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Two SPAs, whose only edits have been to Draft:Evolve Vacation Rental Network. Eliselmackay created it originally, it was deleted, now Alysiacaringi just recreated it, word-for-word identical the deleted version. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:02, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

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Hi, the information above is actually incorrect. I (alysiacaringi) submitted the article first. It was rejected. We modified it and resubmitted, it was then deleted. Afterward, Elise modified the article again and resubmitted it under her own account. The accounts were not created to deceive, we are both working on this article, and she simply submitted it under her account this time because she was the one focused on the project. The article she submitted is not word-for-word the same article that was deleted. It was modified from the original and included many more citations than the original. We are trying to modify this article to accommodate for the reasons it is not being accepted, but we aren't getting a lot of great feedback on why it's deleted. We've tried to model our article after other companies in our space and ensure that we're not being promotional, just informational. However, it seems that we aren't meeting the standards. We are not trying to publish this article as an advertisement and are happy to make whatever adjustments are necessary to make the article acceptable.Alysiacaringi (talk) 22:33, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, then, if not socks, then certainly two people collaborating to promote their business, which is an undeclared WP:COI and violation of WP:NOTHERE ("Narrow self-interest or promotion of themselves or their business". -- RoySmith (talk) 12:48, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi again, we're really not trying to promote the business, we would just like to have a Wikipedia article about our company. I don't care if it promotes us or not. As long as it's a factual article about the company. We've modeled the article after other company's articles in our space. Here are some examples: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacasa and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TurnKey_Vacation_Rentals. Can you please tell me what in our article is leading you to believe that it's any more promotional than these two? I'm happy to remove that information. I just am having a hard time finding the offensive content. Please advise.Alysiacaringi (talk) 19:40, 2 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Got it, thanks . Does this mean that I can attempt to publish the article again if I disclose that I am paid to edit it? Or that I will basically never get an article approved since I work for the company? I'm happy to modify anything necessary to get it approved. As mentioned, we tried to mimic other articles of companies in our space in order to ensure we weren't being promotional. However, I'm happy to remove whatever's needed to make the article acceptable to everyone. Thanks! Alysiacaringi (talk) 18:49, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
— Berean Hunter   (talk)  23:53, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Same IP, different devices. Meatpuppetry is possible.
 * Yes, we're on the same IP. We work for the same company and are collaborating on this article. We're really not trying to deceive anyone, just collaborating on this article. - Alysiacaringi (talk) 19:43, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
 * As the disruption isn't ongoing and there seems to be an admission of inadvertent MEAT above, I'm closing this without action., if you edit Wikipedia in the future, please read WP:COI, disclose if you are paid to edit/if you have any conflicts of interest, and don't tag team with others in discussions in a way that makes it look like there is more support for a position than there actually is. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:07, 25 November 2018 (UTC)