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Hello, the user Alex Neman which has been previously blocked is now suspected to be contributing as オートカー, giving the very similar edit patterns and edit summary. He has previously "announced" that he would retire from Wikipedia though. Need any actions? 114.5.211.196 (talk) 13:02, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Copied from my talk page at User talk:Dreamy Jazz/Archive 5. Posting here to centralise and as I won't be able to deal with it for a little bit. 13:10, 29 January 2020 (UTC) Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 13:10, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * ✅, ST47 (talk) 16:56, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

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Most probably the same IP user as Alex Neman (located in Surabaya, Indonesia, where he currently resided). Diff. See also 202.67.40.1 and 202.67.40.242. 114.5.211.196 (talk) 11:07, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * The IP edits are now stale. Closing. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 05:51, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

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Same as above. 182.30.204.161 (talk) 15:51, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

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The registered user looks like a WP:DUCK quacking in a megaphone to me. --'' Java Hurricane  14:36, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * Account already . . —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 05:51, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

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Same as above. 182.30.204.161 (talk) 04:54, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 05:51, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

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Well, I think the name and all of the edits at Suzuki Carry should be enough evidence.  Mr.choppers &#124;  ✎  05:31, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 05:51, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

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Quite obvious. Just in case he uses this account again (he's already blocked on Indonesian Wikipedia). 182.30.204.161 (talk) 08:16, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * Originally, I closed this with no action with the reasoning "since there's no edits since 2010, there's no need to deal with it in 2020"; however, I noticed that this sockmaster has a habit of reviving decade-old sleeper accounts, e.g. . I will make an exception in this case, but we should generally avoid reporting accounts that have not edited in years. . Mz7 (talk) 08:29, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

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Still messing with the Suzuki Carry gallery after 2-week protection, among other disruptive edits. Possible range-block required for all IPs. 182.30.204.161 (talk) 16:10, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * A range block was set for both ranges - closing. Mz7 (talk) 20:05, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

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Registered using Japanese name and reverting all of the edits. 182.30.204.161 (talk) 06:20, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

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WP:DUCK, we had another similar sockpuppet a few days back. --'' Java Hurricane  06:55, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * Both have been blocked, closing. Mz7 (talk) 20:05, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

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Same per above. 182.30.204.161 (talk) 14:37, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

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Please unrevoke talk page and email access of Alex Neman (talk) to make unblock request. So that I can edit using that account. 202.67.40.232 (talk) 15:03, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Based on your actions lately (disruptive edits, clearly not here to build an encyclopedia, per history of articles edited appears to be evading block and sockpuppeting), I think it's nearly not possible for you to unblock your user page. Not that we want to keep you blocked, but look at your actions. 182.30.204.161 (talk) 15:09, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I wish that I still want to make good edits on Wikipedia. 202.67.40.232 (talk) 15:12, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Just ask an admin to request an unblock, hope they will lift your block in the slightest. 182.30.204.161 (talk) 15:17, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 * And the IP has been rangeblocked. --'' Java Hurricane  15:47, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * Part of a range block - closing. Mz7 (talk) 20:05, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

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IP located in Surabaya, which is the same city as above IPs. 182.30.204.161 (talk) 03:34, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * Now stale, closing. Mz7 (talk) 03:31, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

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Restored previous edits of 202.67.40.232. 182.30.204.161 (talk) 13:43, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * IP blocked 3 months. Same as the range block. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 16:08, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

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Same type of edits as previous IPs, e.g. in the Honda Mobilio article: diff by 103.44.37.150, diff by 202.67.46.23 and diff by カーアップローダー 182.30.204.161 (talk) 23:49, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Continuous editing with ever-changing IPs from the same location (Surabaya). Compare this, this and this Consider to block the 202.67.40.0/21, 202.67.46.0/22 and 114.5.241.0/22 ranges and protect the articles that have been edited. 182.30.204.161 (talk) 16:48, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Suspicious edit summary: diff. Another reversion: diff. Insisting that his edits are "good enough": diff. Range-block is the only option. 182.30.204.161 (talk) 07:51, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

This and this. 182.30.204.161 (talk) 01:27, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

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182.30.204.161 Please stop reverting my edits. My edits are good enough. 114.142.169.18 (talk) 05.14, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Nope, you're avoiding the block. Unless you want to appeal the block, I will keep doing the same thing. It's that simple. 182.30.204.161 (talk) 05:51, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

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Unless diffs are provided, this report will be closed.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:04, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I've made 2 heavier rangeblocks. We'll have to see how things go for now. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 05:30, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

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The contributions say it all. Already blocked in Indonesian Wikipedia. 125.166.61.80 (talk) 15:32, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * Blocked by . Close. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 12:35, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

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Keep doing edits that related to car images: diff. 125.166.61.80 (talk) 05:45, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * I issued another block for the range. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 22:34, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

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Keep doing edits that related to car images: diff. Other edits: this, this and this 180.244.231.134 (talk) 14:28, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * Insufficient evidence (only diffs of IPs). Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 18:06, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

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Changing most images in the Toyota Allion article: diff, which is similar case in Suzuki Carry article: diff. Uploader of the pictures is named as Alex Neman:. Like Ivanvector said, although his edits are not considered as vandalism, he sorely lacks competence. 180.244.231.134 (talk) 16:25, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * Blocked by Widr. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:18, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

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Registered from Japanese wiki: check this, similar to اليكس نيمان. Same edit pattern: diff1 and diff2. 180.244.231.134 (talk) 23:56, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * The puppet is now blocked. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 01:47, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

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WP:DUCK. Usual editing pattern, usual pages, restoring blocked sockpuppet's edits. Looks like the sockmaster is using mobile IPs after getting rangeblocked on his PC IPs. Please rangeblock for a while.  Java Hurricane  16:48, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

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 * Rangeblock not feasible, IP blocked, closing. qedk (t 桜 c) 10:47, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
 * You blocked 36.82.28.192 instead of 36.82.28.208. Was that intentional? &#8208;&#8208;1997kB (talk) 16:14, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I have no clue how that happened... the innocent IP is now unblocked, no point blocking this as no more edits since, if they act up feel free to drop a note at my TP. --qedk (t 桜 c) 16:22, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

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Very similar edit patterns: this with this, and this with this 182.30.85.63 (talk) 16:05, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

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The "technically indistinguishable" account has been blocked by Materialscientist after I reported the user on WP:AIV. It could have been blocked only on the basis of username in any case as it is "Alex Neman" written in Devanagari script (the one used for Hindi and most other Indian languages). -- Java Hurricane  16:06, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
 * And the original listed account above is "Alexander Neman" in Chinese. ωικιωαrrιor ᑫᑫ1ᑫ 16:16, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

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 * Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 16:09, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ plus
 * is ✅, but.
 * , there are a ton of accounts on this range, so a sleeper check is a good idea. Typically, if a master is repeatedly reported on behavioural evidence and a CU has not been run recently in the SPI archive, it it good to request a CU look at it. TonyBallioni (talk) 00:41, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , sure thanks for the advice. I'll keep that in mind. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 00:42, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

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IP geolocates to Surabaya, which is already known to be the city of residence of the sockmaster. Moreover, the IP is taking an interest in pages edited by the master. Quack!  Java Hurricane  11:58, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

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 * The /16 doesn't seem to have much traffic by Alex at this time, and therefore, it's not appropriate to proceed with a block. We may need to head towards edit filters. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 13:50, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

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On Daihatsu Ayla: editing in simple English structure like every other edit Alex Neman did. 182.30.214.245 (talk) 09:05, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

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All edits reverted. Asking for CU to check for sleepers. -- Java Hurricane  09:40, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

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 * ✅ and . Closing. TonyBallioni (talk) 23:15, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

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On Daihatsu Ayla: Restored previous IP (have been rangeblocked) edits diff. IP located in Surabaya 182.30.12.31 (talk) 13:13, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

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 * IP now blocked as part of a range block. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 13:54, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

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IP located in Surabaya and performed similar edit styles in Suzuki Carry, Adland, and other articles. 182.30.133.131 (talk) 07:28, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

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This does not seem like Alex. The IP's main interest seems to be music rather than automobiles, but I am not sure that it is not Alex either.  Java Hurricane  07:59, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The edit histories for J.CO Donuts, Wewe Gombel and Adland probably show the evidence though. 182.30.133.131 (talk) 08:07, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I got it wrong. Looks like a WP:DUCK case.  Java Hurricane  08:51, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * All edits have been reverted per WP:BANREVERT, as Alex Neman is currently under a WP:3X ban from editing Wikipedia.  Java Hurricane  08:58, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

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 * The IP edits aren't recent enogh to block. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 07:47, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

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IP located in Jakarta, but the editing patterns are similar to previous IPs (editing gallery formats). 182.30.133.131 (talk) 11:13, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

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 * Anon blocked several ranges. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 03:40, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

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IP located in Surabaya (hometown of Alex), and his edits are quite obvious. 182.30.137.85 (talk) 11:54, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

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 * Another rangeblock -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 15:21, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

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IP located in Surabaya (hometown of Alex), and WP:BMB. 182.30.80.146 (talk) 04:55, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

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 * - Need more information - I see that these IPs are from the sockmaster's location and have an overlap in interest on various cars, but not clear how this is characteristic of them. I also note that the ranges these IPs are from (Special:Contributions/116.206.40.0/24 and Special:Contributions/202.67.40.0/23) have a decent amount of other activity; I'm hesitant to rangeblock, and since this appears to be a dynamic IP I doubt per-IP blocks will be very effective. GeneralNotability (talk) 00:38, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I've redone my original range blocks for longer. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 02:20, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

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IP located in Surabaya (see past cases), and editing patterns are also familiar. 182.30.204.77 (talk) 04:11, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

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 * Can someone redo my rangeblock for 3 months now please? Block log -- Amanda - mobile  (aka DQ) 07:20, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * done as requested. The reported IP is caught up in this range block, so nothing left to do here. Therefore close. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 10:31, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

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Three-time edit (two of them were reverts) regarding car galleries in Honda Accord article (diff 1, diff 2, diff 3). All IPs located in Surabaya (see past cases). The 140.0.0.0/16 range had also been blocked before for 6 months. *Update: 3 more IPs has been added above. 182.30.143.27 (talk) 09:32, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * Looks like Neman, all right. Blocked 140.0.0.0/16 and 182.1.99.6/19 for six months each. AmandaNP has already hit 116.206.40.0/23 with a rangeblock as well. Closing. GeneralNotability (talk) 22:29, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

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Obvious block evasion. The "182.1.x.x" range is a bit tricky. 182.30.143.27 (talk) 13:21, 21 December 2020 (UTC)



Insisting on changing car images for no strong reasons, as always. IP located in Surabaya. Andra Febrian (talk) 16:38, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

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''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.'' The user appears to be block evading by using a proxy. In addition to this, all of the IPs appear to come from Singapore. Maybe block these existing IPs and search for similar edits, or IPs used to make similar edits from Singapore. EGL1234 (talk) 15:48, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

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 * Not clear there's anything useful to do here. None of these IPs have edited in weeks, and I'd have to block 182.1.64.0/18 to do anything useful, which is way too wide a range to consider.  If you could identify some specific pages that are common targets, semi-protection might be a better tool.  Closing with no action taken. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

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Back and forth changing some images of their own (mainly infobox ones) without prior discussions:, 182.30.82.165 (talk) 02:43, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

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 * Range is Special:Contributions/158.140.187.192/26. Cabayi (talk) 08:16, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * - There's no doubt that a good chunk (maybe half) of the traffic on 158.140.187.192/26 is Alex, but there's also a lot that looks legit. It's no wonder this case has languished on the open queue for so long.  I know /26 is quite narrow, but I'm still loathe to block if half the traffic is legit.  I'm hoping CU can provide some insight on the wisdom of a year-long range block. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:55, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not terribly familiar with this case and I don't see any info on cuwiki, so I really can't tell which user on the range is the target. There are many, as you suspected, and several who I don't think are related (including one very old account) match the behaviour I can glean from the archives. From what I've seen there, Alex Neman is a person with access to many internet connections and/or an ISP with loose range assignments, so if they're blocked here they'll quickly move on to another. For that reason I'd recommend against a long block. But if you think the behaviour matches then a block is warranted. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:46, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 * pinging you for a second opinion, you seem to be most familiar with this case recently. Roy: Amanda's not around a lot, don't feel like you need to wait. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:49, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I do see a crap ton of colleterial. If it's only anon edits that are disruptive then maybe a block anon only but allowing account creation? --  Amanda  (aka DQ) 16:41, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, yes, I assumed since RoySmith was talking about a rangeblock that it would be anon-only. Don't hardblock this range. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:49, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , That falls into the category of "Things I expected to hear but hoped I was wrong". I'm going to close this with no action, but take a look at spreading some semi-protection around. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:16, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
 * just in case I'm in too deep and used unrecognized checkuser jargon there, by "hardblock" I meant checking the "Apply block to logged-in users from this IP address" box in the block screen. I realize now that "hardblock" means something else in terms of the block policy, and I'll try not to do that again. I think a (anon-only) rangeblock is warranted, if you think the behaviour matches, and I think Amanda was agreeing with me on that. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 00:31, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * , Yes, I understood what you meant by hardblock. I was mostly considering what  you said about Alex appearing to have many internet connections available so a short block here (say, a week or a month) would just transiently move them to another connection, which seemed kind of pointless. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:57, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

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Same editing pattern as previous IPs, such as changing gallery parameters. 182.29.1.237 (talk) 04:56, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

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 * There's not enough to go on here. Which "previous IP"?  There's been so many.  And this report filed by an IP, so I can't even have a conversation about it.  I'm going to close this with no action taken.  As I mentioned back in April, this guy is using so many IPs, blocking is pointless.  If you can identify specific pages that have been frequent targets, WP:RFPP will probably be more useful. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:41, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

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This is very likely a sockpuppet of Alex Neman. His location (Surabaya, Indonesia) and editing behaviour (mostly on automobiles) is very suspiciously similar to Alex's. Very recently he was editing under another sockpuppet IP (158.140.167.100) until it was banned last month. Surely something can be done to prevent this guy from continuously creating new IP's to edit under? He's very disruptive with his constant unexplained edits. Democfest (talk) 09:20, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

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 * --Blablubbs (talk) 11:18, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Following ranges blocked for 2 years. Closing.
 * Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 11:40, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 11:40, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 11:40, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 11:40, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

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Again, same user making disruptive edits on the same automotive pages. Same location (Surabaya, Indonesia) again. Blatantly obvious. Was literally banned again yesterday under 202.67.40.253 Democfest (talk) 04:18, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

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 * blocked for 3 months. No need for CU here as it's just an IP being reported and CUs won't connect IPs to accounts. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:41, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

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Not completely certain if these IPs are sockpuppets of Alex; slightly different location, albeit still very close to their original city (Surabaya, Indonesia) but their editing pattern and behaviour (again, predominantly on articles about Japanese automobiles) is very very similar, almost identical to their previous banned sockpuppet accounts. Also, they seem to have popped up immediately after their previous IP was banned. Worth a check Democfest (talk) 01:59, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

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 * blocked for 1 month. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 11:13, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

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This is definitely him. Same location (Surabaya) and same editing behaviour Democfest (talk) 02:09, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

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 * Blocked for 1 week. I haven't blocked the range yet as they've only used that IP. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 11:10, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

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Slightly different locations but still very close in proximity to Alex's original location (Surabaya). Very similar editing behaviour - constant reverts and disruptive. All suspiciously popped up after previous IPs were banned. Worth a check Democfest (talk) 06:42, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

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 * and both blocked. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:10, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

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Not completely certain about this one but his editing behaviour is again very similar to Alex's, focusing predominantly on Japanese/korean cars and having the same erratic, mass edits everyday. Suspiciously restores edits of Alex's previously banned sockpuppet IP's which leads me to believe it could be the same guy behind this account. Democfest (talk) 06:48, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * In this instance, he keeps insisting on replacing the existing image in the "fifth generation" section infobox of the Honda Odyssey (international) article. Alex's previously banned IP ( 114.79.23.176 ) removed it first on the 18th January for no particular reason. The infobox image was restored shortly after, before AutomobileFan2023 came in to remove the image from the infobox once again on the 22nd January. Bear in mind that Alex was continuously doing this on his other IP accounts before; 18th January, 18th Janaury as a couple of references. For a completely new account to simply repeat and continue the behaviour of previously banned IP accounts is very suspicious
 * Also, the general editing behaviour of AutomobileFan2023 suggests that it could quite easily be another one of Alex's sockpuppet accounts. Most suspiciously, the account has the exact same interest in editing only Japanese/Korean car articles, and it seemed to have popped up right after after a massive IP range block was applied to prevent Alex from using new IP accounts. Democfest (talk) 03:05, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

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 * -, can you provide some diffs of this user restoring sock edits or engaging in other suspicious behaviour? I had a look at their edits but it wasn't immediately obvious. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 01:46, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * . --Blablubbs (talk) 21:30, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * --Blablubbs (talk) 21:37, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * --Blablubbs (talk) 21:37, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * --Blablubbs (talk) 21:37, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * --Blablubbs (talk) 21:37, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * --Blablubbs (talk) 21:37, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
 * --Blablubbs (talk) 21:37, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

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Same location (Surabaya) and same editing behaviour - continuing on changing images for no given reason Democfest (talk) 10:21, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

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 * for two weeks, along with and . Closing. DatGuyTalkContribs 09:10, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

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Same location (Surabaya), same editing behaviour and patterns Democfest (talk) 01:26, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

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 * See above. DatGuyTalkContribs 09:10, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

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Same location (Surabaya), same disruptive editing behaviour on the same pages Democfest (talk) 11:38, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

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 * Rangeblocks applied, closing. DatGuyTalkContribs 11:51, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

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Location is close in proximity to Alex's original city of Surabaya, very similar editing behaviour, popped up not too long after his previous sockpuppet IPs were banned Democfest (talk) 22:25, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

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 * IP blocked for 1 month. Closing Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 09:44, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

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Same location (Surabaya), same editing behaviour Democfest (talk) 03:23, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

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 * IP blocked for a week. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 04:19, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

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All in close proximity to original location of Surabaya, very similar editing behaviour Democfest (talk) 05:36, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

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 * and blocked. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 06:40, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

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Same location (Surabaya), same editing behaviour Democfest (talk) 02:59, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

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 * blocked for 6 months. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:59, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

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Similar location still close in proximity to original city (Surabaya), same editing patterns and behaviour Democfest (talk) 14:08, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

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 * blocked for 3 months. Closing.

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Similar/same locations as Alex's original location, same repetitive disruptive editing behaviour on the same pages Democfest (talk) 11:06, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

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 * These are all 🦆 🦆. Unfortunately, the editing spread widely across the range 112.215.241.0/24 suggests that blocking individual IP addresses in that range might possibly just result in the editor moving to another one, whereas blocking the whole range is out of the question, in view of collateral damage. I have therefore put some time into checking all recent editing in that range, and I have placed range blocks on smaller ranges which cover all the editing I have seen in that range by Alex Neman, but no editing by anyone else for at least several months, and in at least one case none for well over a year. I have also done the same for the one other IP address listed in the 112.215.0.0/16 range. At present I don't have time to do similar checking for the other IP addresses listed, but maybe someone else can do it, or I may do it when I do have time. JBW (talk) 10:36, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I have now looked at the range 140.213.0.0/16, which I thought would be easier, because there are only 2 IP addresses listed above, but I found another 6 (140.213.42.124, 140.213.44.252, 140.213.56.13, 140.213.56.15, 140.213.56.217, 140.213.59.128), and there may be more. 140.213.42.0/24 is already blocked by, which has just been followed by moving to other IP addresses, and unfortunately that is probably going to continue to happen: the best we can hope to do is slightly slow the editor down by forcing them to keep finding new IP addresses to move to. I have blocked various subranges of 140.213.0.0/16,for times varying from 2 weeks to 3 months, depending on the amount of other editing in the ranges, and therefore the likely amount of collateral damage. The other IP addresses in the list provided above by  were easier to deal with, because there has never been any other editing in the range 115.178.225.248/30, so I was able to block that without worries. (That is assuming that a few edits about noodles were the same person. However, those edits are from one of the IP addresses used by this editor and never before used by anyone, they started 4 minutes after other edits from the same editor on the same IP address, and were followed less than an hour later by more edits from the same person in the same range, so despite the totally different subject matter, I am totally confident that it is the same person.)
 * Since all the IP addresses listed are now covered by various range blocks, I am closing this investigation. JBW (talk) 15:20, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * (For what it is worth, I have now seen more noodle-related editing by another one of Alex Neman's IP addresses, on one of the same articles as the one mentioned above, giving yet further evidence that it's the same person. JBW (talk) 15:29, 22 February 2023 (UTC))

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Again - same behaviour and same interest in the same pages. Similar locations as well Democfest (talk) 02:39, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

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 * & blocked for 1 month. Closing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Callanecc (talk • contribs) 11:44, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

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Same/similar locations, same editing behaviour on the same pages Democfest (talk) 01:28, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

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 * Lets see.  blocked for one month. Closing. DatGuyTalkContribs 21:57, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

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Very similar behaviour, similar location Democfest (talk) 00:43, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

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 * Closing as IP has gone inactive. Spicy (talk) 15:25, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

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Same location, same editing behaviour Democfest (talk) 00:27, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

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It looks like the edits under are overwhelmingly this user, and the IP changes on a daily basis. Is a rangeblock possible here? --Sable232 (talk) 21:34, 30 March 2023 (UTC)


 * This guy is a menace. It's both hilarious and pathetic that admins have almost zero power to rangeblock and prevent him from simply creating an infinite number of alternative accounts. Getting blocked is of zero consequence to Alex - Democfest (talk) 10:23, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Why you always revert my edits? 158.140.167.0 (talk) 10:42, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Why are you continuously creating new sockpuppet accounts to edit with Alex? You've been banned for a reason, and creating new accounts to get around this will not be tolerated Democfest (talk) 12:53, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

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 * Rangeblocked. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 09:26, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets
Either a sock or a meatpuppet, editing many of the same articles as the sockmaster and IPs, and reinstating the IPs' reverted edits (e.g., , , ). Sable232 (talk) 00:17, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

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 * I am quite confident this is not the same person - if you look at their uploads on Commons, where they are a very established editor, they are consistently taken using different cameras in a different country from Neman's. Editors are allowed to restore edits by a blocked user if they feel they are improvements and are acting on their own accord. However, I would caution that if they are doing this because Alex Neman has asked them to, they are violating WP:PROXYING which may lead to sanctions if continued. Closing. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 18:56, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

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Defends his own sockpuppet IP accounts and completely outs himself by admitting that he created this account to get involved Democfest (talk) 15:16, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

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 * IP hoping isn't going to help find sleepers. -- Amanda (she/her)  01:44, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Tagged, closing. Spicy (talk) 21:51, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

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Similar location, same behaviour Democfest (talk) 15:26, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

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 * IP blocked. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 09:29, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

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Using a sockpuppet account to spam messages on talk pages Democfest (talk) 15:55, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

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 * IP blocked. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 09:28, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

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Significantly different IP addresses but suspiciously still the same editing behaviour. Still the same country as well. Worth a check. It should be noted that like the previous sets of IP addresses Alex used for sockpuppetry, there are probably dozens more out there that haven't been reported yet. It's simply impossible to crack down on all of them Democfest (talk) 02:16, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

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There's been a lot of editing from the range lately. It's a wide range though, and it's hard to tell how much possible collateral impact there would be from a rangeblock. This user seems to be pretty adept at changing IPs too. --Sable232 (talk) 15:24, 22 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Honestly at this point, i think we just have to accept that collateral blocks are inevitable and have to be accepted. This guy is playing the system like a fiddle. Democfest (talk) 07:15, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

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 * The IPs haven't edited in weeks, and I'm unwilling to block that wide a range without a compelling analysis. Closing. Bbb23 (talk) 16:08, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

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Same/similar location, similar editing behaviour on similar style of pages (automotive) Democfest (talk) 03:37, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

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 * Blocked for 3 days. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:03, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

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Same editing behaviour on the same automotive pages. Uses his own wikimedia uploaded images Democfest (talk) 08:04, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

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 * Blocked for 3 days. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:03, 28 September 2023 (UTC)