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The suspected sockpuppet, A455bcd9, has been been publishing erroneous information within certain pages - "Levantine Arabic" and "Mashriq". When edits were made to remove such wrong information, A455bcd9 deleted those edits and re-published the same erroneous information he put in. An edit war occurred and the matter was referred by him to the Admin Board. The Administrator had warned him not to revert the correction edits or he would be blocked without further warning. Since he did not get his way to have sanctions put on me as he requested of the Admin, and that the explanation I provided on the Admin Board to prove that he was publishing erroneous information intentionally- even many times again in the edit war - was enough to put an end to his claims. He now has opened a discussion in the TALK section of the "Levantine Arabic" article as another attempt. This of course because going to the Admin did not work for the user. He has listed 9 reasons/points why my edits "should be reverted". Now here is the reason for suspecting Sockpuppetry, and Meatpuppetry at the very least. When A455bcd9 finished his request on the Talk page, he asked "What do you think? Especially other contributors such as @SarahFatimaK and AdrianAbdulTaha". The account in question is AdrianAbdulTaha. This user has no prior history of edits, 0 to be exact. More specifically, he has never edited or contributed to the Levantine Arabic wiki page. The first question is: How does A455bcd9 know AdrianAbdulTaha? The latter never edited, even more specifically on the page in question. So where did he find his user as there is no trace of him or her on the page to look through and pick out from. An add on question is, why ask this user? Has he showed any interest in this page? Has he demonstrated a general and experienced knowledge of the said topics on Wikipedia? The answers per obvious records show the answer is "NO". What makes it even more suspicious is he has showed up the same day to only agree with all the points that A455bcd9 made. Also, AdrianAbdulTaha did not once address my response in the Talk page. Because this user showed up to agree with A455bcd9, he now has 1 single edit to his history. With the matter being this way, more specifically that the suspected sock account AdrianAbdulTaha has 0 edits in history, it isnt possible to provide "diffs". Although, the case can be made for WP:ALWAYS and WP:NEEDED being in use here: A455bcd9 says something, and requests feedback/decision. AdrianAbdulTaha is there immediately to support A455bcd9's position. I am also applying WP:SIM where the similarity between how the two users write, and how their tone seems to be, is obvious, at least to me. An investigation into the Talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Levantine_Arabic could determine if indeed the writing style and tone belong to the same person. And finally, WP:BRIEFLY in that the suspected sock account has 0 edits in history and has only briefly come to fully agree with the main user. To conclude, this is suspicious behavior. If not a sockpuppet account, then it could very well be a meatpuppet account. It is extremely suspicious how A455bcd9 calls specifically upon AdrianAbdulTaha who has no edit history on Wikipedia to help him reach his pre meditated decision. Where did he find him? How does he know him? Why did he only address his concerns and not the other? Hope that this matter is resolved soon. WatanWatan2020 (talk) 05:03, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * I'm closing this without action. AdrianAbdulBaha is not active on EnWiki, but they are an active contributor to Wiktionary (user page over there), where they describe themselves as an anthropologist and linguist with an interest in Arabic languages. I can't speculate as to how these two users know each other (A455bcd9 is more active here, on FrWiki and on Commons). No comment on whether the ping was improper canvassing, but I don't believe that they are the same person. As an aside,, this report is a wall of text that is exceedingly difficult to read, please try to be concise in your reports.  Girth Summit  (blether)  14:40, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi,
 * Yes, I confirm I'm not AdrianAbdulBaha...
 * AdrianAbdulBaha is this person: https://www.youtube.com/c/AdrianAbdulBah%C3%A1/videos
 * He's mostly active on Wiktionary, and that's where I discovered him, seeing all the entries and templates he created for Palestinian Arabic. We chatted a bit there and I mentioned the Levantine Arabic article, asking him whether he could contribute. Even though he doesn't edit on Wikipedia, I thought his opinion may still be interesting and that's why I pinged him in the ongoing debate in the talk page of this particle.
 * By the way, I'm tired of WatanWatan2020's disruptive behavior and baseless accusations. Two complaints (Jan 2021 and Aug 2021) were previously opened, but they were closed without any action being taken. Discussion with this user is difficult, to say the least, and we're not making any progress as they do not provide arguments and/or sources to back their claims. What should I do next to solve this issue? A455bcd9 (talk) 07:32, 31 August 2021 (UTC)