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I am presenting evidence here for two editors, Ajdebre and Zoupan.


 * Zoupan is obviously a sock, as he made 372 edits in the first week on Wikipedia, and many of those required experience. Examples are redirects, , , , , and cat creations , , , , ,.


 * Ajdebre account was blocked on 24 July 2010. The first confirmed sock, was blocked on 20 September 2010. The other confirmed sock,  was blocked on 22 September 2010. Zoupan account was created on 23 September 2010, just hours after SlavSlav was blocked.


 * The accounts have the same geolocation. Ajdebre used the Swedish Google Books, , , . Confirmed socks used the Swedish GB: Kovac09 , , and SlavSlav . Same case with Zoupan , , ,.


 * SlavSlav created a list of Slavic rulers . When the list was created, many of the rulers were in red links because their articles were not created yet. Some hours after creating the list, SlavSlav was blocked. The next day Zoupan account was created and his first edits were creation of articles of rulers in red links, , , . The article of another ruler in the list was already created by Kovac09 three days earlier.


 * 10 days before the block, Ajdebre created some cats of "Category:Xth century in Serbia" format, , , , , , , , . 5 days after his account creation, Zoupan did the same , , . Zoupan even edited Ajdebre's cats, linking them with each other , , , , , , , ,.


 * Zoupan rushed to edit the same articles edited by Ajdebre and confirmed socks. There are more than 50 articles that were edited by all who follow: Ajdebre in his last month, Kovac09 and Zoupan in his first month (late September-early November). Examples:, , /// , ,  /// , ,  /// , ,  /// , ,  /// , , . Note how they, in particular Kovac09 and Zoupan edit the same parts of the articles, and insist in the same POV, trying to give a pure Serbian identity to historical figures like Saint Angelina of Serbia and Constantine Bodin.


 * Zoupan in his first month edited a lot of articles created by confirmed sock Kovac09. Examples:, /// ,  /// ,  /// ,  /// ,  /// ,.


 * As shown through the diffs above, the main interest of both Ajdebre and Zoupan is the history of early Slavs and Medieval Serbs (Middle Ages Slavs/Serbs, period before formation of Serbian nation until its complete formation). Nearly every edit of Zoupan in his first months was made on article of the topic. Ajdebre uploaded maps related to the topic, . Zoupan too , . Zoupan has uploaded many files other than maps on the topic as well.


 * Ajdebre had a strong interest in the Syriac Church, and its adherents who are known as Assyrians, , , , , , . This interest in totally uncommon among Balkan editors. Zoupan has the same interest , , , , , , , . He even used Assyrians as an argument in an unrelated dispute, in a manner that indicates Zoupan was already familiar with the way Wikipedia covered the topic. That happened in the very first month of Zoupan on Wikipedia, before Zoupan made the first edit on articles of the topic.


 * Ajdebre created Swedish Serbs, and his way of editing indicates he had much information about the community , , , . Zoupan, is the main contributor to the article (21 edits) , , , , , . The article has 13,172 bytes of content, around half of it added by Zoupan.


 * Ajdebre was addicted to a strange fringe belief that a great part of (Kosovo) Albanians are Albanized Serbs (Arnautaši fringe theory), ,, . Less than a year after Ajdebre's block, Zoupan expanded that content of the article written by Kovac09 . Zoupan has continued making contributions to the topic, the last edit made last year  (the first editor who promoted the theory on that article was Ajdebre ). Almost all promotion of Arnautaši theory on the Albanisation article was written by Ajdebre, Kovac09 and Zoupan.


 * There have been many cases where the same article was edited by IPs and Zoupan minutes after each other (it seems Zoupan forgot to login in). Examples: Z IP ; Z  IP ; Z  IP . Same has happened with Ajdebre, he also forgot to log in. Examples: Ajdebre  IP ; A  IP ; A  IP ; A  IP .  Immediately after Ajdebre was blocked, an IP started to edit articles edited by Ajdebre just before the block. Examples: Ajdebre  IP ; A  IP ; A  IP ; A  IP ; A  IP . Kovac09 edited some articles just before or after they were edited by some IPs. Examples: Kovac09  IP ; K  IP ; K  IP ; K  IP . Kovac09 forgot to log in: Kovac09  IP . All IPs mentioned above geolocate in the same town in Sweden, same ISP, same postal code and same coordinates


 * He has actually socked with IPs even after Zoupan was created: Look at this case in an article where Zoupan has been fighting for years to give a Serb origin to an Albanian tribe (using Serb fringe sources): Zoupan fights, and during his fight he uses an IP to help him avoid blocking for edit warring, , vs . Another similar case. Zoupan fights over a two maps , , , , and during the fights he uses an IP to outnumber the other editors.


 * What is the chance that an innocent account appears immediately after the another is blocked, continuing all the blocked account's edits, exactly from the same area, and with the exact same interests, including ones that are incredibly obscure for Balkan editors such as Assyrian issues? I would say, infinitesimally small -- there is no reasonable doubt at this point. The entire Zoupan account was created to avoid blocks. Resnjari (talk) 16:29, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

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As uninvolved editor, but knowing Zoupan already long time, I am surprised by this, and I would like to ask how long has been since Zoupan has not done any sockpuppeting? He has been a very active editor briging POV to many articles which are edited by few editors with same POV, this making Zoupan a productive editor monitoring and not allowing abuse. I havent read all, and I am not condoning socking, but from what I understand he is being punished for things done over 3 years ago? FkpCascais (talk) 05:20, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

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If the behavioral evidence is persuasive, Zoupan should be blocked. According to CU logs, Zoupan is editing from the same location as Ajdebre, indeed at least some of the time using the same IP range.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:52, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Blocked and tagged. Closing.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  20:42, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets



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JebaczSR has not been active for almost a year, and the account has actually made only two edits. I do not want to create extra work for the SPI clerks. However, for evidence on the behaviour of the long-time sockpuppetteer Ajdebre, I am filing this report.
 * JebaczSR was created some months after (a sock of Ajdebre) was blocked. The new account immediately created "List of Early Slav rulers" . A very large part of the content was copied from a draft created by  (another sock of Ajdebre) named "Early Slavs" . JebaczSR basically expanded SlavSlav's draft.
 * Zoupan's original username was "Jebacz". The username was changed to "Zoupan" because it was an offensive word in Serbo-Croatian
 * The same geolocation: JebaczSR placed a Swedish GoogleBooks link on the Further Reading section. As noted in the previous SPI on Ajdebre-Zoupan links, Ajdebre and socks continuously used Swedish GoogleBooks links. Ktrimi991 (talk) 16:59, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

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