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19 December 2013

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This user has a history of restoring R. Kelly articles after deletion discussions. He was recently blocked indefinitely, along with his sockpuppet account. Now just a day or two after the sockpuppeter restored Loveland (2002) and 12 Play: 4th Quarter the IP address does it. Also the IP restored Pimp Lucius, Sylvester (Trapped In The Closet), among others. Articles also restored disruptivly in wake of an AfD by the sockmaster and their other sockpuppet Affe97!. Pretty clear WP:DUCK to me.  STATic  message me!  16:39, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

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 * IP blocked one week for block evasion per the duck test. Closing now. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:47, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

10 January 2014

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Looks like a definite case of WP:DUCK. The account has only been active when the main account was blocked. The account also only edits R. Kelly related articles and has disruptively restored the same articles such as The World's Greatest (album) and Sylvester (Trapped In The Closet), that the sockpuppeteer and the other sockpuppet User: Affe97! have restored/created in the past.  STATic  message me!  18:31, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

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 * This recent page history, notice HD Webcam restores the same article that Affe97! (the first sockpuppet), did against the consensus of the AfD. This is a reoccurring thing, that this person has done with all three accounts. Also before being blocked Affe97! created The 12 Nights Of Christmas page history a R. Kelly christmas album not even in production, just an idea mentioned in one interview. After it was redirected by myself, it was restored by the sockmaster, redirected by another user and now recreated by User: HD Webcam after AffeL and Affe97! were blocked. Sorry for not going into full detail from the start. I now realize this account was not as obvious of a sockpuppet as Affe97! was.  STATic  message me!  21:34, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

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 * In order to facilitate and expedite your request, please provide diffs to support your case. Please give two or more diffs meeting the following format:
 * 1) At least one diff is from the sockmaster (or an account already blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the sockmaster), showing the behaviour characteristic of the sockmaster.
 * 2) At least one diff per suspected sockpuppet, showing the suspected sockpuppet emulating the behaviour of the sockmaster given in the first diff.
 * 3) In situations where it is not immediately obvious from the diffs what the characteristic behaviour is, a short explanation must be provided. Around one sentence is enough for this. Mark Arsten (talk) 21:13, 14 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Alright, they've both been blocked indef, and actually were before I made the request for diffs, my mistake. Closing now. Mark Arsten (talk) 22:00, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

24 January 2014

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Per WP:DUCK. Same MO, entire focus is on R. Kelly related pages. Upon account creation after the last sockpuppet was blocked, he restored R. Kelly & Jay-Z and The World's Greatest (album), two articles created by the sockmaster and that have been restored by his sockpuppets in the past.  STATic  message me!  18:34, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

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 * Suspected sock blocked indef per the duck test, closing now. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:32, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

26 January 2014

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Restoring the same articles that the sockmaster and sockpuppets have been restoring over and over again, including The World's Greatest (album), Pimp Lucius, Sylvester (Trapped In The Closet). Same MO and same articles as the socks. WP:DUCK applies  STATic  message me!  18:18, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

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 * Blocked for 1 week. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:43, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

31 January 2014

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WP:DUCK, same MO of all the other sockpuppets. Focus entirely on R. Kelly articles, restored Trapped in the Closet: The Book, which has been restored by one of the sockpuppets and an IP the sockmaster used. Also restored The World's Greatest (album), an article created by the sockmaster, that has been restored by two of their sockpuppets and two IPs that the sockmaster used.  STATic  message me!  17:47, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

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 * Suspected sock blocked indef per the duck test, closing now. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:58, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

02 February 2014

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WP:DUCK. IP made exact same edits as the last sockpuppet, and, along with  and. Then as soon as the IP stopped editing, Wikiking6719 was created and begun only editing R. Kelly articles, just like all the sockmaster and all sockpuppets. It seems they used the IP to edit articles they know they usually get caught editing, then moved onto other once they created the account. Also a IP that was previously blocked 83.177.25.12 returned to editing R. Kelly articles, seemingly it is AffeL again. WP:DUCK applies to all of them, this user always pops up every few days so there is really no doubt in my mind. However, if needed perform check user on the account.  STATic  message me!  18:28, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

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Named account indeffed and tagged based on duck. Two IPs blocked for two weeks.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:33, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

02 February 2014

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WP:DUCK, same continued focus on R. Kelly related pages. Same exact edit as previous sockpuppet and.  STATic  message me!  21:00, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

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Busy, aren't they? Indeffed and tagged based on obvious duck.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:52, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

07 February 2014

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Same exact edit as the last sockpuppet and. The IP has been used by the sockmaster before and he has returned to it after its block had ended, so there needs to be a longer block this time.  STATic  message me!  17:31, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

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 * IP blocked one month for block evasion, closing case now. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:56, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

16 February 2014

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WP:DUCK again. Same MO, all edits directed towards R. Kelly related pages. Also exact same edit to R. (album) as the last sockpuppet, which is what gave it away to me.  STATic  message me!  22:41, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

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 * - Endorsing a check per behavioral evidence above. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:29, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ and blocked. Tiptoety  talk 23:30, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Confirmed sock tagged and blocked indef, closing now. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:27, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

02 March 2014

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Same MO and consistent focus on R. Kelly just like every single sock before. Not to mention their second edit was to recreate "We Been On" an article that a previous sock had created. Perform CU if deemed needed. STATic message me!   05:44, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

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I've blocked the account based on duck, so I'm declining the CU. The latest puppet has the same MO of creating pages redirecting song titles to albums. At least in two I looked at, Be Careful (song) and We Been On, other AffeL puppets have done the same thing before.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:25, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

02 March 2014

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Same MO and consistent focus on R. Kelly related subjects. Same citation use style (adds a bunch of unformated random ones to the end of the lead paragraph). Really no doubt that this is the same but do CU if deemed necessary STATic message me!   17:43, 2 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Created We Been On, which has been created by two other sockpuppets. Added articles (now redirects) that have been created by the sockmaster/puppets to Kelly's navbox. This is not nearly as obvious as most of the others, but after reporting over (and having blocked) over 10 of this guys socks, I can spot them immediately. The entire focus on R. Kelly pages just like the other accounts, gives it away. STATic message me!   07:35, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

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 * - Please provide diffs as evidence. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 06:49, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Blocked, closing. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 04:48, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

10 April 2014

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The same user has returned to using this IP address to avoid their block. Notice the persistent focus on R. Kelly related pages STATic message me!   18:40, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

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IP reblocked for 3 months. Elockid  ( Talk ) 19:37, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

13 May 2014

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Quacking again. Same persistent focus on only R. Kelly pages. What made them obvious was restoring The 12 Nights Of Christmas, an article that was created by the first sockpuppet and restored by the sockmaster and another sockpuppet in the past. STATic message me!   14:04, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

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 * already handled at Sockpuppet investigations/Funnycelebritymoments. If this is the true master account, the tags on WikiFact123 should be updated. I'll leave that to a clerk to decide. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 10:29, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

13 May 2014

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The user WikiFact123 made almost exactly the same edit on May 12, 2014 as Funnycelebritymoments did on May 10, 2014, see edit. The List of best-selling music artists has certain rules that each artist needs to qualify for in order to get on the list. This I informed Funnycelebritymoments at his/her talk page. Harout72 (talk) 05:20, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

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 * indef, 3 days for socking. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 10:22, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

✅ as AffeL:

Blocked and tagged accordingly. AGK [•] 18:07, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

18 June 2014

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The same complete focus to R. Kelly pages. There have been so many socks this immediately jumps out as one. Second edit was to removing a speedy deletion tag from an article that he created in the past. The tagged article was origionally created by him and then deleted at AfD (Articles for deletion/Cookie (song)). He repeatedly recreated it at Cookie (song), which resulted in it being salted. STATic message me!   21:36, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

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 * ✅, tagged and blocked.--Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 16:40, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

02 August 2014

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Someone has returned to using the IP address following its last block and they have only edited the same basic R. Kelly related pages since then. Clearly it is AffeL returning to this IP again. STATic message me!   17:56, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

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 * Obvious socking - I've reblocked the IP.--Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:30, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

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The S.tollyfield account was created in September 2014, during a year-long block that AffeL evaded multiple times, but noticeably after the last CU was performed. S.tollyfield was quite active between September and November of 2014, but then went near-silent around the time AffeL's block was repealed. AffeL was unblocked on November 23, and S.tollyfield "went dark" on November 25 after trying on November 24 to delete his account, presumably to cover his tracks.) S.tollyfield edited very infrequently between November 2014 and June 2017, then came back in force in the last few weeks, having returned on June 24 after more than six months without a single edit. This was shortly after AffeL was blocked for two days, and during his subsequent ten-day disappearance (apparently the longest AffeL has gone without editing since his indef block was repealed).

S.tollyfield's recent activity has been devoted mostly to creating and defending an article on a non-notable actor from Game of Thrones, while AffeL's activity immediately before his block was devoted mostly to defending the notability of various Game of Thrones characters on whom he had created articles, and promoting a couple of articles on (notable) Game of Thrones actors (not sure how to demonstrate with diffs, but probably about 90% of his edits in the previous three weeks fell into one of these two categories).

S.tollyfield, a user with whom I have had minimal interaction, randomly brought up my "history", something he would have no reason to know or care about unless he were a sock of someone with whom I had already interacted. AffeL's recent block was the result of a personal attack he made against me, which he would no doubt say was provoked. It might be worth noting that the attack was a random and out-of-the-blue sockpuppet accusation against me and someone whose editing patterns look nothing like mine -- AffeL may have just had sockpuppetry on the mind when he wrote this and this.

AffeL's first edit summary after returning reads somewhat like a slightly coyer "I totally didn't know I had been blocked and wasn't actively editing under a different username during the past two weeks!" It also looks a little like AffeL timed his return to fall during the Josephine Gillan AFD, but deliberately waited a few days before !voting (And how did AffeL even know that a new article had been created and AFDed during his absence?)

Both seem to be interested in the Doctor Who mythos.

Also compare:
 * S.tollyfield
 * Game of Thrones is not just any TV series. Love it or loath it it is culturally significant and game changing.
 * vs. AffeL
 * A character in a random movie is not the same as one in such a popular show/book. (note that both of these quotes are specifically making the claim that a topic has "inherited notability" from the game-changing show GOT
 * the fact is that the show is way better than the books. That's why the last two seasons are the most succesfull ones yet, having one Emmys in all catergories, larger fanbase, high ratings from critics and a massive viewership. Don't be mad that the show has turned to be far superior than the books.


 * S.tollyfield
 * One feature is how disposable characters are.
 * vs. AffeL
 * Season 1: Killed Ned, Robert and Viserys. Season 2 killed Renly, Season 3: Red Wedding. Season 4 Joffrey, Tywin. Season 5 Stannis, Season 6: Almost everyone in Kings Landing and Ramsay Bolton. All of these characters are listed as starring, so yes they are main characters.
 * And to be fair way more peolpe have been killed of in the show. Plus it does not matter what the behind the scene reason is for the death of all the characters, the fact is that at the end of the day main characters are regularly killed off.
 * The last source I added clearly states that the show is famous for killing of major characters, and it says that the season six finale featured numerous main characters deaths.


 * AffeL
 * stop with the distruptive editing now or you will once again be blocked.
 * vs. S.tollyfield
 * I hope you will leave it at that - but looking at your history I am not optimistic

Lastly, there is this from S.tollyfield: When I changed my signature I did so because I wanted more anonimity Why would he want more anonymity? Either S.tollyfield is a pseudonym, in which case there is no need for further anonymity, or it is his real name and he should either request a username change or drop the account and start a new one. It seems more likely that he is trying to cover his tracks by preventing his sig from linking to or mentioning his username.

Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 09:28, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

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❌. Closing with no action.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:52, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

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AffeL has a history of socking, editwarring, and refusing to take part in talk page discussions, despite several warnings. He was sitebanned for a year for socking. This has continued at the Dragonstone (Game of Thrones) article. I brought up the issue of an entire 3-paragraph section being sourced exclusively to promotional material released by the HBO. The issue was ignored, so I removed the section with a note to AffeL not to simply restore it, as this has been his habit elsewhere on several articles.

A mere half hour later, IP 79.76.69.140, with no edit history, restored the material without comment. As the restore was done without comment, I reverted, and left a comment on the user's talkpage to take the dispute to the article's talk page. Then, IP 5.140.135.246 also restored it, again without comment and with an edit history of only one edit the day before. IP 79.76.69.140 returned and again restored the content without comment, despite my comment on the user's talk page to take the dispute to the article's talk page.

Two minutes after this edit, Panyd added requested page protection, and less than two minutes after that, AffeL returned to revert the edit, despite my note to him and several previous warnings about this behaviour. AffeL made no edits to the page from after my warning to him until two minutes after the page was protected.

79.76.69.140 (geolocated in the UK) has made only two edits, both of which were reverting me at the Dragonstone article—the first a mere half hour after I had removed the material with the disputed sourcing, the other a mere four minutes before AffeL's return.

5.140.135.246 (geolocated in Russia) has made only three, to the Dragonstone article and another to its talk page. The talk page comment is head-scratching ...

AffeL's previous socks have been with accounts geolocated to Croatia (83.177.25.12, 83.251.134.21) and Sweden (212.247.21.222). He obviously knows how to hide his location, so addresses in the UK and Russia shouldn't be surprising. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 03:30, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

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''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' For personal reasons I'm not going to go into, I'm extremely reluctant to speak ill of currently-blocked users, but given the wording of Yunshui's comment below and the fact that I know absolutely nothing about CU except that I've seen CU-enabled users overrule each other for reasons beyond the understanding of normal editors with questionable results (actually I saw ArbCom unblock a "CU-confirmed" sock who later caused a lot of trouble trying to essentially ban sockpuppetry investigations), I feel obligated to point this out. If AffeL and PeterD12 are the same person, then AffeL double-voted an AFD, an RM and a merge discussion. The writing styles are also not dissimilar, although the Peter evidence is meager. These edits could be explained as a deliberate red herring, but more likely AffeL used his "good hand" to sneak the article past GAN, the as soon as the article passed he logged into a different account and re-added the image. I hope this is enough to keep someone else from unblocking based on "likely" CU evidence and the two accounts sharing an interest in a very popular TV show. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 13:48, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

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AffeL is a match to  and. . I've blocked the named accounts (very similar editing interests from PeterD12 and then the username similarity with JasonC74 are enough to convince me that the technical similarities aren't a coincidence) and will leave it to another reviewing admin to assess whether or not to tackle the IPs. Yunshui 雲 水 12:55, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
 * IPs are stale. Case closed.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  15:09, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

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Sleeper account that was created in May but that made no edits on any Wikimedia project until a few days after AffeL's block, which just happened to be to a low-vis article that was essentially AffeL's monograph. Requesting CU to confirm, and perhaps find other sleepers that may have been activated when AffeL went silent. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 12:51, 4 September 2017 (UTC) Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 12:51, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

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 * - this evidence is weak, but the master has a history of abusing multiple accounts and employing sleepers. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:18, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * - Katietalk 18:43, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I won't rule it out completely, but it's . Katietalk 18:50, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Closing with no action. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:07, 11 September 2017 (UTC)