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As per off-wiki evidence, a freelancer was hired to edit The Urban Legend (comics) and draft:Josef Yohannes. The master account was registered yesterday and uploaded a few images at commons and used them on "The Urban Legend (comics)" and Lonely Mars Man was registered today to submit "draft:Josef Yohannes" for a review. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 09:46, 19 September 2020 (UTC)


 * +Vinaypandagre and TheGreatDerp as per another advert I found in their work history. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 09:58, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * As per their off-wiki profile they are involved in paid editing since April 2020 and have completed around 10 projects related to Wikipedia so I'm expecting to see some good number of accounts in their sock drawer. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 11:36, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

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 * - bunch of brand-new accounts making edits matching an upwork post? Seems like enough justification to look into the drawer. GeneralNotability (talk) 14:17, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * They're all on the same ISP, one which is difficult to check and difficult to run sleeper checks on. The best I can say is Inoknowone, Lonely Mars Man, and TheGreatDerp are to each other and  to Vinaypandagre. I tried a sleeper check but it was essentially inconclusive. Kevin ( aka L235 · t · c) 16:59, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Per CU findings, blocked the likelies, leaving Vinaypandagre alone. Closing. GeneralNotability (talk) 18:40, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

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Duck, both suspected socks were registered after the master was blocked to edit Draft:Josef Yohannes and no:Josef Yohannes. Seetmoon's first edit was to add an image (Fil:Josef Yohannes The Urban Legend.jpg uploaded by Ablasaur) to the draft without uploading it on commons and then submitted the draft for a review. The same file name was used by Whowantssomefood on the Norwegian version of the article. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 04:42, 20 November 2020 (UTC)


 * User Helpthemisguided created Marilyn Parver (now in draft) and user Thewilderness123 uploaded file:Marilyn Parver Mrs. GA.jpg, file:Marilyn With P. Carter And Senate Kennedy.jpg and file:Marilyn Parver.jpg. Helpthemisguided used all these images on their article and after they were deleted on November 1, due to copyright issue, user Whowantssomefood was registered and uploaded all the images under different titles. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 06:24, 20 November 2020 (UTC)


 * +MayansfromMars created Draft:Fitch Means and as per off-wiki evidence the master was hired for this article. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 06:43, 20 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I don't want to spill the beans but there is some more behaviour evidence to confirm Seetmoon's relation with now blocked user Ablasaur. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 14:39, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , Could you please mail me what you've got? -- RoySmith (talk) 23:12, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Please check your inbox. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 12:43, 25 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for taking care of this farm. Since they are all confirmed and user Inoknowone was originally blocked on September 21, can we delete edits by those registered post their block? GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 03:40, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , Oddly enough, my tool which checks for WP:G5 eligibility (https://spi-tools.toolforge.org/spi/g5/Ablasaur?archive=1) shows there aren't any eligible pages, which I actually suspect is a bug in my script. Certainly, if you know of pages that qualify for G5, please tag them as such. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:21, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, wait, you're talking about specific edits, not page creations. That's a little more complicated.  Have any specific edits in mind? -- RoySmith (talk) 15:23, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

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 * - There's enough little bits and pieces here to justify CU, at least for Seetmoon.  sent me a behavioral observation of his which I agree links Seetmoon and Ablasaur, plus the upwork listing noted in the archives which ties Seetmoon to Lonely Mars Man in the archives . And of course the newness of all the accounts.  Plus username similarity (MayansfromMars, Lonely Mars Man).  Of course, as with all these upwork things, multiple UPEs competing for the same commision is as likely as actual socking.


 * Note to future clerk: if confirmed, this should be renamed to Ablasaur as the oldest account. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:15, 25 November 2020 (UTC)


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 * Looks like everything SPI has to do has been done, so closing. If there's more G5-ish article cleanup that remains to be done, that can be done outside of SPI. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:35, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

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So they returned anonymously to repost Draft:Fitch Means. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 17:08, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

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 * Blocked the IP for a month, G5 and semi-salted the draft.  Closing. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:34, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

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Flenleaf1 (formerly ) was registered just four days after was blocked and  was to restore paid  at RightScale. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 06:23, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * - They have a declared COI, but given the timing of the account creation and the extensive history in the archives, it's likely there's also socking going on. The comments in the archive also suggest that the previous CU check may not have found everything, so another sleeper run seems like a good idea.  I'll also ECP RightScale, which will probably be more useful than playing sock-a-mole. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:12, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * . Same country and geolocation, different ISPs and different user agents.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   16:01, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Interesting, and thanks for breaking down the details of what you found. If I assume this is some city where lots of paid editing companies exist, the "same geolocation" doesn't sway me.  Given the different ISP/agent, and the fact that this user declared their COI up front in accordance with our policies, I'm going to AGF that they're not the same person as Ablasaur.  They can continue to suggest changes on Talk:RightScale, per WP:COI.  Closing with no action taken beyond the ECP I already put in place. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:20, 15 December 2020 (UTC)