Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Alborz Fallah/Archive

14 November 2011

 * Suspected sockpuppets




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Similar concentration of articles including the Talk:Iranian Azerbaijanis, Qozlu, Ardabil and other Iranian and Azerbaijani related articles and discussions Orartu (talk) 07:54, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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 * At first I did not want to say anything here, because I knew the result. But now that you say it's likely, I checked the contributions. Please kindly look at this edit and this one. Both have been done at the very same time, but only one of them is me. In fact 12:50, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sure you could find more examples like the above if you search. BTW, I use two computers, one at work (9 to 5) and the other one at home. But the only account I use is In fact. Remember my ip at work is different with the ip I use at home ( for sure ). In fact 12:58, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * To the check user: A new example: my edit and Alborz Fallah's edit, both have been done exactly at the same time. In fact 13:47, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Anyway, I do have another account (alternative) as User:الخليج الفارسي, which has been mentioned in my user page. I feel really bad to be accused of being the sockpuppet of other users. In fact 06:46, 16 November 2011 (UTC)


 * That geolocate (in section below )tends to be Tehran, that is as big as New york city . My name-account is a real one and I can publish my ID card as a Wiki file as needed . If there is a need for any more information , just leave a message in my talk page --Alborz Fallah (talk) 07:31, 16 November 2011 (UTC).


 * And according to Defending yourself against claims, If an accusation on this page is "bad faith" (an editor making a fake case for an "attack" ...) then you may wish to say so briefly... , I want to say User Orartu , is not reporting in good faith and we had a previous history of reporting to the admins . I can provide more evidence if needed . --Alborz Fallah (talk) 07:40, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't have enemity with other users,Alborz Fallah and User:In fact are active in Farsi wikipedia ,and their activities are same to eachother in that wikipedia too, in addition Alborz Fallah's activities and his views have similarity to User:Hajji Piruz (formerly knownUser:Azerbaijani)'s, but now that account is not active.--Orartu (talk) 08:39, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I guess we three are online now, let's talk about... In fact 08:42, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Having same or similar views/ideas does not mean that we are one person !!! In fact 08:44, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh! another example accidently happened just now : my edit and Alborz Fallah's edit. Both done at the very same time. In fact 08:50, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, you are right.But we can not have two people with similar characteristics and comments, it seems you want to pretend you are different users, anyway I think checkusers are experienced enough to recognize sockpuppets from non-sockpuppets.I only guess you are same persons. --Orartu (talk) 09:02, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I can not tolerate your accusation against me anymore. Let's just wait for an admin to close this case. In fact 11:05, 16 November 2011 (UTC)


 * To User:Orartu : Please show some respect. User:Mardetanha is a steward. He is also a Beurecrat in fa.wiki, and an admin in Wikimedia commons. I am a member of Arbcom in fa.wiki. I am always in touch with the admins there. Please change your attitude. In fact 18:46, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * Both accounts geolocate to the same city, but other technical indicators suggest that one account is editing from a different building from the other. If these are controlled by the same individual, one may be an account for work and another for home. It may be useful to examine the correlation of usage times of the two accounts (is one used 9-5 local time, and another in the evenings and at weekends?), and other behavioural evidence. From a technical perspective, there is a link between the accounts.  AGK  [&bull; ] 12:19, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I know both of these two users, they might backed up each other in discussions but I am almost sure that they are not same, Both users are long term contributor of fawiki and both are good standing editors Mardetanha  talk 18:06, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

User:In fact, by email has asked ,user:Mardetanha to help him, I am not sure his account is sockpuppet or not, but if his account is not sockpuppet, why he is afraid, and asked help hidden?--Orartu (talk) 18:16, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes I was asked to comment here, my point here is that I know both of these users for almost long time. This is all no big deal Mardetanha  talk 19:40, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I accept,their reasons are convincing because they are trustworthy,this account is not sockpuppet, I think this case can be declined.Thanks for your attentions--Orartu (talk) 01:35, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * seems everything has been resolved then. Alexandria   (chew out)  16:01, 18 November 2011 (UTC)