Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/4.23.83.100/Archive

Evidence submitted by Rontombontom
User:Ssyublyn is currently engaged in an edit war on Korea Train Express, and I just began to draft an RfC/U. I was led to suspect that Ssyublyn is a sockpuppet for a banned user when I tried to check on two strange circumstances:


 * User:Ssyublyn made numerous (and misleading) references to Wikipedia Policies relating to edit conflicts, and used advanced formatting, as if he had great experience in edit warring -- however, he created his user page and made his first edit on 20 September 2010 only (WP:PREC).
 * In the Talk page disputes paralleling the edit war, User:Ssyublyn accused two other users of bad faith on the basis of their Japanese nationality/ethnicity, which he claimed knowledge of without evidence. Since for one of the accused, User:Jpatokal, that doesn't follow from the info on the user page, I thought Ssyublyn recalls a prior conflict on the Talk pages of another article. But, again, his only significant other contribution was another Japanese-Korean edit warring with a third user in the Kowtow article.

Reading Talk:Kowtow, I noticed that in multiple sections, User:Jpatokal was involved in an exchange over the very same subject, in particular with a User:Manacpowers. Beyond WP:IDART, this since banned sockpuppet for 4.23.83.100 displayed many of the same behaviors and stylistic marks as shown by User:Ssyublyn in the present disputes:
 * the treatment of issues as a matter of national prestige (WP:SIM);
 * categorical re-statement of earlier claims without reacting to counter-arguments (WP:SIM);
 * repetitive statement of the same points in the same long-winded Talk entry (WP:SIM);
 * excessive bolding (WP:SIM);
 * messed-up threading by inconsistent indenting of Talk entries (I tried to correct this in the current dispute) (WP:SIM);
 * frequent lack of/erroneous verb conjugation (example: hard to says, I did not says, is not says by Manacpowers; We says, we says, you wasny says by Ssyublyn) (WP:SOCKERR);
 * frequent confusion of singular and plural (WP:SOCKERR);
 * putting words in his detractors' mouths (examples by Manacpowers, by Ssyublyn) (WP:SIM).

Thus I strongly suspect that the new edit war is a spillover from the old edit war, initiated by the same banned user. Rontombontom (talk) 11:14, 27 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Upon close reading, I see I committed a mistake. What I am really requesting is a CheckUser between named users Manacpowers and Ssyublyn. I misinterpreted the "Please see Requests for checkuser/Case/4.23.83.100 for relevant evidence." message at User:Manacpowers to mean that he was confirmed as a sockpuppet of that IP, but now I see that confirmation was given only for three named accounts. I'm not sure what's the proper way forward (I looked but didn't find a relevant section in the manuals), but I'm guessing I'll have to re-submit my request, so that's what I'll do. --Rontombontom (talk) 22:12, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties
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Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

 * - I do see that this IP has been checked before to confirm weather or not accounts were on it, but the privacy policy applies, and most of the behavoir your describing could be enough to get a duck block. --  DQ  (t)  (e)  12:22, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

closing, this can be dealt with at Sockpuppet investigations/Manacpowers. SpitfireTally-ho! 12:18, 29 September 2010 (UTC)