Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/3 Löwi/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets
An IP that geolocates to Spain and edits only Estonian topics makes an edit to Estonian Soviet Socialist Republic followed by another edit by 3 Löwi (who also only edits Estonian topics) three minutes later. When the IP's edit gets reverted, 3 Löwi restores the edit. When this gets reverted again, the same IP restores the edit using almost the same edit summary as 3 Löwi in the previous edit. Few weeks later when I revert the edit another IP that only edits Estonian topics and geolocates to Spain reverts this. When this gets reverted, 3 Löwi returns to restore the IP's edit moments later.

Other editors have raised their concerns about this on 3 Löwi's talk page including being asked if they are the same person, but they did not respond. Mellk (talk) 00:32, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

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 * I have for a while suspected that there is either one individual, or more likely, a small group of Estonian editors working together to achieve their goals, and that 3 Löwi is part of that group as was User:H2ppyme (who openly threatened to sock in their ANI thread that got them blocked). As pointed out here, IP's are used for reverting if 3 Löwi is reverted. A recent example I have myself is on Amandus Adamson where 3 Löwi added the unsourced claim that the individual was of Swedish ancestry here, then a bit later a Spain based IP (probably not a coincidence with the Spain based ones above) shows up claiming the same thing, but this time through the addition of a category here. There have been several other instances as well, which have included the IP's making insults in edit summaries, but it would take time to dig them up so I may add them later here when I have more time. But I agree with Mellk that 3 Löwi is engaging in either sockpuppetry or meatpuppetry. --TylerBurden (talk) 05:24, 2 March 2023 (UTC)


 * I reached out on their talk page earlier, unware of this SPI. I have experienced the same behaviour as described above. The Spanish IPs and the user uses the same rationale behind their edits. Diffs:,. I agree with probability of sockpuppetry and/or meatpuppetry taking place here and this seems to be a perennial problem. Shellwood (talk) 01:46, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * It should probably also be noted that they are completely ignoring the concerns raised, and is continuing to make edits after being asked to address the issues here. TylerBurden (talk) 15:01, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I've noticed, an IP that also geolocates to Spain, for example. This IP, in their most recent edit, added content on Estonian United Left Party that was inserted by 3 Löwi on 2023 Estonian parliamentary election. I've also warned this IP because of adding unsourced content and hijacking references to articles though they have not replied to any of their past warnings on their talk page. --Vacant0 (talk) 15:44, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * At this point they are destroying the 2023 Estonian parliamentary election article. Vacant0 (talk) 16:20, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Also something interesting is to note that this IP uses edit summaries very frequently and they are written, imo, from a perspective a general IP user would not write from. Vacant0 (talk) 16:25, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * IP user started this discussion, it might be interesting for this SPI. Vacant0 (talk) 22:44, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
 * 3 Lowi just reinstead 91.200.117.76's edit with a similar edit summary, I think it's more obvious now. Can someone request an admin/checkuser/clerk to check this SPI, it's been open for 9 days... Vacant0 (talk) 18:24, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
 * They've also made edits to Estonian Soviet Socialist Republic, an article 3 Löwi and IPs above edited regularly. I hope that this will be resolved asap. Vacant0 (talk) 16:27, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * The evidence presented is fairly compelling. It appears from previous revisions of their userpage that 3 Löwi had possibly moved to the Basque Country, which is where these IPs seem to geolocate to. I have therefore blocked all the IPs for six months and 3 Löwi for a month (they were also blocked for sockpuppetry in 2007 as a result of this case). Number   5  7  19:37, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Closing, thanks. Spicy (talk) 15:37, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
3 Löwi was recently blocked for a month for sockpuppetry on 10 March. The account D1Hondt was created the day after the block was made and made a few small edits. On the article Estonian Soviet Socialist Republic (where 3 Löwi previously used socks to restore their changes that were reverted), 3 Löwi made an edit which I reverted. Just several hours after the revert was made, the account D1Hondt appears after a month of inactivity to make a similar change (mainly just moving the text to a slightly different place and still referring to the "formal name" as in the edit by 3 Löwi). In the edit summary, it reads like a reply to the revert of 3 Löwi's edit. I asked 3 Löwi on their talk page if this was an account they had made, but they have not responded yet (same as previous times when they were asked if they were socking). Mellk (talk) 23:29, 21 April 2023 (UTC) Mellk (talk) 23:29, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - Because this will mean an indefinite block of the master if D1Hondt is a sock, I'm requesting a check to confirm. Because of the master's history, I'm also interested if there's been any logged out editing by the master. I'm obviously not asking for the IPs themselves, just a yes or no. Bbb23 (talk) 00:27, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Re logged out editing, it appears to have been something they did quite often prior to the 10 March block. In fairness to them, I don't see much evidence that they have done LOUTSOCKing since the block was put in place. Hard to be confident about that though, as they edit across a lot of different ranges - either they are very very mobile, or they are using proxies that dot about different locations, so logged out editing during the period they were blocked would not be obvious if they hadn't logged into their account recently. As for D1Hondt, I'd call them ✅ to 3 Löwi.  Girth Summit  (blether)  14:44, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Blocked, tagged, closing. Bbb23 (talk) 14:47, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Another Spain-based IP that edits only Estonia-related articles. Like before they write "small edits" etc in their edit summaries while making changes that are not actually small; compare for example the following edit summaries: In general their edit summaries are very similar to 3 Löwi e.g. "brushed up". See also for example this edit regarding location of Estonia in Europe, which they state has been discussed extensively on the talk page. Indeed, 3 Löwi (before he was indeffed) and other similar Spain-based IPs have been discussing on the talk page. Mellk (talk) 17:33, 2 December 2023 (UTC) Mellk (talk) 17:33, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * IP edits are old, closing. Bbb23 (talk) 14:18, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
3 Löwi was indeffed for sockpuppetry in April 2023. Following this they continued to make edits as an IP in the following months. Neljasl6vi was created in December 2023 with the same focus on Estonian topics and there is an overlap in niche topics such as Kaleva (airplane). Both accounts also use similar edit summaries, compare for example this edit and this edit where they say a photo or link "deserves" to be included. They also have a similar tendency to make large edits and introduce POV changes in an article using misleading edit summaries, compare for example this edit by 3 Löwi and this edit by Neljasl6vi where they say they improve the "flow" in the edit summary while introducing POV changes. Here on Estonia they make a similar edit as 3 Löwi changing the wording to "full independence" which is the narrative that 3 Löwi was consistently pushing for. Mellk (talk) 08:33, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * ✅, . --Blablubbs (talk) 17:23, 18 June 2024 (UTC)