Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/86.40.193.44/Archive

28 August 2012

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 * IP addresses are in the same range.
 * First IP address (sockmaster) made a few edits to an article, one of them you can see here, adding a clarification tag to a sentence. An editor removed that, since there really isn't anything that needs clarification.
 * Second IP address in same IP range pops up, makes his/her first edit - and it's just reinserting the clarification needed tag on the same article. How many editors even know what a clarification needed tag is when they make their fisrt edit?
 * When asked whether he/she has any other accounts, the reply was "No," so this isn't a case of the editor simply going to another computer nearby for some reason.  Activism  1234  07:45, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

@Amalthea - how about violationg 1RR though (twice)? Also, the edits weren't a few days apart - it was a few hours apart, whether that made it a new day I don't know, but either way that's a 1 day discrepancy due to only a few hours. -- Activism  1234  15:56, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

@Amalthea - I don't object, that's fine with me. Although generally, in such a case on I-P where 1RR applies, it's best to go on the talk page to clarify why X feels a clarification needed tag is there. But I'm fine with just leaving this alone. -- Activism  1234  17:06, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

@Amalthea - thanks, that sounds good. Something much much more serious to me than the edits made on the One Minute of Silence Article is this Sockpuppet investigation I opened up. -- Activism  1234  17:23, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

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 * Well, like you say, the IPs are in the same range, range is currently titled an 'ADSL Address Pools', the edits were on different days in their timezone, so the obvious assumption is that they restarted their router during the night and got a new IP to make the follow-up edit. As was requested with the undo, they tried to provide clarification in the edit summary of the redo. Your question about the prior account was most likely misunderstood: I assume they'd say they have no account at all, meaning no named account. As an anon, you typically don't even see your IP in the interface (at least no with the WMF setup). So, I see no abuse of multiple accounts here. They should be treated as one account, but like indicated above, I don't see they did anything wrong at that article. Amalthea  10:48, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * In local time, .44 stopped editing at 12:08am and .172 started at 8:35am. It's typical for dial-up users to change the IP during the night when the router or modem is shut down. I hadn't realized that the page is under a 1RR restriction. Looking at that aspect, there are two edits of the IP that could be counted, (which might have been an unintentional edit conflict), and  restoring the tag. The first revert is allowed under 1RR, and I don't count the second revert: although he did certainly undo AnkhMorpork's revert, he was invited to do so by AnkhMorpork when he asked for clarification, which .172 provided in the edit summary; I wouldn't consider it proportional to block him for that. Then again, I stay away from Israel-Palestine articles so maybe such harshness is required there?  Amalthea  16:58, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree it would have been better, I'm not sure he realized it though. We should have editnotices to point out such strong restrictions ... If he comes back you may want to point it out to him (even though no warning is technically required), or let me know and I talk to him. Cheers, Amalthea  17:15, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Per Amalthea, no action taken at this time. AGK  [•] 12:46, 29 August 2012 (UTC)