Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/AdArmand/Archive

Suspected sockpuppets



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AdArmand made the following posts on the Sheila Carter talk page on Aug. 12:, , ,. IP 213.225.2.82, a brand-new user that had never posted anything before on Wikipedia, made the following post on the aforementioned talk page yesterday, Aug. 14:. IP 213.225.2.82 wrote: "Israell we got it you are a Michelle S. fanatic and you don’t want to admit it and cry and cry over to reverse any changes made to this page about your dear actresss but I confirm what the previous person said. [...] You cannot accept that but at the same time, you’re able to accept than a character who died on screen like Pheila come back from the death and have a reverse back chirurgie to look like before (which once again never been explained). Stop being un neutral it’s ridiculously stupid." 1. They did not assume good faith and insist the article be edited to fit their fancruft theories. 2. They wrote: "but I confirm what the previous person said" I've noticed that they did not sign their post just like that "previous person" (AdArmand) that never signed their posts. Both users sometimes wrote one or more words in capitals and appear to have a similar writing style. 3. IP 213.225.2.82 used the French word "chirurgie" instead the English term "surgery." IP 213.147.166.219, another brand-new user who only starting posting yesterday, used the French phrase "Coquilles corrigées" instead of the English phrase "Corrected errors" when editing the article:. 4. All three users (AdArmand, IP 213.225.2.82 and IP 213.147.166.219) are involved in the very same debate with the same fancruft theories. 5. AdArmand made the following edits to the article on Aug. 12 without any prior discussion (these edits go against consensus reached):, , , , , ,. AdArmand also removed a casting photo three times (, and . ) when consensus (to keep it on the article) was reached and explained to them on the article's talk page. 6. IP 213.147.166.219 also made the following edit to the article yesterday, an edit that reflects the same changes that go against consensus AdArmand sought to achieve. 7. AdArmand's only posts on Wikipedia were made in 2008 on the Brenda Dickson article, and then this month, in 2021, on the Sheila Carter article. Conclusion: It appears at least two of these editors may be the same person, may live in the same location, and that the IPs only purpose on Wikipedia is to support AdArmand's disruption. Israell (talk) 03:12, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

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 * At this time, I am not willing to take any action. I agree that the two IPs appear to be the same person, and their geolocation agrees with that - but since they're both on the same ISP, that's just somebody's IP changing. I also agree that the IP editor seems to be supporting AdArmand's point, which would be sockpuppetry since it is creating a false consensus. The question, then, is whether the IPs are AdArmand. At this time, I do not see strong evidence of that other than shared point of view. The IP editors' English seems worse than that of AdArmand, they edit from the mobile UI (which AdArmand has not been seen doing), and they use edit summaries, which AdArmand also hasn't done. Given all of that, I do not believe there is sufficient evidence to see this as sockpuppetry. I cannot, however, explain the IP editor's comments toward the filer, nor why they showed up at this page in the first place. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:39, 17 August 2021 (UTC)