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Edited Balloon World Cup right after blocked Kanaessu. Also CheckUser blocked on Spanish Wikipedia. Mvqr (talk) 12:58, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

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(To future clerks: This bunch of accounts were originally filed under the Remitbuber case. It took me a while to make sense of this, so I'm leaving you this note so you don't have to be as confused as I was -- RoySmith (talk) 21:24, 28 October 2021 (UTC))

I would like to point out a few things. First, didn't uncover this user in their check. Second, there were multiple CU blocks at es.wiki by, but the accounts were blocked as socks of each other, not as socks of Remitbuber or one of their socks. Finally, Kanaessu, who has edited at es.wiki, although not the Balloon World Cup article, was not uncovered by BlackBeast in their check. None of this necessarily means that Julio is not a sock, but perhaps another CU is needed given these anomalies.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:08, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, thanks for the ping. Thanks to that I found something really amazing.
 * Kaneassu is a sock from:.
 * Also, use the same IP than:.
 * Same IP for.
 * I already blocked all in eswiki. Hope it helps 天使 BlackBeast  Do you need someting?  16:16, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm glad we could help, but what about Julio1906? Are they related to Remitbuber based on what you can see at es.wiki?--Bbb23 (talk) 16:27, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * , can´t find any relations. Altough Julio created a lot of socks in eswiki 天使 BlackBeast  Do you need someting?  16:42, 17 October 2021 (UTC)


 * I'll let a clerk or local checkuser make a final determination on this, but, as I see it, the only basis for blocking Julio1906 as a sock is if one of the accounts confirmed at es.wiki has edited on en.wiki. When I glanced at the list at es.wiki, I don't believe any has, but it might be a good idea to double-check.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:04, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * On October 17, I deleted Balloon World Cup per WP:G5. As I read the history, earlier on October 7, a brand new account Belgarion4321 created a draft of the article later edited by Julio1906 and then by another new account Carlos32005, both of which I've added to the suspect list. On October 21, the draft was moved to article space at WP:AFC. Just as with Julio, I do not think these new editors are socks of Remitbuber, but I do think that they are socks of Julio. Therefore, I am requesting a CU to compare the three accounts against each other. One of the two new accounts (Carlos) has edited at es.wiki, and the other has only registered there, but I am courtesy-pinging in case they want to look at it on es.wiki.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:07, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * , confirmed. Also, and  are socks of Julio 1906, and the first is also blocked on Commons. Thanks for the ping.- 天使  BlackBeast  Do you need someting?  14:37, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've added Rodolfo Gonzales Cruz to the list above. Are you able to confirm Belgarion4321 technically based on the creation of his account at es.wiki? Also, I don't know if you fuss about such things, but Rodolfo Gonzalez Cruz is the earliest account, both on en.wiki and es.wiki. Here at least, we will probably create a case with Rodolfo as the master.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:52, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * can't find any coincidence, two differents IP's and no editions.- 天使 BlackBeast  Do you need someting?  15:43, 21 October 2021 (UTC)


 * I think what we need is more detailed technical findings on Belgarion4321, although the account has made only one edit at en.wiki. After that, unless it's declined, we can create a new case with Rodolfo as the master.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:40, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * While waiting for some sort of action, I've blocked Julio, Carlos, and Rodolfo without tags. Bbb23 (talk) 21:48, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * - I think a enwiki check of these accounts may be useful for our record keeping. The edits to Balloon World Cup are definitely suspicious. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 22:30, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The results are as follows (which I've tried to lay out in a easy to read way):
 * and are ✅ to each other.
 * is ✅ to.
 * was CU blocked on commons and is tagged as a sock of User:Agustin03072005 on commons which means that through commons evidence is related to . Through my checks  is on the same but not busy range as these other accounts and so I would say  to accounts in #1, #2 and #4.
 * is to accounts in #1, #2 and #3 due to similar a similar range, and most technically close to  who I would say is  to this account.
 * All the above accounts are ❌ to any socks in the archive (different continent).
 * is ❌ to any other socks in this report (for the same reasons). This account geolocates much closer to socks in the archive and I'd say this to socks in the archive.
 * Blocking Orlando353 and EntropicBlackhole as CU block. Leaving for admins/clerks to proceed with the rest of the case. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 23:37, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
 * - A new case should be created with everyone tagged. The master should be Agustin03072005 or Rodolfo Gonzales Cruz. Agustin is the oldest account but despite the clarity of 's findings, the decision is not straightforward. If it were my call, I would go with Agustin. Bbb23 (talk) 00:01, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅, tagged and closing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  08:41, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

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2 accounts made similar edits in same articles before re-directed. I am doing this because I can tell you these 2 accounts also made some similar edits in other Wikimedia projects too. Commons Wikimedia tell me Freddyfox19 is a suspect sock of this user. Another user JhilmarLora does follow the same user as well and made similar edits in similar sites too. JTommyZ (talk) 03:04, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

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 * Regarding the Commons tag referenced below, was confirmed to  (Commons data here).  I suspect I relied on the latter's en.wiki block rationale of "Abusing multiple accounts: Please see: w:en:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Remitbuber" when selecting the master for the tag.  I will update to Agustin03072005.  Эlcobbola  talk 09:00, 21 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Ahh yes, that is quite confusing. I will try to update those block rationales to mitigate the confusion. Mz7 (talk) 17:15, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Freddyfox19 and JhilmarLora are ✅ to each other, and they appear to, , , and , all of which were previously blocked as part of Sockpuppet investigations/Agustin03072005. Notwithstanding the Commons sock tag, Freddyfox19 and JhilmarLora appear to be ❌ to previous socks of Remitbuber based on enwiki technical data (different continents). : I have blocked Freddyfox19 and JhilmarLora as sockpuppets of Agustin03072005.  Please merge this particular case section under Sockpuppet investigations/Agustin03072005. Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 01:59, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ – closing. --Blablubbs (talk) 17:53, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
This came to my attention after deleting DjMaRiiO as G11, and noting that it had previously been deleted under G5. The version which I deleted was nearly word-for-word identical to the sockpuppet created version deleted over a year ago, even down to the same idiosyncratic and highly unique phrasing and several of the same grammar, syntax, punctuation, and capitalization errors. Having looked farther, I have also found that the newer account (Augusto Martínez Rimarachín) shares several of the same interests of the sockpuppeteer, including Percy Liza (also edited by sock ), as well as the Jhilmar Lora article itself which was the account name of said sock, and show very similar interests such as, especially, YouTubers and soccer players. Given the clear behavioral evidence, I have already blocked this account as a sockpuppet, but am placing this here both for record keeping purposes, and to request a check. This individual is clearly a prolific user of long-term sleeper accounts, and if they are currently operating any others, a check may help to root those out. Seraphimblade Talk to me 17:44, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

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 * - Per above rationale. Noting that the accounts in the archive are stale, so any comparison is reliant on log data. --Jack Frost (talk) 01:33, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Well:
 * was blocked on es.wiki after a Spanish-language confession of sorts ("I'm his father, and I think you should unblock him"). I'll block that account and request a lock.
 * is already globally locked.
 * And there are a couple random people who haven't made any edits. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:24, 19 April 2022 (UTC)