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11 March 2014

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I have already blocked Royale.heart, primarily as an advertising only account, but I noticed that there is crossover with some of the recently blocked socks. For example Royale.heart added this to Hyun Jin Moon followed a month later by Verdict78 (already blocked) adding this to the same article. If you take a look at Special:Undelete/Nelson_Nigel you'll see that Happydit edited the article as well as Royale.heart. Amanda Davis2 created Leesa Rowland. It was deleted as a copyvio but not before Happydit edited it and then recreated it before Amanda Davis2 edited again today. Robert Vinson was created by Vishal1811 (who advertises his WP abilities on elance) and Happydit 'improved the article' by removing maintenance tags and also voted !keep in the AFD. It all seems a bit suspicious to me. SmartSE (talk) 20:28, 11 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Happydit has also made similar 'improvements' to Marcelo Henrique Almeida which was created by who was blocked as a paid editor in December. Would Coffee or Bilby know of any other crossovers? SmartSE (talk) 20:56, 11 March 2014 (UTC)


 * It may also be worth checking the socks listed here, since Vishal1811 uploaded a photo to commons and added it to an article that had created (one of those socks listed there). That article also leads us to  who recently recreated the same article after the previous version was deleted as spam. I also came across  who's only edit was to remove a PROD from an article that Vishal1811 created. SmartSE (talk) 00:16, 12 March 2014 (UTC)


 * also seems slightly suspect - adding promotional content to Darren Cullen and the related Graffiti Kings (note that this is the account's very first edit). Vishal1811 uploaded a related image a week before Sarah1971 started editing and added it to Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge - a brazen bit of spamming IMO. SmartSE (talk) 00:39, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * is another linked to the Graffiti Kings articles - only edits are to those articles including a !keep in the AFD on Graffiti Kings. SmartSE (talk) 12:38, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Note how all three of these editors made edits to Leake Street where GK is based. AlFreshCo followed by Vishal1811 and then Sarah1971. SmartSE (talk) 15:35, 12 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Also added based on that account creating  Mikhail Tank which has been deleted via AFD twice and was edited recently by Vishal1811 and also by Wikifan115 (mentioned earlier as a paid editor) a few days after being created. SmartSE (talk) 14:04, 12 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Looking at Vishal1811's commons uploads led me to Brad Gosse created by who uses their moves articles to mainspace from userspace, avoiding NPP like Morning277. Also, strange is that the image that Vishal1811 added is a much higher resolution than the source cited at commons, which as I noted earlier is also the case for the Graffiti Kings logo - I've never seen this happen before, so it seems likely that there is some relation. Bemanna added content to the repeatedly recreated Bugscore (of which Gosse is an employee). That article was created by  who has an extensive history of creating fairly blatant adverts e.g. check Jclemen's PROD of Creating Woody Woodward (businessman and author). I've no idea who the sockmaster is, but these are at least tangentially related. SmartSE (talk) 21:13, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

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 * Though I can't speak to the sock accusation, I warned Happydit not to delete maintenance templates on January 1, 2014. He deleted my warning, which as we all know means that he is presumed to have read it. As points out, the user removed maintenance templates a second time on February 3 with insufficient explanation. This might be indicative of a promotional agenda, particularly when you balance it against other facts. For example, Happydit is not slick with English, but pulls whole articles out of thin air and for very obscure people, or when he produces coherent content like in this edit (questionable content, though...) Who's passing him this content? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:06, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * You've made a good point - those don't look like edits made the same person. SmartSE (talk) 00:16, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, and lest I forget, I noticed Happydit made this edit which reminded me of an edit I came across a couple of days ago here by Ameen nordeen. Might not be anything, but worth a look. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:13, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
 * That's just bizarre! SmartSE (talk) 00:16, 12 March 2014 (UTC)


 * There's a paid sockfarm at work here and I think it's part of the Morning277 family. I found Royale.heart and Johnny Ward by perusing a paid editing ad on fiverr. The same ad also leads to DJ Brian Dawe (a previous Morning277 job), Simon Rex, Growth Hacking, Vanna Bonta, James Goolnik (this one goes back to 2011) Articles for creation/Heart Your Smile (associated with James Goolnik, created by Ryale.heart), Ely Sakhai (The subject apparantly wanted this deleted... it's a borderline notable article with a negative bent. We should look into this.), Travel website (Morning277 was involved with this as well), and Tosca (software). Only several of the pages were edited by Royale.heart, but looking through the edit histories, its easy to see the other promotional accounts, most of which are one-offs that disappear after their work is done. I'm 100% certain this is the work of a promotional sockfarm.  Them  From  Space  01:40, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Wrong puppet-master? - is there a reason these accounts were filed under User:TimeQueen32 instead of User:Aviation geek? davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  03:03, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * See Sockpuppet investigations/Aviation geek/Archive. TimeQueen32 was reported as a possible sock of Aviation geek, the outcome was that TimeQueen32 was part of a sockfarm but Aviation geek was not the master (the tag on the User:TimeQueen32 should probably be updated). January  ( talk ) 08:09, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello :) Can I ask why I'm added to this page? obviously someone thinks I'm a sockpuppet but can I ask why you think this, is there 1 or more persons you think I am or linked to? can you tell me who they are on this list? why do I not have my own sockpuppet page dedicated to me?  Sarah   1971  03:54, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello, firstly I & my partner (Alfeshco) have no connection to artist or the company, I just feel the art form needs more recognition. I must also admit that at first I did not know how Wikipedia worked & I did edit a article by saying I was the artist (I'm not) I said this as I thought it would help with the edit staying up as I was not to clear on how Wikipedia worked, plus I did suport the edit with weblinks. Really sorry for causing any problems & please let street art have a voice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarah1971 (talk • contribs) 13:01, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Sarah1971 - I'm willing to assume good faith, but you appear to be admitting to making this edit as well which is clearly promotional and is not supported by the sources cited in the article. How do you know all these details if you have no connection to the artist? Why would you pretend to be him and even include his email address?! How do you explain getting involved in this at the exact same time as Vishal1811? SmartSE (talk) 13:54, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi SmartSE - I have a interest in this art form & was happy when I found the Darren Cullen page on Wikipedia as any credible information on street art & its artists is hard to find. The main bulk of the info I submitted was taken from the artists personal website, there was already a link to his website so I just added more detail? As I said I was & still really unsure how Wikipedia works & thought it would help it stay on the page by my thinking it was cleaver thinking (it wasn't). With regards to Vishall811, there is no connection, why link me to this user & not the many other users that have edited the pages I'm working on. If it just a case of timing then surly this can happen? even if its 1 in a million/billion, it does happen, people do win lottery's. I do want to edit & start other pages but when the Graffiti Kings page was flagged I was waiting to see what happened as I'm still learning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarah1971 (talk • contribs) 14:23, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I can't find any of that content on his website. The links above demonstrate why I'm suspicious. Let's just wait and see what the checkusers find. SmartSE (talk) 15:35, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes your correct I just checked, the page has since had a bigger update since I last read it, its much better. Is it OK to use this new info taken from the artist personal page? with regards to links above what do you mean by this? what is this page about anyway, I'm lost as to why I'm being attacked. Sarah1971 (talk) 16:43, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Have you not read my comments? I have already said my partner is alfreshco before anyone asked or mentioned him, can 2 people that live in the same house not have a Wikipedia account? & share the same interests, is it 1 account per IP address?Sarah1971 (talk) 16:49, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The page has changed but it didn't contain that information before either. Also, where did you get the high resolution logo from? It's much bigger than the source listed and tineye can't find the high resolution version anywhere else on the internet. And yes, I have read your comments, but that still doesn't explain the crossover with Vishal1811 does it? SmartSE (talk) 16:57, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * No you wouldn't of found all the info on that page you noted above as Web Archive has only recorded that Graffiti Kings page 3 times, look HERE - the last time it was recorded was the 13th of Jan 2014, my edit on the Wikipedia page was in February. Also I never mentioned that all the info I read on the website was from the only page you have looked at, I took the info from the many pages on hes website, just like reading a book. The page I used mainly was THIS Some of the images on this page are posts with great story's about the artists that have created the images. Bare in mind that this page does change allot, I know this because I always listen to their radio. Sorry cant help with the image, it is on the company website mind, I remember because it took me ages to find a big version, 90% sure it was on the radio page aswell. No idea about Vishall811 sorry. Sarah1971 (talk) 19:30, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Please check for sleepers and check the newly-created accounts editing Luke Cooper and Talk:Luke Cooper. If any newly-created accounts edit Articles for deletion/Luke Cooper between now and the time you do the check, please check to see if they may be puppets as well.  Thanks.  FYI, Luke Cooper was created by .  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  03:31, 13 March 2014 (UTC)


 * March 25, 2014 - New user, SPA, SimoninIceland is taking issue with an article, Fescal from being AfDed. This is one that Happydit has edited. Their request for help sounds really strange to my ears: . However, I am naturally full of suspicion. It might be nothing, but it's curious. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:13, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmm... that article was created by an editor reported to COIN today and who certainly appears to be a paid editor. Whether SimoninIceland is related to all these socks though is difficult to say. SmartSE (talk) 19:21, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Agreed, I'm not 100%, but he's certainly got a lot of fire for someone who's brand new and who's arguing about an article that's less than a month old. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:21, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

 * - Who knows how much checkuser will be able to tell us. But it's definitely worth a look for confirmation and sleepers. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:52, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * - Firstly I would welcome another checkuser to take a look, What it comes down to is there is one reasonably sized group, and several smaller groups. Some of them have overlap, and some do not. It looks familiar to what wikipr was (maybe) doing. Oddly enough none of these accounts are related to the original TimeQueen32/that farm. I'll look more into it but this is anything but clear cut. The issue with all these paid editing cases is you realize there are countless individuals, some are freelancers, some telecommute, some use proxies or vpns. All told, it really just makes things difficult to nail down. NativeForeigner Talk 19:26, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * There appear to be three groups here, all of which are paid editing, and none of which seem to actually be technically related to TimeQueen. Some of these acoutns coule be meat but are technically clean. NativeForeigner Talk 23:42, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * has been renamed as . While the account is technically indistinguishable from, they could be sharing the same computer and Internet connection. PhilKnight (talk) 22:45, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Technically really. Extremely inconclusive. Only editors whoere were definitely ✅ have stopped editing and there is no more activity on that range. Several editors were froim areas in Asia with such population density, they could be meat, or they could simply be unrelated and unlucky. Some of these editors may (geographically) have been editing themselves in conjunction with other editors (paid, unpaid?) CU evidence is more or less worthless here with accounts on four continents and extremely disparate hardware. It bears stating that the only thing I've concluded is that these editors are all technically exceedingly  to be TimeQueen32. Something strange happened here but  NativeForeigner Talk 23:14, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
 * So they aren't on TimeQueen32's SPI I'm going to do some juggling (playing with delete, restore, move and page histories) and move this to the oldest account (Ali cruse) where it can be archived. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 01:29, 20 April 2014‎ (UTC)