Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Alexkyoung/Archive

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Sven Karmanova is a new account, restores Alexkyoung's edits at History of Xinjiang. Sven Karmanova also restored diff a comment made by new user Steph Goodwin diff. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk!  05:23, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

see also Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk!  03:01, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Note, again, that Alexkyoung claims diff to have written the info at Uyghur women under Qing rule, which was split-off by me from History of Xinjiang; yet that info was written before Alexkyoung created his account, and was added by Milktaco diff. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rajmaan/Archive for the confusing history of Rajmaan. And may I suggest to block User:Dividing as well? User:Milktaco redirects to that page. Or are those really two different users? Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk!  03:35, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

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I note that Alex hasn't edited in four days. It's possible he thinks not logging into the one account after creating the new one(s) will prevent CU, or some such. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 11:30, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

(Sniff) yep, sure smells like sock puppets to me. Horse Eye Jack (talk) 17:03, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

I notice that the new account User:Bonsonso is editing the article Civilization state which was created by the master.Adoring nanny (talk) 03:44, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
 * User:Berean Hunter pinging you to make sure you see the above. Not sure what is the protocol for a possible new sock after CU.Adoring nanny (talk) 03:31, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

All of these accounts seem to be operated by the same person. They all start by editing articles that Alexkyoung had not touched, but pursuing the same pre-occupation with making China look good and/or the US look bad. They may do a few gnomish edits on random articles, but then move to the main battlegrounds, History of Xinjiang and South Korea–United States relations.

After having WP:MEAT explained to him/her, Alexkyoung claimed that General Lincoln, Sven Karmanova and Jarvis Maximus were friends who joined Wikipedia to support him/her. However, General Lincoln was created on 28th May, during a gap in Alexkyoung's editing following this warning, and spent 2 hours editing Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (a US-China dispute) and Goguryeo controversies (a dispute between China and Korea over history). They re-emerged for 4 gnoming edits on 30th June, during Alexkyoung's block, and then again on 4th July to finally support Alexkyoung at History of Xinjiang and South Korea–United States relations.

Alexkyoung has more recently claimed that Steph Goodwin is a sock of Sven Karmanova (or perhaps the other way round, as the Sven Karmanova account was created after Steph Goodwin's last edit). In this connection, note that Steph Goodwin has promoted "Han-Tibetan" as a name for Sino-Tibetan. This neologism was introduced by Alexkyoung, and is used by no-one else. Kanguole 14:33, 14 July 2019 (UTC)


 * I saw that Alexkyoung was blocked on wikivoyage (28. July 2019) as a sock of User:Libertarianmoderate . The Libertarianmoderate account was active on en wp since 2018-09-01 (oldest account?) until he was indeffed for vandalism (29 January 2019). The account is globally locked. JimRenge (talk) 19:07, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
— Berean Hunter   (talk)  23:50, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Marking to request CU attention. I was looking at Alexkyoung and another user over possible sockpuppetry concerns myself, but ultimately ruled out the pair I was looking at. I would not be surprised to find that they had created new accounts now, however, given their own recent block for edit warring and personal attacks. I see that Alexkyoung has not edited since July 3 - possibly switched accounts entirely in order to lose the baggage of the previous AN/I threads and so on. It is simply not believable that this is a brand new editor. ST47 (talk) 06:17, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I will note that Alexkyoung and were found unlikely here. That check was performed before either one of these new accounts was created, and the General Lincoln account has also gone dark. ST47 (talk) 06:19, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I withdraw my finding. When I review it now, it looks like an error on my part. 's findings below make much more sense. My apologies.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:33, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * All four accounts have ✅ useragents. Sven Karmanova, Steph Goodwin and General Lincoln have primarily been using colocation hosts and VPN proxies, making geolocation difficult. Alexkyoung has used more than one VPN service but does not use them exclusively. The latter will need to contact me to answer my question concerning other accounts. In the meantime, consider the others as to each other and evaluate based on behavior. Meat is also possible.


 * was renamed to in 2008. The Milktaco that is presently blocked was created in 2012. Separate accounts. ST47 (talk) 06:37, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Looking at behavioral patterns: I haven't checked all of these accounts yet, but I find "Sven Karmanova" so similar to Alexkyoung and so suspicious overall I'm inclined to block both. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:53, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

— Berean Hunter   (talk)  13:33, 11 July 2019 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  17:29, 12 July 2019 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  12:42, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Newest sock  ST47 (talk) 09:05, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
 * ...and ✅. Also, the accounts, and  are on the same IP and  from a technical perspective. The account  is the only other one on the same IP but using a different device.
 * The account is ✅ to Alexkyoung and now CU blocked.
 * Fut.Perf. has made good blocks.
 * I've made these into checkuser blocks for the time being and discussing with them via email.
 * does have a common UA which overlaps one of the devices used. Their location is different than any previous location however that is a pattern that has fit other socks also. From a cu perspective, but in this SPI case I would say that this account should be judged on behavior as meatpuppets are also possible.