which websites he might have copy-pasted text, which is apparently what led to his initial block on ja.wiki. If there are no other policy violations here, then I guess he can continue editing under one account on en.wiki, but the undisclosed/not-blocked alt-accounts are a problem, and when asked to disclose on en.wiki that he had another account he blanked the message.

Requesting CU since I'm not sure what other accounts he's used on en.wiki.

Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 01:20, 21 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Wait, really? I thought CU could go ahead with one named account. Kauffner (the only example I've followed from the start) has been CUed multiple times years after the master account went stale.
 * Anyway, at least one of the accounts should be blocked before this case is closed. Not sure if it's the one who has made only four edits or the one who was created as a sock of the one who made only four edits. If anyone wants a translation of the Japanese LTA case I can work on that, but pinging two Japanese-proficient sysops as well.
 * Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 02:12, 21 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Okay, didn't expect to have to do this legwork, but:
 * Bob5, Bo-r5, Ahozu, Ado-1 and Abz-2 never edited Japanese Wikipedia (in some cases didn't edit any Wikimedia projects) but were apparently blocked on ja.wiki as socks, which I guess was based on CU info from their login histories. This is significant because I am honestly doing my best to figure out how these accounts came to be blocked based on what I know, and I don't have any idea how these limitations of CU work. I know that's kinda the point, but ... well, I've been met with what looked like either snark or suspicion a few times (once recently) when I made inquiries about CU that are apparently impossible or unreasonable under certain vague circumstances that are not apparently outlined anywhere in WP:CHU.
 * didn't edit English Wikipedia but apparently logged in on October 24.
 * didn't edit English Wikipedia but apparently logged in on October 24.
 * didn't edit English Wikipedia but apparently logged in on October 28.
 * didn't edit English Wikipedia but apparently logged in on October 30.
 * didn't edit English Wikipedia but apparently logged in on November 13.
 * didn't edit English Wikipedia but apparently logged in on November 15.
 * didn't edit English Wikipedia but apparently logged in on November 28.
 * didn't edit English Wikipedia but apparently logged in on December 1.
 * didn't edit English Wikipedia but apparently logged in on December 4.
 * didn't edit either English or Japanese Wikipedia but was apparently blocked on ja.wiki based on login info, and apparently logged in to English Wikipedia on December 4.
 * Several other confirmed socks logged in to English Wikipedia before October 21. I was unable to find any other accounts that have edited English Wikipedia.
 * Not sure if the above would be enough to re-request CU, but it should be enough to justify a DUCK block of all but one of the accounts.
 * Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 03:01, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

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The master is. CU declined.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:44, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I feel like if you ignore the activity on jawiki, none of this would qualify for a block, especially not the accounts that haven't edited. Getting a global lock at meta would be a more effective solution, though at this stage I'm not sure there's enough activity outside jawiki to justify that. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 05:59, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Close. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 02:12, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

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Please watch ja:Wikipedia:進行中の荒らし行為/長期/ダルメーター.

and are blocked by sockpuppetting, and classfied Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of ドグリ. And above-mentioned page, ドグリ and サマカツオ are classfied sockpuppet of ダルメーター. So, we should block ダルメーター for sockpuppeting act. Nickel 2 Train (talk) 06:14, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

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The actions at ja.wiki, without more, are not sufficient for us to take action here. You must list suspected puppets and present evidence in the form of diffs or this report will be closed.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:37, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
 * No response. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:30, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

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Indefinitely blocked in the Japanese Wikipedia, ダルメーター has created hundreds of sockpuppets until now. There is an LTA page for ダルメーター in the Japanese Wikipedia (ja:Wikipedia:進行中の荒らし行為/長期/ダルメーター, abbreviated as ja:LTA:DARU).

The main account is stale in the English Wikipedia now, but 23.222jp's last edit here was 19 June 2020 and アントリュース's last edit here was 30 June 2020. These two accounts got blocked as ダルメーター's sockpuppets on 8 July 2020 in the Japanese Wikipedia. ゴングロう's last edit here was 9 September 2020.

ダルメーター's edits and ゴングロう's edits at World Boxing Super Series and 2018–20 World Boxing Super Series – cruiserweight division are similar, adding unsourced future schedules (Compare diff: 1 and 2 at the former article; 3 and 4 at the latter article).

Additionally, ゴングロう's edit at ja:World Boxing Super Series is similar to 's edit at the same article, changing ブラゾフ to ブラソフ (Compare diff: 5 and 6). バッテリー指定 got indefinitely blocked as ダルメーター's sockpuppet in the Japanese Wikipedia.

Having seen their persistent sockpuppetry in the Japanese Wikipedia, I think it's only a tip of the iceberg. Requesting CU to check for sleepers. 153.227.194.109 (talk) 11:20, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

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 * I ran a check because the accounts are blocked as sockpuppets of this master on jawiki, and they have edits here. 23.222jp is . アントリュース and ゴングロう are to each other. The following account is ✅ to アントリュース: . I don't think this master is very active on enwiki to be honest; I'm not sure I see the rest of the proverbial iceberg under the water that the SPI filer alluded to. Given that the master is not even blocked here on enwiki, I don't see any reason to block these accounts here. Closing with no action. Mz7 (talk) 21:01, 22 September 2020 (UTC)