Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/23prootie/Archive

Evidence submitted by Elockid
Block evasion by 23prootie. 23prootie has been indefinitely blocked due block evasion. Several of their IP's were blocked for 1 month for block evasion and WP:DUCK including these:



All IPs geolocate to the same province, which is Rizal, Philippines, and roughly the same area in that province.

The IP I listed is in the same range as as 119.95.7.96 and editing the same target articles (Philippine topics or Southeast Asian topics) as 23prootie. A recent edit on this IP reinstated the same edit as 23prootie.


 * 23prootie's edit
 * 119.95.7.96's edit

119.95.15.211 is also around the same IP range and editing the same target articles/genre as 23prootie. Elockid ( Talk·Contribs ) 22:33, 3 November 2009 (UTC)a

Another IP, 119.95.5.169, same IP range, editing the same articles/target area. This user added the same edits as 23prootie. Papua New Guinea and the Republic of China were added to the article Southeast Asia by 23prootie. The IP added the same piece of information.


 * 23prootie's edit
 * 119.95.5.169's edit

Elockid ( Talk·Contribs ) 13:19, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

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Conclusions
119.95.0.0/20 blocked 1 month for block evasion. MuZemike 22:17, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Elockid
Seems to be block evasion again or at least impersonation or meatpupettry.

In both these instances, the editor signed as 23prootie:
 * first edit
 * second edit

Taken from an ANI report. Another anon user. signed as 23prootie. This seems to be the same thing that's happening here.


 * 23prootie signing

A bit odd that they're editing same target articles and signing as 23prootie. What both these IPs have in common is that they don't geolocate to the same place (different from the standard 23prootie IPs from the Philippines) but they're experiencing the same behavior. Note that 122.53.101.148 was blocked for a month due to blatant block evasion even. Elockid ( Talk·Contribs ) 23:35, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

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Comments by other users

 * The IP (200.51.203.200) is an open proxy, which I've blocked. -- zzuuzz (talk) 12:23, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Conclusions

 * Blocked and tagged.  ceran  thor 16:13, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Elockid
The IP added the same edit as the last IP which was an open proxy (check previous investigation). Both IP's added pictures Vanessa Hudgens and Norah Jones to the infobox of Asian Americans. This seems to be the same thing that's happening here:


 * 200.51.203.200's edit (blocked open proxy)
 * 202.108.50.6's edit

This probably won't be the last IP though since 23prootie's main IPs are now blocked. Elockid ( Talk·Contribs ) 17:53, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

 * A user blocked the IP.  ceran  thor 19:26, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Conclusions

 * IP has been blocked.  ceran  thor 19:27, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by JL 09

 * 
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 * Posting disruptive comments and edit summaries on the link above.-- JL 09  q? c|undefined 15:56, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

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Comments by other users
I can concur with JL 09. Same target articles and same behavior. Same location as 23prootie and obviously is not a new user. Note that this IP has been blocked as a duck as 23prootie and was blatantly lying per the ANI threads they were involved in (see the IP's contribs). This IP was previously used on the same day but was switch to 124.104.42.21 but is evidently 23prootie per this edit and this edit. From the previous investigations, it was showed that the IPs signed as 23prootie. This isn't the first time 23prootie has been block evading. Is a rangeblock feasible for the for the 124 IP's since he appears to be IP hopping? Elockid ( Talk·Contribs ) 17:01, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

CheckUser requests
Requested by  JL 09  q? c|undefined 15:56, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

per clear behavioral evidence. This IP range has been used before by 23prootie. MuZemike 19:39, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Conclusions
124.104.32.0/20 blocked, as noted at WP:AN. MuZemike 19:39, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Elockid
Same IP range as 23prootie, same target articles, and same everything as the last 124.104.xxx.xxx. Is it possible to have a longer rangeblock for 124.104.32.0/20 since from the last investigations, 23prootie's IP's are changing within that range daily? Elockid ( Talk·Contribs ) 04:16, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
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Comments by other users
Both of those IPs seem blockable under WP:DUCK alone; they're obviously 23prootie. I won't implement a block as I've had various run ins with this editor (though he is now blockable by any admin on sight). I don't know much about block ranges, but 124.104.x is probably too broad. Semi-protecting the articles he's targeting might be the best option. Nick-D (talk) 07:09, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Conclusions
Re-blocked for a longer period of time. MuZemike 19:06, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by NuclearWarfare
Looking for sleepers per WP:ANI. <b style="color:navy;">NW</b> ( Talk ) 11:54, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

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CheckUser requests
Requested by <b style="color:navy;">NW</b> ( Talk ) 11:54, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
No obvious sleepers. J.delanoy <sup style="color:red;">gabs <sub style="color:blue;">adds 17:01, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets


Same target articles and behavior as 23prootie, see last socks. This latest interest on User talk:RightCowLeftCoast's talk page, same as these other IP socks, and  and also targeting the same editor.

Furthermore like 23prootie, Buhay Tao had a named in the Baybayin script. Buhay Tao was originally User:ᜊᜓᜑᜌ᜔ ᜆᜂ. 23prootie also "renamed themselves" under the same script:.

Please also see Talk:Tagalog language especially User:JL 09's comment.

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Comments by other users
I agree with this report. This series of edits in the Pacific War article continues 23prootie's long-term edit warring in this article, and is probably grounds for a block per WP:DUCK when combined with the other similarities. Nick-D (talk) 07:40, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
 * If you can provide diffs comparing the socks with these accounts, that would be great, too. –MuZemike 08:00, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Requested by <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 21:57, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

23prootie I'm pretty sure has been using other IP's or maybe even other accounts. Considering that 23prootie was a highly active editor, I doubt that, he will be giving up Wikipedia soon especially since from the last investigation, he is block evading. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 21:57, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

–MuZemike 19:29, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

✅  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket! ) 08:03, 3 February 2010 (UTC)


 * OK, never mind, then about the diffs. Buhay Tao indefinitely blocked and tagged. I'm not going to bother with the IP has there has been no activity from there in almost a month. –MuZemike 08:06, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Elockid
Brand new account, looks to be a continuation of the last sock that was recently blocked.

Quite awkward that the first edit (I wouldn't call this typical of a new user) was to DYK a field in which 23prootie was also involved in. These diff of Buhay Tao editing "Enchanta" on the DYK, and Reincarnata editing the same exact place.

As a note, 23prootie has also edited the article Mandisa. The socks from the last IP's investigation show 23prootie heavily involved in Philippine topics especially Talk:Philippines of which Reincarnata looking to be continuing what Buhay Tao was discussing on Talk:Philippines. So really, the articles so far have been the same, mainly with DYK and Talk:Philippines. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 23:55, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

There is no way that this is a new user. This IP cmt part of a rangeblock from the previous investigation advocated the same thing including adding 23prootie. 23prootie never joined in the discussion, the account anyways, but their socks did. There is no way that this account would have known any of this. None of their edits are typical of a new user. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 19:45, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
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Comments by other users

 * Based on their contributions I have no doubt that this editor is 23prootie. Accordingly, I have indef blocked the account. Continuing 's DYK nomination as their first edit and and picking up their arguments at Talk:Philippines are give aways, and the remainder of the editing pattern is consistent with that of 23prootie and his/her other socks. The user name alone (which apparently translates to 'reincarnation') is also highly suspicious. Nick-D (talk) 22:02, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * This editor admitted being (and hence 23prootie) in this edit on their talk page following the block. Nick-D (talk) 05:13, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Self-endorsing for CheckUser attention. If this is another sock, then there is likely sleepers and underlying IPs also. –MuZemike 02:16, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The account is editing through a proxy. Dominic·t 06:50, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Commenting on Dominic's report. It really doesn't surprise that the account is editing through a proxy. 23prootie full well knows about Checkuser and would do anything to try and get detected including deliberately lying who he is and using open proxies (there's an ANI thread on this). 23prootie from the last investigations used open proxies such as and  to try and bypass the rangeblocks MuZemike made. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 17:12, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Reincarnata has been blocked. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 22:00, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

already blocked and tagged on behavior. Tim Song (talk) 18:26, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Elockid
New account that seems to be continuing edits from the previous 23prootie socks. Most of the edits the HoppingHare has done is to the article Loren Legarda, an article that 23prootie's sock, User:Reincarnata editing. A further connection can be seen with 23prootie heavily editing the article Loren Legarda in Tagalog Wikipedia.

Also, the edits between Tagalog and English wikipedia are striking aside from the Loren Legarda article. Examples are Philippine Senate election, 2010 which in Tagalog, 23prootie has been editing as Halalan para sa Senado ng Pilipinas, 2010, the Tagalog equivalent of Philippine Senate election, 2010. The subject field is the same, Philippine topics.

HoppingHare has also been blocked for edit warring which is a persistent problem 23prootie has. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 05:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
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Comments by other users
This is clearly 23prootie on the basis of their contributions (complete with edit warfare), and I've indef blocked them. The checkuser results will be interesting though. Nick-D (talk) 07:08, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Requested by <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 05:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

If this is a sock to also see if this suspected account is editing through a proxy (23prootie did this with User:Reincarnata) or to see if an IP range is blockable. If their proxying, there's a very good chance that it's him as he is familiar of how CU works. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 05:21, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

to see if we can get a range, however I would be extremely surprised if we do, most likely this account will be behind another proxy, so the best thing to do is to just keep blocking the accounts as they come. SpitfireTally-ho! 10:13, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ and blocked a proxy. Dominic·t 10:47, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Elockid
Editing the same article Loren Legarda, same as the socks, and. Like Buhay Tao, This user started out with the Baybayin script as the username. Please see the Report date February 1 2010, 21:57 (UTC).

I mean their third edit is on the DYK which from the previous investigations something that quacked as 23prootie because he/she was involved with it. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 23:00, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

For Habulan, it's a newly created account basically editing Loren Legarda again. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 21:12, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

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Comments by other users

 * Clearly 23prootie based on their contributions, and blocked. Nick-D (talk) 06:50, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Requested by <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 23:00, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

To also block whatever proxy(ies) they are editing from. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 23:00, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

looks to be shipshape, endorsing to find the proxy/range, and also to confirm the link, the account with the Baybayin username has already been blocked. Regards, SpitfireTally-ho! 21:15, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Tagged the socks. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 02:03, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ that the three suspected socks are related to each other. that they are related to 23prootie. I've blocked the two socks that weren't already blocked, and range blocked a /24 for 2 weeks. -- Versa  geek  01:15, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Elockid
Newly created account that reinstated the same edits as socks User:ᜂᜈ᜔ᜐᜒᜎᜒᜈ᜔ᜐ᜔ᜐ᜔ᜇ᜔ and User:Habulan on Loren Legarda after I reverted them. Me reverting 23prootie's socks. Them reverting. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 17:06, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Also, please see how Illuxion posted on a page about Wikidragons. 23prootie directed me and a couple of people on their RfA page on Tagalog wiki to the Wikidragons. See under Mungkahi and there will be a link to the Wikidragons page. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 21:31, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Requested by <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 17:06, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Also block whatever range or proxy they are editing from. From the last investigation, Versageek has done a rangeblock on the IPs 23prootie has been using. They seem to have moved to a new one. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 17:06, 20 February 2010 (UTC)


 * , Iluxion blocked anyway for proxy use. Brandon (talk) 21:51, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Elockid
Brand new account editing on the Loren Legarda article again which is one of the major articles the socks have been editing.

The second edit is still within the scope of 23prootie target articles. He's edited American Idol contestant articles like this, and this before. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 03:27, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Requested by <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 03:27, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

It's probably gonna come up as the account using an open proxy. He's been doing this several times now. Asking if the proxy, IPs, IP range they're editing can be blocked as they're still creating socks even with a rangeblock on their IP. Would self endorse, but would like to have another clerk review this. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 03:27, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

<b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 03:27, 25 February 2010 (UTC)


 * . + . Brandon (talk) 02:39, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged. ~ Amory ( u •  t  •  c ) 03:45, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * . + . Brandon (talk) 02:39, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged. ~ Amory ( u •  t  •  c ) 03:45, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * . + . Brandon (talk) 02:39, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged. ~ Amory ( u •  t  •  c ) 03:45, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Elockid
Same editing of the types of articles as the last 23prootie socks which are Philippine politics or politicians. 23prootie and the suspected are basically editing the same articles. In Tagalog Wikipedia Philippine presidential election, 2010, Template:Philippine presidential election, 2010, Insurgency in the Philippines. Articles the account has been editing the English equivalent: Philippine presidential election, 2010, Template:Philippine presidential election, 2010, Insurgency in the Philippines. It's common for the socks to edit the Tagalog and English articles. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 04:46, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by ChoraPete
User has similar edit history and similar name. Has been involved in a series of disruptive edits, including to a users page and talk page. ChoraPete (talk) 17:28, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Requested by <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 04:46, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

To block whatever proxies or IPs they're editing from and to check for sleepers as the last investigation resulted in sleepers being found. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 05:01, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
 * All suspected socks are now blocked. Checked could still be useful to block the proxies and underlying IPs. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 17:54, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

case from Sockpuppet investigations/23prootie's God merged, please see there for page history SpitfireTally-ho! 18:38, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * . Dominic·t 11:49, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Dominic. All socks already tagged and blocked. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 12:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Elockid
A lot of fascination with American Idol contestants. Seems consistent with 23prootie. See Report date February 25 2010, 03:27 (UTC). Here some others One, [Two, Three. Just see 23prootie's editing history.

DYK participation after 4 days of article creation. Not typical of a new user. See Report date February 3 2010, 23:55 (UTC)and Report date February 17 2010, 23:00 (UTC) for an example of a "new user" under 23prootie's article subject area DYK. By the edits, already looks very knowledgeable.

23prootie has edited Hispanidad before. 23prootie editing. Between March 15-16, Banananana88 was edit warring at that time. 23prootie is an edit warrior.

Editing times are similar. <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 20:56, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Requested by <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 20:56, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Self endorsing for CU attention. We need another IP or open proxy block. 23prootie has a liking of using open proxies to circumvent rangeblocks and IP blocks or to avoid detection from checkuser with socks like <b style="font-family:papyrus; color:darkred;">Elockid</b> ( Talk·Contribs ) 20:56, 21 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Obviously 23prootie based on behaviour. Also - 6 open proxies, no other accounts present -  A l is o n  ❤ 07:15, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Bagged and tagged. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  14:16, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Elockid
It's a duck. The 2nd edit was to DYK on an article 23prootie was editing on, Paige Miles and later on the fourth edit on Lacey Brown. See Template talk:Did you know under Lacey Brown and Paige Miles and with 23prootie's sock starting those articles.

Rest of the articles are also within the scope of 23prootie and their socks. See previous investigation. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 21:11, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

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Just wanted to let you all know I've been accused but am not guilty. Sign My Guestbook! User:Sumsum2010 18:54, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Tagged removed. User who put it on your talk page has been blocked for abusing multiple accounts. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 19:12, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Would've removed it myself but I didn't think I should. Sign My Guestbook! User:Sumsum2010 19:18, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Comments by other users
As this is clearly 23prootie I've just blocked the account. A checkuser to identify and block the underlying proxies would be helpful though. Nick-D (talk) 05:17, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Added RFCU template. See under comments made by other user section. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 15:51, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

for a block on what I assume will be an underlying proxy, please. Regards, SpitfireTally-ho! 19:30, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

. Not much of interest. --Deskana (talk) 02:34, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Elockid
See also User:Elockid/Long-term abuse/23prootie.

23prootie last time I saw him was interested in editing in religion. The last CU confirm sock, had interests in editing religion articles such as  and  which I believe was a bit of a precursor. See diff 1 and compare it to the first couple of edits.

A lot of the editing times between Iwanttoeditthissh is pretty consistent with 23prootie.

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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Requested by <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 23:54, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

to check if this account is editing using open proxies since that's pretty common behavior for 23prootie socks. The recent edits (religion) is in the scope of 23prootie and the behavior stated above makes me suspicious. If it is a sock using open proxies, a block on the open proxies would be appreciated. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 23:54, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Seems pretty unlikely to me, but it's hard to tell. --Deskana (talk) 17:15, 11 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay. Thanks Deskana. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 22:06, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Elockid
Same editing times. Reinstated the same kind edit on Butterfly (disambiguation): 23prootie socks and Smile emils.

It's also quite interesting how Smile emils creates this redirect, especially since the article that it redirects to, is an artilce I protected recently due to 23prootie targeting the page using open proxies.

Reinstates the same edits on Loren Legarda, another one of 23prootie's targets. 83.142.228.98 (open proxy) and Smile emils. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 12:37, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
Requested by <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 12:37, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that this is 23prootie. But two of the article subjects, namely Pretty Little Liars and As Told by Ginger, are topics that I haven't seen 23prootie edit yet. Requesting CU attention to confirm that this 23prootie and/or block whatever open proxy(s) they're editing from. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 12:37, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

✅ that are the same, and highly likely previously identified sock. Some proxies blocked. Since this user is de-facto banned, some of his edits may need to be reverted. Amalthea 16:22, 8 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Banananana88 is without a doubt 23prootie. Per banning policy, I have reverted their edits and deleted the pages they created. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 16:37, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by Elockid
Same liking of Filipino politicians/politics or the as previous 23prootie IP sockpuppets. For example at Leticia Ramos-Shahani and Loren Legarda use of IP sockpuppets (open proxies). For full list see User:Elockid/Long-term abuse/23prootie.

Similar to the last sockpuppet's username, User:Smile emils.

Requesting CU to confirm that this 23prootie and/or block whatever open proxy(s) they're editing from if they're editing from an open proxy. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 14:44, 20 July 2010 (UTC)


 * For a new user, this user has also been fairly active with DYKs which is a common for 23prootie to do.


 * There is an interest in summits also, see and . Both were/are blocked as open proxies. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>   ( Talk ) 04:09, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments
– In the meanwhile, Smile1234smile indefinitely blocked and tagged. –MuZemike 07:09, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Behavioral evidence will need to be the primary determinant. -- Avi (talk) 05:02, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Nothing more to see here. ( X! ·  talk )  · @275  · 05:36, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Evidence submitted by ElockidAlternate
The first edit was to have a move request on Commonwealth of the Philippines to Philippine Commonwealth. 23prootie was temporarily blocked for moving warring on the same page with the same title but later, the blocked got extended to indefinite for using sockpuppets to continue to move war on the same page. See also Talk:Commonwealth of the Philippines. See also these threads: Talk:Commonwealth of the Philippines and [[Talk:Commonwealth of the Philippines for more info. The account does seem to know some Wikpedia mark-up based on how their linking external links and to articles. The not signing their comment might be a way of trying to seem like he's a new user, but 23prootie in the past, has tried the exact same thing where he pretends to be a new user, but he shows that he's really not. For example at this ANI thread]

The only other article edited, Tydings–McDuffie Act was also a page 23prootie contributed to. See editing history.

Requesting CU for an open proxy block. He has used many proxies. See User:Elockid/Long-term abuse/23prootie. Note, he also sometimes edits through IPs around the San Francisco area using IPs such as and. The providers are fairly static from what I've experienced. An IP block would be appreciated. <b style="color:#4682B4; font-family:Calibri; font-size:16px;"> E lockid (Alternate)</b>  ( Talk )  13:42, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

 * with regards to linking the account to, not enough non-stale accounts to compare it to. Plus, given the nature of the IPs these users use it is nearly impossible to establish a connection based upon location.
 * ✅ the following are related:


 * (open proxy). Tiptoety  talk 17:38, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Everyone's blocked, marking for close. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  17:54, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I've tag Par0tT as sock of 23prootie. The pages gave it suspicion, but the use of an open proxy is an obvious giveaway. Also tagged Meetshoped2 per CU results. <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:medium; color:#4682B4;"> E lockid</b>  ( Talk ) 19:02, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

25 March 2014

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Already CU ✅ by me. Adding for reference <b style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:14px; color:#4682B4;">Elockid</b>  ( Talk ) 00:20, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

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20 October 2015

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I'm going to reopen this case as I'm suspecting Shhhhwwww!! was related with a long term problematic user from the Philippines which frequently made controversial page move and disruptive edits as I'm suspecting on their similar behaviour. Please also see User:Elockid/Long-term abuse/23prootie. Both user 23prootie and Shhhhwwww!! are known for their favourite on DYK submission as well a nationalist editor who support a defunct-Sultanate of Sulu with his frequent attack on Sabah and Malaysia related topic as can be seen here on 23prootie and Shhhhwwww!! contributions. I was suspecting since he was also involved in recent contribution on languages topics and Myanmar article which also ever done by 23prootie before. <span style="font-size:1.0em; font-family:Cyrillic,serif;">~ Muffin Wizard;) 21:48, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I think an experience editor like Elockid know more about this since he has handling 23prootie case before. :) <span style="font-size:1.0em; font-family:Cyrillic,serif;">~ Muffin Wizard;) 22:08, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Wait, do you ever check if there is some connection between them? <span style="font-size:1.0em; font-family:Cyrillic,serif;">~ Muffin Wizard;) 22:20, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

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 * The account is already blocked. There are no non-stale puppets to compare him against in the archives. He's already been labeled a sockmaster at Sockpuppet investigations/Shhhhwwww!! to no avail. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:09, 20 October 2015 (UTC)


 * I shared the same suspicions as Muffin Wizard. I believe duck test could probably pass here. Looking at the last CU data, it is technically and coupled with behavior, this could be even . Unlike previous 23prootie socks, I am not as confident with this one.  Elockid <sup style="font-family:Chiller;">( BOO! ) 21:59, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Are you confident enough to block him yourself?  Vanjagenije  (talk)  10:07, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not 100% confident in applying the block myself at this time. Dealing with this user for so long, there's two things (I will only share this privately for anyone that's interested) that's missing for me. It could be an MO change (23prootie tried something different in the past with proxies), but I'm not sure. Elockid <sup style="font-family:Chiller;">( BOO! ) 13:04, 24 October 2015 (UTC)


 * In that case, I'm closing this with no action.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  20:19, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

29 March 2016

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Their first edits are to tag Shhhhwwww!! and HistoriaFilipinas as 23prootie socks. There may be another master, but I have no idea who it would be. GABHello! 15:54, 29 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Then this is just weird. I am unfamiliar with the case history (never a good thing), but it seems that both of the tagged accounts had something to do with the case. GABHello! 18:07, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

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 * - Really interesting, should be checked.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  22:23, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Checkuser is no help here. Ramos Emanuelito is the only account on the associated IP and everything in the archive is stale.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 18:01, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Closing the case with no action. The behavioral evidence is not enough to block.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  13:44, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
I admit I am a Sockpuppet of 23prootie. Shwcz (talk) 13:42, 29 December 2022 (UTC) I am also a Sockpuppet of 23prootie. Imeldific (talk) 18:48, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

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This user just blanked Philippines. Nardog (talk) 14:12, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * – Requesting CheckUser for sleepers. This account has been around for a very long time, and 23prootie has several socks on their record. Favonian (talk) 14:30, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * . --Blablubbs (talk) 19:07, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Unsurprisingly, these two are ✅ to each other. . The CU log data I have for this case is really old, but places the master in the same geographic area. --Blablubbs (talk) 19:12, 29 December 2022 (UTC)