Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Alfasxp07/Archive

02 May 2014

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I notice that after user Alfasxp07 hitted 3RR limitation, the newly-registered user Deluxpizzatopping just popped out of nowhere within 24 hours later to undo my edit. The diffs are as follow:

Alfasxp07

 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2013%E2%80%9314_Thai_political_crisis&diff=606193269&oldid=606192449
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2013%E2%80%9314_Thai_political_crisis&diff=606192225&oldid=606191507
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2013%E2%80%9314_Thai_political_crisis&diff=606190954&oldid=606190030

Deluxpizzatopping (registered and go straight to edit proficiently)

 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Deluxpizzatopping
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2013%E2%80%9314_Thai_political_crisis&diff=prev&oldid=606292772
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2013%E2%80%9314_Thai_political_crisis&diff=prev&oldid=606293082
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2013%E2%80%9314_Thai_political_crisis&diff=prev&oldid=606293425

Deluxpizzatopping also support the rfc with the same position as Alfasxp07, and continued the discussion of Alfasxp07 in the talk page
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2013%E2%80%9314_Thai_political_crisis&diff=prev&oldid=606293647

Khunthaibkk
This is quite interesting. This user always logged on with Mobile edition, which might explain his all short edits. Again, after Fredtham59's 2 undos, this user came in in an hour to undo the rest of my edit. He also support Fredtham59 with no more points made and attack other person. All he has ever contributed is support others in discussion without any explanation, undoing edits and attack other people. Very same behaviour I think. The name "Khunthaibkk" might be a misreading of the word "Khonthaibkk", which means "Thai people in Bangkok" and this might imply he is not actually a Thai.

Other details
The IP 31.220.30.241, which claim he is Thai and posting from internet cafe with similar tone and style of discussion, originate from China. Looks like a proxy for me.
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2013%E2%80%9314_Thai_political_crisis&diff=prev&oldid=605879163
 * http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/31.220.30.241

The rest of IPs are either WP:ATTACK me or support others in same group with no additional points, which is same behaviour as other registered user and seems to have suspiciously lots of knowledge for the topic despite all being anonymous. All registered user involved in the incident later posted "support" to the RFC so these IPs cannot claim to be those users without violating sockpuppetry rule. IPs posted only to the talk page so please check their contribs page for diffs.

Also, There is another newly registered account Ladypalm999, whom Deluxpizzatopping came to support and made an excuse in advance that he is also a new user just like Ladypalm999. I am quite sure this is a sockpuppet, but what I am not sure is who actually control this.
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2013%E2%80%9314_Thai_political_crisis&diff=prev&oldid=606741092
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2013%E2%80%9314_Thai_political_crisis&diff=prev&oldid=606741412

Deluxpizzatopping's User Page also describe oneself quite obviously that he has some mission here other than contribution

All registered users mentioned here created User Page as the first thing after registration, which is quite surprising for new users and I believe it's for avoiding red username in the history and signature.

UPDATE: as the other case I filed has been closed as positive, I would like to request investigation for relation to those accounts too. My ground is as follows:
 * Fredtham59 and Deluxpizzatopping both called me a "crustacean".
 * Deluxpizzatopping somehow gained a knowledge that Fredtham59 was also investigated, and notify him in his talk page. I am aware that investigation requests are public, but I think very few users will look through the list for no reason.
 * Their tone of arguments are very resemblance. Please take a look in Talk Page, they tried to convince each other to end discussion, take the analysts opinion as a fact and say I should listen to them because they are majority. They both also have same strange idea that Thai editors in general are having NPOV because Thai directly involved in the crisis ("The Thai community is directly concerned by the conflict and according to thai and foreign news deeply divided, there is serious issues with BIAS, NPOV, COI within the community." by Alfasxp07 and "WP:NPOV Most undo was made by Thai editors who might have a conflict of interest as they are directly concerned with the subject." by Fredtham59).

In my perspective, newly registration, undoing exactly the same thing and the resemblance of his tone of discussion, with the excessive use of "!" for both users are enough evidence to request an investigation. All comes with the same pattern of discussion, which is attacking me, convincing editors to stop discussion and hardly provide any logical reasoning for the disputed topic. The IP I included looks like one too, but the IP has been used only once so I am not very certain. Biglobster (talk) 17:41, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Comments by other users
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I would like to add Zizoulalalouzi to the list of suspect sockpuppets. He/She instantly started voicing his/her opinion in the talk page without any prior contributions towards Wikipedia after his/her registration. (See his/her contributions log here)

There is strong evidence of sockpuppetry between Zizoulalalouzi and 125.25.205.103 (an IP recently brought up by Biglobster). Zizoulalalouzi's comments happened roughly 2 hours after the IP's set of comments. It is very unlikely that two new editors are to start contributing on the same talk page in the same day voicing the same point of view would be a coincidence. Please refer to link to talk page discussions which can be found [|here] (Note: Please scroll down to see more messages between the two accounts) Hethokrilliondata (talk) 12:56, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

I don't think all these IPs and accounts are sockpuppets of Alfasxp07. I suspect that some belong to Fredtham59.

Khunthaibkk actually appeared before Alfasxp07 and instantly attacked LilertoadKhonthai and praised Fredtham59 right after registering. Talk page evidence: [] (Please scroll down, his signature is currently a red link) Contributions log (note his instant contribution to the talk page): []

IP 125.25.205.103 and Zizoulalalouzi both comment in favour of Fredtham59 when he is about to lose an argument regarding the lead. The two accounts also appeared one or two days into Fredtham59's absence. See talk page discussions starting from this section: [] Hethokrilliondata (talk) 11:30, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * All of the named accounts and IP addresses are ❌. Consider that this is a very popular topic, and that it is likely to attract a lot of editors, including new editors. Risker (talk) 02:23, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Closing without action. AGK  [•] 22:15, 21 May 2014 (UTC)