Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/190fordhouse/Archive

Evidence submitted by Carmaker1
All 4 users have a behavior pattern that consists of changing dates on music single and album pages. As well as not communicating with other users on their talk page. I linked them by edits to a Harris County school district article, LL Cool J, and Mariah Carey articles. The first 2 make unsubstantiated changes to music by both Michael and Janet Jackson, plus their respective siblings. Other artists are involved as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Statmo1921 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stafford_Municipal_School_District&action=history http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SonnywithaChancefan http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Leave_Me_Alone&diff=327964368&oldid=326764333 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Leave_Me_Alone&diff=315849758&oldid=310309913 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Emotions_%28album%29&diff=prev&oldid=331390319 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Emotions_%28album%29&diff=322447520&oldid=319825354 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Emotions_%28album%29&diff=333393579&oldid=332449996 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Always_Be_My_Baby&diff=prev&oldid=330369154 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Always_Be_My_Baby&diff=329337641&oldid=328481037 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Always_Be_My_Baby&diff=337871948&oldid=332116428 Carmaker1 (talk) 04:13, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

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 * This revision history shows all three named user accounts editing a common article.


 * The next few edits are on Leave Me Alone. Two of the accused editors make the same edit. 190fordhouse makes the change from 1987 to 1988. Then it gets changed back by an anonymous user. Several months later Statmo1921 makes the same change to 1988.


 * On the Emotions (album) article: Statmo1921 makes a change that's reverted a month later. Another month passes and SonnywithaChancefan makes the identical edit. 190fordhouse makes an appearance shortly thereafter.

Dawnseeker2000  06:08, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


 * It looks like a person is using multiple accounts and is editing in a disruptive manner with each of them. That's what we have at the moment. The primary user (190fordhouse) has been contacted via their talk page many times without response. So this is what it has come to. We're asking for help. Dawnseeker2000   16:34, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

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Requested by Carmaker1 (talk) 04:13, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

please provide a code letter, and also explain, for we poor clerks who are not familiar with the articles, what in your view constituted abusive sockpuppetry. Tim Song (talk) 11:04, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

– There is probable reason to believe sock puppetry is going on here, especially after looking at the Stafford Municipal School District article. –MuZemike 03:24, 27 January 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ - all three - A l is o n  ❤ 08:27, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Socks indefinitely blocked and tagged, sockmaster blocked 2 weeks. Leaving the IP as-is. –MuZemike 08:32, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Am86
This user makes a habit of deliberately adding false release dates to single and album recordings. Here is a typical example:
 * August 2 2009: blocked user 190fordhouse includes a false release of date December 29, 1991 for La Toya Jackson's smash hit "Sexbox". In reality, that single's release date is not known at this time and 190forhouse did provide a reference.
 * April 25 2010: User 98.198.170.141 re-adds the hoax release date.

Compare the contributions of banned sockpuppet J-Dizzley95 and 98.198.170.141. Here is another example of tampering, this time in the article for La Toya Jackson's From Nashville To You album:
 * September 22 2009: User 190fordhouse adds an unreferenced and fraudulent release date of August 1, 1994
 * April 2 2010: 190fordhouse's sockpuppet makes another change to the release date, this time adding August 13 1994.
 * April 24 2010: User 98.198.170.141 adds fake singles and fake release dates. In fact, no singles were released to promote From Nashville To You. Later that day, I discover the rampant vandalism to that article by 190fordhouse and apparently unrelated vandal ReeceyGD. I excise these lies.
 * April 26, 2010: User 98.198.170.141 re-adds hoax release date of August 13, 1994.

All accounts make edits using the same made-up information. 190fordhouse aka J-Dizzley95 aka 98.198.170.141 has added fake release dates to all of La Toya Jackson's singles and albums and has probably included made-up facts to many other articles which have yet to be discovered. I have had to revert all of this user's hoax edits. This user's vexatious revisions should be ceased. Am86 (talk) 01:17, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

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 * Blocked 3 months –MuZemike 02:04, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Am86
He's at it again.
 * Sockpuppet adds fake singles for Stop in the Name of Love (La Toya Jackson album)
 * Sockpuppet adds fake release date for Don't Break My Heart (La Toya Jackson song)
 * Sockpuppet adds fake release date for Free the World
 * Sockpuppet adds fake release date for Just Wanna Dance
 * Sockpuppet adds fake dates to From Nashville to You
 * Sockpuppet makes a racist and violent edit to Cheese (recreational drug)
 * Sockpuppet makes disruptive edit to Jonathan (name)

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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
IP blocked 12 hours. It looks fairly dynamic. –MuZemike 15:20, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

 * At least 10 in the 208.54.83.0/24 range, maybe more
 * At least 10 in the 208.54.83.0/24 range, maybe more
 * At least 10 in the 208.54.83.0/24 range, maybe more
 * At least 10 in the 208.54.83.0/24 range, maybe more
 * At least 10 in the 208.54.83.0/24 range, maybe more
 * At least 10 in the 208.54.83.0/24 range, maybe more
 * At least 10 in the 208.54.83.0/24 range, maybe more
 * At least 10 in the 208.54.83.0/24 range, maybe more

Evidence submitted by Shadowjams
Vast majority of the edits involve changes to music articles, often Latin artists, and include lots of date changes or additions. None have any explanation or sourcing, and all IPs locate to the same geographical area. The first IPs are on the same /24; the last one is on a different ISP but makes the same kind of edits and in a few cases edit the same articles in succession. Shadowjams (talk) 18:30, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I added another IP editing the same articles, sometimes in tandem, doing the same kinds of changes. Same geographical region. Shadowjams (talk) 18:34, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
No additional sleepers. 98.198.174.0/24 hardblocked 1 month. –MuZemike 03:10, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Shadowjams
New sock IP of Sockpuppet investigations/190fordhouse/Archive, very active (rangeblock still in place on 98.198.174.0/24). Passes duck test on its own, but also see User:208.54.83.66 for similar changes (and some back-to-back edits as well). Was active, but recently ceased Shadowjams (talk) 05:18, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
208.54.83.0/24 blocked 2 weeks (not a CU block; CU was not used). –MuZemike 14:14, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Shadowjams
Some of the major ranges have been blocked but I've noticed a resort to a few usernames. The Miguelg account is a duck for 190fordhouse and remains active. Whatever range that's running on should be checked for sleepers, both accounts and IPs. The Limmerine one is different. Instead of changing dates it has been changing track lengths and album lengths, again almost exclusively. There is a lot of overlap in terms of article choice. Request a CU for sleepers or a link between them. If the Limmerine account is indeed linked then it opens up a whole new type of errors to look for and perhaps other IP ranges. The 76.31 IP is currently blocked but I don't think it's been linked to this SPI before, and based on the account type it's possibly a primary IP (or at least the range). Shadowjams (talk) 19:52, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

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, bordering on based on technical evidence. Two different sets of user agents in two slightly different physical locations. I'm afraid this may need to be determined via behavioral evidence. –MuZemike 20:00, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
 * To clarify, Limmerine is, and I have no comment with regard to the above-reported IP address. –MuZemike 20:06, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
 * An initial look at behavior suggests to me that Miguelg and 190fordhouse are related, but not Limmerine. Miguelg and 190fordhouse have 47 articles that they have both edited. There are two articles edited by both Limmerine and Miguelg, and one article that all three have edited. I'll look a bit more before calling anything per WP:DUCK. --  At am a  頭 19:15, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm less convinced after looking closer. I think the overlap between Miguelg and 190fordhouse is a coincidence due to volume, and the fact that they both restrict themselves to music topics. Considering that each editor has had thousands of edits, an overlap of 47 articles doesn't seem remarkable. Another problem is that Miguelg is much older than 190fordhouse, by more than a year. I don't see any confirmed sockpuppets of 190fordhouse created earlier than the presumed sockmaster account. Looking through the editing history of both accounts, I don't see the two editors working on the same article at the same or similar times. Neither editor has ever communicated in edit summaries or on talk pages, so there's nothing to go by there. Basically, I'm considering the behavioral evidence to be inconclusive, and since the technical evidence suggests that it's unlikely, I'm going to determine that these editors are unrelated. That doesn't mean that I don't have a concern about an editor that never uses edit summaries, or communicates in any other way, and doesn't use sources. That behavior is worth looking into certainly. --  At am a  頭 20:27, 22 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Closing per Atama's digging. -- DQ  (t)  (e)  03:12, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Shadowjams
188 edits over less than 48 hours, all obvious examples of fordhouse. Shadowjams (talk) 08:52, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Same IP as in one of the September 6 round of blocks. The editing resumed almost immediately after MuZemike's hardblock on the range expired (98.198.174.0/24). Shadowjams (talk) 19:14, 11 October 2010 (UTC)


 * New as of September 20. Initial edits are mostly to car articles, some of which were removed by regular contributors to those pages, but none of them are suspicious. However on September 24 there begins to be multiple music edits including     ... and more. Then there's a whole string of recent edits over the past few days similar in nature. This and then this are highly suspicious, particularly given the others like it. The edits to the car pages are different and seem to often involve removing "predecessor" cars. I don't know about the accuracy of those changes. The 208 and 98.198 ranges were blocked at the time. Shadowjams (talk) 06:03, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
98.198.174.81 blocked 6 months as that specific one goes quite a ways back with the disruption. Let's try that before blocking the /24 again. –MuZemike 19:18, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Merged case as it was submitted by the same person and only one new user. -- DQ  (t)  (e)  12:07, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Kevjgav is ❌ –MuZemike 22:23, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

01 December 2010

 * Suspected sockpuppets


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The sock has been using the 208.54.83.* range over the last few weeks.

I personally went through everything of *.72's and cleaned it up, but the following need to be cleaned up as well I've cleaned up: 208.54.83.56, 208.54.83.61, and 208.54.83.66. There may be others though. Shadowjams (talk) 00:50, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
The vandal seems to be on a fairly busy mobile range, which will not be blocked at this time due to the timing of the vandalism (well over a week ago) and the potential for collateral damage. Re-report if the disruption resumes from this range (208.54.128.0/19 or 208.54.0.0/17 according to the WHOIS). –MuZemike 21:29, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

06 April 2011

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Same edits as before, although some expanded scope of edits. This is a primary fordhouse IP, although others exist (detailed in previous reports) Shadowjams (talk) 01:44, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

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Blocked 1 year. Elockid  ( Talk ) 01:51, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

13 April 2011

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Primary fordhouse IP, resumed similar edits. Other IP was blocked recently, this one is active again Shadowjams (talk) 02:33, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

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 * IP blocked 1 year for evasion —  Hello Annyong  (say whaaat?!) 02:46, 13 April 2011 (UTC)